Drunk Jew Hatin' Mel

Mel was trying to kill himself?

And this, from the Drudgereport

MEL SAYS SORRY TO THE JEWS
Tue Aug 01 2006 11:10:45 ET

August 2, 2006 – There is no excuse, nor should there be any tolerance, for anyone who thinks or expresses any kind of Anti-Semitic remark. I want to apologize specifically to everyone in the Jewish community for the vitriolic and harmful words that I said to a law enforcement officer the night I was arrested on a DUI charge.

I am a public person, and when I say something, either articulated and thought out, or blurted out in a moment of insanity, my words carry weight in the public arena. As a result, I must assume personal responsibility for my words and apologize directly to those who have been hurt and offended by those words.

The tenets of what I profess to believe necessitate that I exercise charity and tolerance as a way of life. Every human being is God?s child, and if I wish to honor my God I have to honor his children. But please know from my heart that I am not an anti-Semite. I am not a bigot. Hatred of any kind goes against my faith.

I?m not just asking for forgiveness. I would like to take it one step further, and meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can have a one on one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing.

I have begun an ongoing program of recovery and what I am now realizing is that I cannot do it alone. I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words came from during that drunken display, and I am asking the Jewish community, whom I have personally offended, to help me on my journey through recovery. Again, I am reaching out to the Jewish community for its help. I know there will be many in that community who will want nothing to do with me, and that would be understandable. But I pray that that door is not forever closed.

This is not about a film. Nor is it about artistic license. This is about real life and recognizing the consequences hurtful words can have. It?s about existing in harmony in a world that seems to have gone mad.


Kudos to the man for not backing away from what he said. But he’s claimed not to be an anti-semite before, while refusing to distance himself from his father. So, I’ll be interested in seeing if he mans up and distances himself from holocaust-denying pops.

[quote]MisterAmazing wrote:
Lovely piece of news here. The satisfying part, at least for myself, was that Mel didn’t get off from the DWI just because he’s a celebrity, which is usually the case more often than not due to our joke of a legal system and societal values.

As far as his anti-Semetic remarks, well that’s going to suck for him as far as publicity goes. Now we can just sit back and watch the media drastically blow it out of proportion…how long until they photoshop Mel’s head onto Adolf’s fully uniformed body?[/quote]

You had to go and give them the idea!
I think the story is sad on so many fronts. I think its great that all the perfect people here can call him out on his bad behavior. I?m sure not one of you guys let the booze do the talking when you were trying so hard to bed some not-so-attractive chick that you just met in a bar. Even if you did, that don?t mean nothing. Hell, you aren?t always like that. Screw some self righteous ass monkey if they thinking that?s the real you.

(Look below for the no sarcasm response)

This is one of the dangers of proclaiming your faith. People are just drooling over any opportunity to point out your failures. This is something that I don?t understand. Why do some people relish in someone else?s failure? Even if its someone that I don?t really care for I don?t want to see them fail. I?m not taking about someone doing evil.

The question was rhetorical.

Me Solomon Grundy

The cool thing is that the deputy Mel accused of looking Jewish actually was Jewish!

Great heeb-dar, Mel!

And…has anyone else been calling everyone ‘Sugartits’ for two days? I know I have

[quote]Solomon Grundy wrote:
MisterAmazing wrote:
Lovely piece of news here. The satisfying part, at least for myself, was that Mel didn’t get off from the DWI just because he’s a celebrity, which is usually the case more often than not due to our joke of a legal system and societal values.

As far as his anti-Semetic remarks, well that’s going to suck for him as far as publicity goes. Now we can just sit back and watch the media drastically blow it out of proportion…how long until they photoshop Mel’s head onto Adolf’s fully uniformed body?

You had to go and give them the idea!
I think the story is sad on so many fronts. I think its great that all the perfect people here can call him out on his bad behavior. I?m sure not one of you guys let the booze do the talking when you were trying so hard to bed some not-so-attractive chick that you just met in a bar. Even if you did, that don?t mean nothing. Hell, you aren?t always like that. Screw some self righteous ass monkey if they thinking that?s the real you.

(Look below for the no sarcasm response)

This is one of the dangers of proclaiming your faith. People are just drooling over any opportunity to point out your failures. This is something that I don?t understand. Why do some people relish in someone else?s failure? Even if its someone that I don?t really care for I don?t want to see them fail. I?m not taking about someone doing evil.

The question was rhetorical.

Me Solomon Grundy

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Anti-semitic ranting is not the same as boning a fat chick.

The phrase ‘In Vino Veritas’ hasn’t been around for thousands of years because it isn’t true.

[quote]harris447 wrote:

Anti-semitic ranting is not the same as boning a fat chick.

The phrase ‘In Vino Veritas’ hasn’t been around for thousands of years because it isn’t true.
[/quote]

Again my knees have cut from under me by your amazing intellect. I never said that ?anti-Semitic ranting? is the same as boning a fat chick. I can?t think of anything that is same. Anyway, enough about fat chicks. The first part of the ?not-so-attractive chick? statement, you added the fat chick part, was that the booze was doing the talking. In other words you said things that you didn?t really mean. I?m sure that if you don?t like that illustration you can come up with your own, unless of course you have never been drunk. In the second phrase, do my eyes deceive me, or are you proving my point? If you are proving my point then I would have to agree with you.

Your response however, is undeniable proof that sarcasm does not carry well in forums. My point is that a run-in with the law, regardless of the rant, is probably not a fair representation of how Mr. Gibson behaves/thinks/feels on a daily basis.

[quote]Solomon Grundy wrote:
harris447 wrote:

Anti-semitic ranting is not the same as boning a fat chick.

The phrase ‘In Vino Veritas’ hasn’t been around for thousands of years because it isn’t true.

Again my knees have cut from under me by your amazing intellect. I never said that ?anti-Semitic ranting? is the same as boning a fat chick. I can?t think of anything that is same. Anyway, enough about fat chicks. The first part of the ?not-so-attractive chick? statement, you added the fat chick part, was that the booze was doing the talking. In other words you said things that you didn?t really mean. I?m sure that if you don?t like that illustration you can come up with your own, unless of course you have never been drunk. In the second phrase, do my eyes deceive me, or are you proving my point? If you are proving my point then I would have to agree with you.

Your response however, is undeniable proof that sarcasm does not carry well in forums. My point is that a run-in with the law, regardless of the rant, is probably not a fair representation of how Mr. Gibson behaves/thinks/feels on a daily basis. [/quote]

Christ, you’re a shithead.

The phrase “In Vin Veritas” means, “In wine, truth.”

I don’t know anyone who gets drunk and starts talking shit about Jews except anti-semites.

The “booze was doing the talking” is an excuse people use after they have said something drunk that they didn’t have the balls to say while they were sober.

“Mr.” Gibson has–repeatedly–declined to even slightly repudiate the nasty Holocaust denials of his father.

He has made anti-gay comments.

And, of course, he made a darling little snuff flim containing some vicious little anti-Jew bullshit.

He deserves everything he gets.

[quote]knewsom wrote:
Dustin wrote:
I’m curious as to how the subject of Jews even came up? I haven’t seen the reports or anything, but I know when I get pulled over for drunk driving I immediately start talking about Jews.

The worthless media has been having a field-day with this story. While they do mention that Gibson was drunk out of his mind, they keep harping on the Jew comments.

Dustin

Yep, good 'ole Mel is makin me plenty of $$ over this one… heh heh. COME ON! KEEP MAKING NEWS! I WILL ONLY GROW STRONGER!!! AAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

seriously though, .12% isn’t drunk out of your mind, but I can see him losing it a bit if it were in combination with oxycodone or something, but still. Such a dissapointment. I wonder how long this will delay the relase of his new film…?[/quote]

.12 is a sturdy buzz, not seriously drunk. Oxycodone and alcohol would have chilled him out.

Another thing to consider when thinking about how “drunk” he was, is that he’s been on the wagon for YEARS. If you haven’t had ANY alcohol for a long time, even a small ammount can get you pretty trashed.

[quote]knewsom wrote:
Another thing to consider when thinking about how “drunk” he was, is that he’s been on the wagon for YEARS. If you haven’t had ANY alcohol for a long time, even a small ammount can get you pretty trashed.[/quote]

That’s the thing I was most confused about. I didn’t know until all of this news came out that he was a recovering alcoholic. What in the world caused him to relapse all of the sudden?

This whole thing is so sad to me, not just this incident but the decline of Gibson over the years. Another case of some famous person slowly losing their mind. I just don’t want to see guys like Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson for who they’re proving themselves to really be. I wish I could just remember them as the guys who made movies that I loved…

It’s kind of like Bob (or Tom, I can’t remember which one) said one time (paraphrase): “I’ve never wanted to meet anybody famous that I really admire because I’m afraid I’ll find out I don’t actually like them.”

[quote]Solomon Grundy wrote:

Your response however, is undeniable proof that sarcasm does not carry well in forums. My point is that a run-in with the law, regardless of the rant, is probably not a fair representation of how Mr. Gibson behaves/thinks/feels on a daily basis. [/quote]

Oh I don’t know…drunk and ranting about God and evil Jews…sounds like Rush Limbaugh a bit too.

I don’t think that you have any right to claim what he does or doesn’t think on a daily basis.

You get drunk, drive around, and then get racist when you get pulled over…I’d say that’s indicitive of some problems that isn’t just the whiskey talkin.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Solomon Grundy wrote:

Your response however, is undeniable proof that sarcasm does not carry well in forums. My point is that a run-in with the law, regardless of the rant, is probably not a fair representation of how Mr. Gibson behaves/thinks/feels on a daily basis.

Oh I don’t know…drunk and ranting about God and evil Jews…sounds like Rush Limbaugh a bit too.

I don’t think that you have any right to claim what he does or doesn’t think on a daily basis.

You get drunk, drive around, and then get racist when you get pulled over…I’d say that’s indicitive of some problems that isn’t just the whiskey talkin.[/quote]

I agree. I personally don’t believe in “oh, I said that but didn’t mean it and it was the alcohol talking”. If anything, alcohol releases inhibitions. That means what you say and do when drunk is probably a good sign of what you would say and do if you didn’t have a social filter on when sober. If you drink two beers and suddenly scream that you hate black people, it’s the beers talking? Yeah, ok.

[quote]harris447 wrote:
Solomon Grundy wrote:
harris447 wrote:

Anti-semitic ranting is not the same as boning a fat chick.

The phrase ‘In Vino Veritas’ hasn’t been around for thousands of years because it isn’t true.

Again my knees have cut from under me by your amazing intellect. I never said that ?anti-Semitic ranting? is the same as boning a fat chick. I can?t think of anything that is same. Anyway, enough about fat chicks. The first part of the ?not-so-attractive chick? statement, you added the fat chick part, was that the booze was doing the talking. In other words you said things that you didn?t really mean. I?m sure that if you don?t like that illustration you can come up with your own, unless of course you have never been drunk. In the second phrase, do my eyes deceive me, or are you proving my point? If you are proving my point then I would have to agree with you.

Your response however, is undeniable proof that sarcasm does not carry well in forums. My point is that a run-in with the law, regardless of the rant, is probably not a fair representation of how Mr. Gibson behaves/thinks/feels on a daily basis.

Christ, you’re a shithead.

The phrase “In Vin Veritas” means, “In wine, truth.”

I don’t know anyone who gets drunk and starts talking shit about Jews except anti-semites.

The “booze was doing the talking” is an excuse people use after they have said something drunk that they didn’t have the balls to say while they were sober.

“Mr.” Gibson has–repeatedly–declined to even slightly repudiate the nasty Holocaust denials of his father.

He has made anti-gay comments.

And, of course, he made a darling little snuff flim containing some vicious little anti-Jew bullshit.

He deserves everything he gets.[/quote]

“The phrase ‘In Vino Veritas’ hasn’t been around for thousands of years because it isn’t true.” This was what you said right? I was taking that to mean that you believe that you don’t believe that the phrase is true. How does what I said make me a shithead? Because I think its wrong for you jokers to sit on some forum and attack someone who is down?

Or is it because I chose for once to respond out of character and more like some people that I continue to oppose here? I find it telling that my retort was not directed at any one individual and yet it got to you for some reason. I want you to explain this to me. Are you happy that he is getting hammered because he claims to be a ?devout Catholic? (made that movie and all that other stuff) and got caught driving drunk? Or was it because of his bigoted comments?

Anti-Semitism is really just bigotry. Can a statement about Jews be any worse than a statement against another group? To answer a few other statements you made: Why should he have to give an answer for his father?s comments? He isn?t his father. If the snuff film that you are referring to is The Passion of the Christ, then according to the stories that I?ve read the Jews did kill Jesus. Does that make me ?anti-Semitic? What does he really deserve? Do you qualify as judge? I know that I screw up far too often to condemn him for mistakes that he has made.

Keep in mind that I am not defending his actions in any way. I?m sure that he will have to pay for his mistake. As for his statements, I know there are some things that I think of frequently that should never be shared. It is probably the same for him. To me he is just a man who made some seriously bad judgment calls and has a drinking problem. The fact that he is a professing Christian makes it worse. I still wouldn?t say that I hope he gets what he deserves. I hope that I don?t get what I deserve.

In vino veritas

(in VEE-noh VER-ee-tahs) A Latin phrase suggesting that people are more likely to say what they really feel under the influence of alcohol. It means, ?There is truth in wine.?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Solomon Grundy wrote:

Your response however, is undeniable proof that sarcasm does not carry well in forums. My point is that a run-in with the law, regardless of the rant, is probably not a fair representation of how Mr. Gibson behaves/thinks/feels on a daily basis.

Oh I don’t know…drunk and ranting about God and evil Jews…sounds like Rush Limbaugh a bit too.

I don’t think that you have any right to claim what he does or doesn’t think on a daily basis.

You get drunk, drive around, and then get racist when you get pulled over…I’d say that’s indicitive of some problems that isn’t just the whiskey talkin.

I agree. I personally don’t believe in “oh, I said that but didn’t mean it and it was the alcohol talking”. If anything, alcohol releases inhibitions. That means what you say and do when drunk is probably a good sign of what you would say and do if you didn’t have a social filter on when sober. If you drink two beers and suddenly scream that you hate black people, it’s the beers talking? Yeah, ok.[/quote]

Touch??-

I know from my perspective tough, that if I were to drink heavily ( I have a really bad temper) that I could fly off the handle and say things or do things that I normally wouldn?t say or do. Maybe I?m wrong, but I think that most of us have some little dark corner of our soul that is just waiting to escape.

[quote]Solomon Grundy wrote:
Touch??-

I know from my perspective tough, that if I were to drink heavily ( I have a really bad temper) that I could fly off the handle and say things or do things that I normally wouldn?t say or do. Maybe I?m wrong, but I think that most of us have some little dark corner of our soul that is just waiting to escape.

[/quote]

It’s still you. If you get drunk and beat your wife, don’t act as if it was JUST the Tequila. If get drunk and kill some guy who happens to be a homosexual, don’t blame Heineken. It was in you. You were just holding it back before.

[quote]CC wrote:
It’s kind of like Bob (or Tom, I can’t remember which one) said one time (paraphrase): “I’ve never wanted to meet anybody famous that I really admire because I’m afraid I’ll find out I don’t actually like them.”
[/quote]

Springsteen said something like that about Elvis. He’d tried to climb the gate at Graceland, only to be turned back by the guards. Later he said how glad he was he didn’t make it to the house, so he could keep the idol/fantasy he had in his head instead of meeting the real fried-peanut-butter eaten fat man.

Word on the street is that Gibson’s next movie will be a portrayal of Henry Ford. As we know, Ford financed Hitler and Der Fuhrer worshipped ‘Heinrich’ Ford. Gibson, out of his own pocket, will restart the Dearborn Independent.

http://www.adl.org/special_reports/ij/dearborn_independant.asp

HH

I went on an anti-semitic rampage once after taking 4-ad.

[quote]Solomon Grundy wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Solomon Grundy wrote:
harris447 wrote:

Anti-semitic ranting is not the same as boning a fat chick.

The phrase ‘In Vino Veritas’ hasn’t been around for thousands of years because it isn’t true.

Again my knees have cut from under me by your amazing intellect. I never said that ?anti-Semitic ranting? is the same as boning a fat chick. I can?t think of anything that is same. Anyway, enough about fat chicks. The first part of the ?not-so-attractive chick? statement, you added the fat chick part, was that the booze was doing the talking. In other words you said things that you didn?t really mean. I?m sure that if you don?t like that illustration you can come up with your own, unless of course you have never been drunk. In the second phrase, do my eyes deceive me, or are you proving my point? If you are proving my point then I would have to agree with you.

Your response however, is undeniable proof that sarcasm does not carry well in forums. My point is that a run-in with the law, regardless of the rant, is probably not a fair representation of how Mr. Gibson behaves/thinks/feels on a daily basis.

Christ, you’re a shithead.

The phrase “In Vin Veritas” means, “In wine, truth.”

I don’t know anyone who gets drunk and starts talking shit about Jews except anti-semites.

The “booze was doing the talking” is an excuse people use after they have said something drunk that they didn’t have the balls to say while they were sober.

“Mr.” Gibson has–repeatedly–declined to even slightly repudiate the nasty Holocaust denials of his father.

He has made anti-gay comments.

And, of course, he made a darling little snuff flim containing some vicious little anti-Jew bullshit.

He deserves everything he gets.

“The phrase ‘In Vino Veritas’ hasn’t been around for thousands of years because it isn’t true.” This was what you said right? I was taking that to mean that you believe that you don’t believe that the phrase is true. How does what I said make me a shithead? Because I think its wrong for you jokers to sit on some forum and attack someone who is down?

Or is it because I chose for once to respond out of character and more like some people that I continue to oppose here? I find it telling that my retort was not directed at any one individual and yet it got to you for some reason. I want you to explain this to me. Are you happy that he is getting hammered because he claims to be a ?devout Catholic? (made that movie and all that other stuff) and got caught driving drunk? Or was it because of his bigoted comments?

Anti-Semitism is really just bigotry. Can a statement about Jews be any worse than a statement against another group? To answer a few other statements you made: Why should he have to give an answer for his father?s comments? He isn?t his father. If the snuff film that you are referring to is The Passion of the Christ, then according to the stories that I?ve read the Jews did kill Jesus. Does that make me ?anti-Semitic? What does he really deserve? Do you qualify as judge? I know that I screw up far too often to condemn him for mistakes that he has made.

Keep in mind that I am not defending his actions in any way. I?m sure that he will have to pay for his mistake. As for his statements, I know there are some things that I think of frequently that should never be shared. It is probably the same for him. To me he is just a man who made some seriously bad judgment calls and has a drinking problem. The fact that he is a professing Christian makes it worse. I still wouldn?t say that I hope he gets what he deserves. I hope that I don?t get what I deserve.

In vino veritas

(in VEE-noh VER-ee-tahs) A Latin phrase suggesting that people are more likely to say what they really feel under the influence of alcohol. It means, ?There is truth in wine.?

[/quote]

I truly wish you were a smarter man.

The perhaps you can see that people aren’t attacking him because he’s a christian.

It’s because he’s an anti-semitic, bigoted asshole who is getting what he deserves.

Why should he answer for his father? Because his father DENIED THE FUCKING HOLOCAUST EXISTED. And then Mel, when asked, said, “My father has never lied to me.” Instead of saying, “I love my dad, but I don’t agree with him.”

No, Mel chose to give the ol’ hateful fuck the nod and a wink.

And the most pathetic thing about your statements is that you seem to A: think people have been trying to get him simply because he’s a christian; and, B: thet fact that he’s a christain is the only reason you have any sympathy for him.

Somehow, I don’t think you have much of a problem with Mel’s statements, do ya?

You Solomon Shithead

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Solomon Grundy wrote:
Touch??-

I know from my perspective tough, that if I were to drink heavily ( I have a really bad temper) that I could fly off the handle and say things or do things that I normally wouldn?t say or do. Maybe I?m wrong, but I think that most of us have some little dark corner of our soul that is just waiting to escape.

It’s still you. If you get drunk and beat your wife, don’t act as if it was JUST the Tequila. If get drunk and kill some guy who happens to be a homosexual, don’t blame Heineken. It was in you. You were just holding it back before.[/quote]

Drunken tongues speak sober minds. I have a lot of experience being drunk and around drunks…when you’re drunk, you ain’t smart enough to lie, and you don’t care about the consequences.

I hate that Gibson is going nuts like Cruise did. God damn, can’t you guys just make cool movies and leave the philosophy to the smart people?

Gibson’s career will be hurt by this, which is a shame because he makes such excellent movies.

Hilarious that people are getting pissed off at Gibson and they will never have any contact with him in their life.

I don’t care one bit that he made anti-semitic remarks. In fact, in the context of his tirade, I think it’s pretty funny. I mean, did the cop say “Hey, Mr. Gibson, what do you thnk about Jews?” How the hell was that topic even brought up? I’m more concerned that he was under the influence and endangering others by driving.

I also don’t care what Gibson’s dad said. Why the media even felt that his father’s political views were pertinent to anything at all is beyond me.

Gibson has apologized twice now. People need get a life and worry about themselves.

Dustin