This is just sharing for interest sake. The result was actually 422 pmol/mL (range <150 pmol/mL) this is a mid-point value between weekly shots of 150 mg/week of TE/week. The trough (morning right before my shot) E2 was 300 pmol/mL and T was 22 pmol/mL and my endo said not to worry about E2, that the body will regulate itself. No wonder I can’t get it up 5/7 days per week. Crazy libido a couple days a week then bam, 24 hours after my shot, it’s gone for a few days.
I do have some Adex I started today, 1mg to start then 0.5mg E3D to start. Get new labs in two weeks and see where I’m at.
I truly believe the heart attacks in the news are a result of high E2 values that have not been dealt with or measured for men who aromatize +++ (higher body fat % etc.)
I believe that I would have had to ask the idiot, if the body will regulate itself then why are you having to take weekly shots? Clearly there is something out of whack, Drs. have been about to drive me crazy lately. Your E2 is jacked up, good luck man.
Hey 604, I’m also in BC and I’m curious if you got an RX for your AI. No one on here from BC let alone Canada can get a script for an AI. If you’re in the Lower Mainland I’d love to know who your doctor is. I’d drive a day to see him/her. lol
[quote]Hook24 wrote:
Hey 604, I’m also in BC and I’m curious if you got an RX for your AI. No one on here from BC let alone Canada can get a script for an AI. If you’re in the Lower Mainland I’d love to know who your doctor is. I’d drive a day to see him/her. lol[/quote]
Not so. I’m in Vancouver and see Marshall Dahl at VGH. He, like everyone else, has read the most recent research and have awareness of the use of anastrazole in men on TRT. They may not get you on it right away though. My endo would only make one change per visit and lab report. Which makes sense because if something goes wrong you can’t know which is the cause. It took me 6 months to get an AI and I’m hoping to add HCG at my next visit in just over a months time. I’m on anastrazole 0.5mg 2x/week.
I truly believe the heart attacks in the news are a result of high E2 values that have not been dealt with or measured for men who aromatize +++ (higher body fat % etc.)[/quote]
Do you have an actual scientific basis for this belief? Something like studies showing men with high E2 levels are more susceptible to heart disease than men with lower ones?
What role do you think high hemoglobin plays, compared to high E2? Given that you know both that:
a. high hemoglobin is strongly associated with heart disease and
b. TRT will increase hemoglobin
Why do you think high E2 is more to blame than this already established causation?
I agree with VTBalla, the increase in heart attack risk is mostly due to an increase in hematocrit levels. The recent news of TRT increasing heart attack is really nothing “new”. Commonsense will tell us that an increase in red blood cell count will make the blood “thicker”, etc., etc., etc.
Take a bay aspirin daily, give blood as often as possible, keep the hematocrit around 46 (much lower and you may get anemic). And talk to your doc about a blood thinner such as Xarelto (not warfarin).
A lot of TRT is two steps forward and one backward. Just because the “one backward” occurs doesn’t mean one has to give up the “two forward”. You just go and eliminate the one backward.
The prophylactic use of ASA is an enteric coated, extended release variety and not just baby aspirin. Just so it’s clear, it won’t make your blood thinner but reversibly prevents coagulation for. A baby aspirin will only cover you for approximately 4 hours. After that your risks climb back up.
Hematocrit <52% is fine. >52% warrants monitoring by your physician and >54% warrants D/C of TRT.
[quote]brazilianguy wrote:
What about your prostate and nipples? Did it make a difference with the high E2 level?[/quote]
Actually to my surprise, my tits are fine and no problems with the prostate that I can tell. Only thing that is ‘off’ is that my hands and feet have been cold - I find myself complaining like women do about being cold. I was thinking it might be something going on thyroid-related but TSH is 1.8 (0.27-4.2 mU/L). The labs don’t run T3, T4 or RT3 here in Canada unless your TSH is off.