Bonez,
Did you get any new info from Brook via PM on your original question that you might want to share?
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Bonez,
Did you get any new info from Brook via PM on your original question that you might want to share?[/quote]
I actually didn’t PM him. I’m probably going to go with .5ml insulin syringes and 29g or 30g .5" needles.
They are going to be for the stasis and taper of an upcoming cycle so the most oil I’d be injecting is .4ml and then considerably less after that. A half inch needle should be fine for most places on my body, especially considering I get leaner while on cycle.
Brook is a loser anyway… what does he knoww haha
[quote]W.H.B. wrote:
juice82 wrote:
W.H.B. wrote:
Wow! I don’t use anything larger than a 25 Gauge for anything. No, I do not heat my oil for any injections.
It is much easier to push through a 27 Gauge with a 1 mL barrel, but I have successfully used a 3 mL barrel with the 27 Gauge many times. Sure, it may take a little longer and warm oil will help, but I don’t find it necessary.
I just got some 26 gauge and did an injection with my biceps and it is so much better than 23 gauge…wish I had of started using them earlier lol!
Bill and BBB I am an engineer and I never thought I would see fluid mechanics being applied to injections haha…I like this!
I am surprised you guys haven’t brought up frictional force (in this case kinetic friction) yet 
Yeah, I draw with a 23 Gauge. One of the few cases where smaller is better. Ha!
You know, I’m not sure you are 100% accurate Bill. If you were only speaking of the needle, I believe you would be right. We are, however, talking about a complete system. This system involves two pipes of different diameters and lengths, where the second pipe, the needle, represents only a fraction of the total length of the system./[/quote]
Try seeing how easy it is to push the oil out at the same speed without any needle, and you will see that the needle is far and away the predominant factor.
If your point is that the figure may not be 2x the force but rather 1.99 times the force or something like that, yes that would be true.
As for change in diameter, at the speed the oil is moving I don’t think turbulent flow resulting from sudden change in diameter is a factor.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Bonez,
Did you get any new info from Brook via PM on your original question that you might want to share?
I actually didn’t PM him. I’m probably going to go with .5ml insulin syringes and 29g or 30g .5" needles.
They are going to be for the stasis and taper of an upcoming cycle so the most oil I’d be injecting is .4ml and then considerably less after that. A half inch needle should be fine for most places on my body, especially considering I get leaner while on cycle.
Brook is a loser anyway… what does he knoww haha [/quote]
I’m in my stasis and using prop so injecting every day. Fluid volume is very low (.14ml) per injection and as such I just switch from one quad to the other each day. I may move a little bit up or down on the quad, but I don’t believe, when injecting such small amounts of fluid with such a small gauge needle, that your typical on-cycle site rotation is necessary.
If you really wanted to use another site, though, biceps also work fine for me with this small volume (don’t like to use them for larger volumes, though).
On a side note, I also injected lats the other day with IGF-1 using an insulin syringe (.5"29G). That was weird, but no problem at all.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
Bonez,
Did you get any new info from Brook via PM on your original question that you might want to share?
I actually didn’t PM him. I’m probably going to go with .5ml insulin syringes and 29g or 30g .5" needles.
They are going to be for the stasis and taper of an upcoming cycle so the most oil I’d be injecting is .4ml and then considerably less after that. A half inch needle should be fine for most places on my body, especially considering I get leaner while on cycle.
Brook is a loser anyway… what does he knoww haha
I’m in my stasis and using prop so injecting every day. Fluid volume is very low (.14ml) per injection and as such I just switch from one quad to the other each day. I may move a little bit up or down on the quad, but I don’t believe, when injecting such small amounts of fluid with such a small gauge needle, that your typical on-cycle site rotation is necessary.
If you really wanted to use another site, though, biceps also work fine for me with this small volume (don’t like to use them for larger volumes, though).
On a side note, I also injected lats the other day with IGF-1 using an insulin syringe (.5"29G). That was weird, but no problem at all.
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Yea I was messing with some numbers before and realized how small the actual injection volumes are going to be. I will be using enanthate so it’s going to get tough to split 40mg and 20mg up biweekly towards the end. I will most likely use a SERM at some point too.
You are looking at 4/100ths of a ml test e 2x/w in your last week of taper (20mg/w or 10mg 2x/w - 250mg/ml). That is 4 little itty bitty lines on a 50cc slin pin. It was almost as bad for me using prop to get a little less than 6/100ths of a ml EOD for my 20mg/w final week of taper.
If it’s any consolation, BBB loads a slin pin with multiple days of oil and re-uses it in the quad with no ill effects.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
You are looking at 4/100ths of a ml test e 2x/w in your last week of taper (20mg/w or 10mg 2x/w - 250mg/ml). That is 4 little itty bitty lines on a 50cc slin pin. It was almost as bad for me using prop to get a little less than 6/100ths of a ml EOD for my 20mg/w final week of taper.
If it’s any consolation, BBB loads a slin pin with multiple days of oil and re-uses it in the quad with no ill effects.[/quote]
I have a few months to iron out the details so I’ll think about it then. I’ll probably mess around with some kitchen oil just to get some experience with measuring such small amounts.
It’s really no problem with a 50cc slin pin. Piece of cake…
Good to know.
Question: For example the last few weeks of the taper would it be plasuable for one to crack open an amp and put it into a sterial vial and mix in some sterile injection water or BAC water into it at a chosen ratio and then it would be easier measure the volume. Would the oil and water mix evenly? Has anyone here tried it?
[quote]G.I. Joe Galway wrote:
Question: For example the last few weeks of the taper would it be plasuable for one to crack open an amp and put it into a sterial vial and mix in some sterile injection water or BAC water into it at a chosen ratio and then it would be easier measure the volume. Would the oil and water mix evenly? Has anyone here tried it?[/quote]
Oil and water won’t mix at all, let alone evenly. You could filter in some oil if you wanted to. I think that would be complicating things too much though.
Yes (to BONEZ’ post).
It’s really not a big deal to work with these small fluid volumes when you’re using an insulin pin. Seriously.