[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I’d be all over these. Think of all the extra time we’d have for activities now that we didn’t have to drive. [/quote]
Are you referring to fapping.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I’d be all over these. Think of all the extra time we’d have for activities now that we didn’t have to drive. [/quote]
Are you referring to fapping.[/quote]
Fuck fapping. You could just get right down to it and bang multiple hookers in your car while the fucking thing drives itself!
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I’d be all over these. Think of all the extra time we’d have for activities now that we didn’t have to drive. [/quote]
Are you referring to fapping.[/quote]
Fuck fapping. You could just get right down to it and bang multiple hookers in your car while the fucking thing drives itself![/quote]
Dude, to hell with that. I’d be practicing karate in the car.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Here is some advanced technology I can get behind
So what happens when you flip off the driver next to you? Does their car blow up? That would way cool.
haha. Yeah just program it to someone’s driverless car and go to town.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
One good Hacker could kill millions[/quote]
They’ve been saying that kind of shit in regards to our electrical grids, nuclear power plants, satellites, trains, the stock market (billions of dollars lost instead of millions of lives, of course) and so forth and it’s never happened. Sure, there’s always going to be people playing on this country’s amazingly large capacity to be afraid, but the reality is that something like what you’re describing will most likely never, ever occur.[/quote]
haha, just because it has’t doesn’t mean it wont.
And actually, it has happened, many times. You just dont hear about it but because safeguards are in place the likelihood is lowered, not removed.
The world has become more violent and more complex. Terrorists and organised crime are always looking for ways to manipulate things to their advantage, then you have the likes of China and Iran.
Say for example you were to attack Iran or impose on Chinese interests because of S.Korea and Japan.
You think they wouldn’t do their best to damage the infrastructure of their enemy? Its basically carpet bombing WW2 style except in a technological sense and it causes just as much damage.
Its a “what if” scenario but when you hurt somebody enough, I guarantee you they will do their best to ruin your country.[/quote]
Iran will never have the wherewithal to pull something like that off. They can’t even keep their own shit from being hacked. How are they going to hack into ours?
And China would never sabotage us like that. If they even thought about it we would already have had something go drastically wrong in our relations with them to provoke such thinking. Our economy is too tied to theirs now for them to plunge us into something like what hacking into driverless cars and killing millions would do. They’d effectively be sabotaging their own economy by doing so.
Besides, the Chinese economy is already going into the shitter without our help. They’d be much more likely to hack into the computer systems of the car manufacturers that are producing driverless technology so that they can create the same stuff over there without having to buy it from us. [/quote]
I did not mean Iran when mentioning hacking, they’re pretty good at playing insurgents against the US and last time I checked, they have quite a lot of lethal weaponry which can be used against large populations, mainly cities.
China would NEVER sabotage you like that?
Read up on history, they have a long, long history of backstabbing and two-faced political happenings which would make todays politicians seem like angels.
They’re only with the west because it is beneficial for them at this moment in time, as soon as that use is over, what then? The USA is already on the receiving end of military manoeuvrings, sabre rattling and hacking on the Pentagon, possibly even NORAD but they’ll never say how much is going on.
China has had wealth since ages gone by, they have the mentality to get on by no matter what. Remember they’re a country whose government killed a lot of people in plain view and wiped it from the face of history with regards to its citizens, so much so that a lot of natives actually believe it.
To say China will need the USA in the long term is asking for trouble. Co-dependency is the last thing they want, they’re not extroverts like regular capitalists.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
The world has become more violent and more complex.[/quote]
in comparison to when?
please expand on your point.
the world has not become more violent.
it is strange so many people make these huge sweeping statements based on completely false fears.
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False fears?
I know you’re a shitty troll but I’ll throw some more bait in your eyes just so it tickles.
Compared to history, its round about the same. However if you think the following;
- Conflict in Middle East
- America/western powers invading ME countries
- Irans nuclear problems
- Israel and USA pressure on IRan
- China flexing its muscle outwards on Japan, S.korea
- Russia having done all sorts over the past decade (read up on it)
- Mexico cartels, the drug war as a global problem
- Africa and its endless conflicts
- More extreme weather in populated areas
- Syria
Are not grounds for an ever more dangerous world, you’ve got your head firmly in the sand.
- Terrorism
Yeah lets speak terrorism.
What point in history has terrorism been able to cripple the west through fear? Never.
It was always the big bad red army, whilst Russia is a threat, I doubt they’d be as hell bent on destroying the west as Islamic terrorists are.
They’ve sprung into all parts of the world because they were hit in Afghanistan, new countries were needed out of the way of AMerica and in doing so, those areas were made violent and dangerous beyond the normal pretense of “kidnap threats”.
Islamic footholds in Egypt have taken quite a turn haven’t they? A so-called western allied country with US military hardware. My or my, you dont call THAT dangerous?
I asked my parents who are in theirmid 60s about these fears. They lived through the cold war, yes they had fears but those fears didnt last this long.
Since the late 90s the wars and conflicts, death and destruction has continued. I am not a believer of government scare tactics, I’m not that stupid but I believe my own eyes and what I read from people who are in the shit, they dont spare the details.
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You are so far off-base with your assertions about danger. How many people have terrorists killed worldwide? Does it even begin to approach the millions killed by people like Stalin or HItler or Mao? Of course not.
The violence that we face today is nothing compared to what previous generations faced. Our life expectancy is much longer due in large part to the fact that most men don’t go to war, which wasn’t always the case. At one point in history, literally every able-bodied man in the known world was likely to have been in some sort of armed conflict. In some areas, that wasn’t even very long ago.
The biggest war going on right now is the Afghanistan War, which has killed less in more than ten years than WWII by a long shot. Most of the major armed conflicts in history are behind us. They aren’t going on right now and the likelihood is that they won’t happen in the future. Are they possible? Sure. Probable? That depends on how paranoid you are, I suppose.
But take a look at death tolls in warfare. The only major armed conflicts that have significant death tolls in very recent history are the Sudanese and Congolese Second Civil Wars and the Afghanistan Civil War, of which the U.S.'s involvement over there is an extension. The death tolls in those three COMBINED doesn’t even come close to WWII.
The same thing applies to genocide. The worst ones are all in the past and the ones going on now or in the very recent past pale in comparison. The fact is that with the globalization that has occurred with the information revolution, other countries know about these sorts of atrocities much sooner and in much more detail than ever before. Pressure is put on the genocide-inflicted countries or direct involvement occurs much sooner and the shit doesn’t get nearly as bad.
Worldwide violent crime rates are far below where they have ever been. They have been trending downward for centuries now. In the U.S., violent crime is generally down over the last several decades. Where do we get our entertainment from? Do we show en masse to a stadium to watch people get eviscerated by lions or by other people? No. Do we settle disputes by duel anymore? No.
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Knew this would happen.
Thats not in our time frame is it?
My parents were young children in the WW2 era. Neither is the ROman empire or Ghengis Khan applicable here because it is ancient history.
Genocide is in the past? Tamil Tigers would have a word with you. Many African villages and tribes would have words with you.
But guess what? You dont hear about that stuff because you never saw it on the news. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
In fact, if you were to do some deep research into tribal and religious problems, you’d realise that the past 15 years has seen an increase in violence throughout the globe in the name of religion and tribes, not just in the ME and not just by Islam.
Then you go and say world wide crime rates are down.
Where do you get this from? The drugs war alone has claimed so many, then you have the ever increasing murder-suicides.
Dont even try to tell me murder-suicides aren’t new, I know they’re not but they have increased in number for sure. Especially in the UK.
I’d just like to highlight something here, something which many people dont realise and its to do with the military interventions.
Mass military intervention would have happened in more places like Iraq and Afghanistan if the current climate existed two or more decades ago. Ever since Vietnam the USA has not had the stomach for such a campaign into another country.
I’m not paranoid, I just dont like the fact that the ME, Asia and Africa has become more violent towards westerners due to Islamic growth.
harrypotter you are simply posting alot of paranoid wishy washy nonsense with very little to back it up.
no one can or is trying to make out we live in a Utopia, but all your points are essentially baseless.
i wont go through it all but referencing stuff like tribal violence in Africa to illustrate the world is MORE violent is ridiculous these problems have been around since time immemorial.
WW2 is hardly ancient history now is it if it occurred less than a century ago and humans have been around for thousands of years. WW2 was very recent when discussing human history as a whole.
no way is the world more violent or becoming violent in comparison to ANY other period in humanity but if you want to go stock up on bottled water and ammo that’s up to you others will just continue to live like non paranoid nut jobs.
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I’m not paranoid, I just dont like the fact that the ME, Asia and Africa has become more violent towards westerners due to Islamic growth.
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I actually agree with this. Christians that live in ME, Asia, and Africa are being killed on the tune of 100,000 a year just because of their faith. I thought it was more like a 1,000,000, but Fox News reported 100,000 so I will go with that. Look at the the Christian Pastor Saeed Abedini. He has not been killed but he has been imprisoned for his faith.
No one really reports on this stuff because the governments keep the press silent. Only the family members that get out alive are the ones that talk about it, but then no one believes and individual over the governments of the world.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
I’m not paranoid, I just dont like the fact that the ME, Asia and Africa has become more violent towards westerners due to Islamic growth.
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I actually agree with this. Christians that live in ME, Asia, and Africa are being killed on the tune of 100,000 a year just because of their faith. I thought it was more like a 1,000,000, but Fox News reported 100,000 so I will go with that. Look at the the Christian Pastor Saeed Abedini. He has not been killed but he has been imprisoned for his faith.
No one really reports on this stuff because the governments keep the press silent. Only the family members that get out alive are the ones that talk about it, but then no one believes and individual over the governments of the world.[/quote]
but is this a sign of MORE violence than in the past?
these examples you are bringing up have always been around.
Christians have always been at risk in these places, same as other religions in other locations.
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
Christians have always been at risk in these places, same as other religions in other locations.
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Always? Christians are killed more than any other religion just for their beliefs. Where in the world are people killed for their religion other than in Islamist and Communist/Socialist countries?
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
Christians have always been at risk in these places, same as other religions in other locations.
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Always? Christians are killed more than any other religion just for their beliefs. Where in the world are people killed for their religion other than in Islamist and Communist/Socialist countries?[/quote]
how about the Jews during ww2?
the premise of this argument is harrypotter has said the world is more violent THAN EVER BEFORE. at no point in history have humans NOT been killing each other due to religious beliefs.
regarding your second question, Christians have always been getting killed in these regions, it’s a fact we cannot really argue about it it’s just the truth.
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
Christians have always been at risk in these places, same as other religions in other locations.
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Always? Christians are killed more than any other religion just for their beliefs. Where in the world are people killed for their religion other than in Islamist and Communist/Socialist countries?[/quote]
how about the Jews during ww2?
the premise of this argument is harrypotter has said the world is more violent THAN EVER BEFORE. at no point in history have humans NOT been killing each other due to religious beliefs.
regarding your second question, Christians have always been getting killed in these regions, it’s a fact we cannot really argue about it it’s just the truth.
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Maybe I should have stated my question a little differently. Where has a religious group killed another religious group just because of their religious affiliation?
The Nazis were not a religious group and a million Christians were killed along side the Jews in concentration camps. They hid their Jewish friends from the Nazis. When the Nazis found the Jews in their house both the Jews and the Christians were sent to the camps.
Depending on how you define violence. With there being over 6 billion humans there is going to be more violence because there will be more and more people killed just because of the huge numbers. If we are looking at violence as a percentage, then I really do not know. There is always going to be violence, but it might just seem more prevalant because we see it on TV, Internet, and hear it on the radio.
Here is an excellent video with a ton of data to back up the claim that the world is the safest it has ever been at any point in history.
If you don’t have much time skip to the 13 minute mark.
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
Christians have always been at risk in these places, same as other religions in other locations.
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Always? Christians are killed more than any other religion just for their beliefs. Where in the world are people killed for their religion other than in Islamist and Communist/Socialist countries?[/quote]
how about the Jews during ww2?
the premise of this argument is harrypotter has said the world is more violent THAN EVER BEFORE. at no point in history have humans NOT been killing each other due to religious beliefs.
regarding your second question, Christians have always been getting killed in these regions, it’s a fact we cannot really argue about it it’s just the truth.
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Maybe I should have stated my question a little differently. Where has a religious group killed another religious group just because of their religious affiliation?
The Nazis were not a religious group and a million Christians were killed along side the Jews in concentration camps. They hid their Jewish friends from the Nazis. When the Nazis found the Jews in their house both the Jews and the Christians were sent to the camps.
Depending on how you define violence. With there being over 6 billion humans there is going to be more violence because there will be more and more people killed just because of the huge numbers. If we are looking at violence as a percentage, then I really do not know. There is always going to be violence, but it might just seem more prevalant because we see it on TV, Internet, and hear it on the radio.[/quote]
i think we are actually in agreement, i don’t dispute any of the above.
it does irk me though when i hear some statements - surprisingly often - that we live in such a dangerous era.
i find it very ignorant and disrespectful to our history.
we should be grateful and more aware of our good fortune to live in these times.
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
Christians have always been at risk in these places, same as other religions in other locations.
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Always? Christians are killed more than any other religion just for their beliefs. Where in the world are people killed for their religion other than in Islamist and Communist/Socialist countries?[/quote]
how about the Jews during ww2?
the premise of this argument is harrypotter has said the world is more violent THAN EVER BEFORE. at no point in history have humans NOT been killing each other due to religious beliefs.
regarding your second question, Christians have always been getting killed in these regions, it’s a fact we cannot really argue about it it’s just the truth.
[/quote]
Maybe I should have stated my question a little differently. Where has a religious group killed another religious group just because of their religious affiliation?
The Nazis were not a religious group and a million Christians were killed along side the Jews in concentration camps. They hid their Jewish friends from the Nazis. When the Nazis found the Jews in their house both the Jews and the Christians were sent to the camps.
Depending on how you define violence. With there being over 6 billion humans there is going to be more violence because there will be more and more people killed just because of the huge numbers. If we are looking at violence as a percentage, then I really do not know. There is always going to be violence, but it might just seem more prevalant because we see it on TV, Internet, and hear it on the radio.[/quote]
i think we are actually in agreement, i don’t dispute any of the above.
it does irk me though when i hear some statements - surprisingly often - that we live in such a dangerous era.
i find it very ignorant and disrespectful to our history.
we should be grateful and more aware of our good fortune to live in these times.
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I agree. I love living in these current times. I just wish the future looked as bright for my children as it does for me.
It’s happening as we speak. BMW is already making available a limited driverless application on their X5 model. They expect to be completely driverless by 2020 or so.
Not only does it take small steps for the technology to become available to the general public, it’s going to take small steps for the general public to warm up to the idea of driverless technology. Once the traffic-assist option is available on more and more new cars, people will quickly get used to, and like, the idea of just zoning out and jerking off or reading or staring into space while they’re stuck in a traffic jam. By then, we’ll have the next natural step toward completely autonomous driverless cars available and we’ll slowly get used to that, and so on and so on.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
It’s happening as we speak. BMW is already making available a limited driverless application on their X5 model. They expect to be completely driverless by 2020 or so.
Not only does it take small steps for the technology to become available to the general public, it’s going to take small steps for the general public to warm up to the idea of driverless technology. Once the traffic-assist option is available on more and more new cars, people will quickly get used to, and like, the idea of just zoning out and jerking off or reading or staring into space while they’re stuck in a traffic jam. By then, we’ll have the next natural step toward completely autonomous driverless cars available and we’ll slowly get used to that, and so on and so on.[/quote]
7 more years?? Damn, I want it now. I fucking hate driving.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
It will be interesting to see what industries virtually disappear as a result of this shift and what new ones will pop up.
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I am planning a moving convenience store. Kind of like in “The 5th Element” how that coffee car comes up to their window. Well basically you would find a way to signal me on the side of the road to come to your window with a van full of refreshments and toiletries and such so we could complete our transaction. If I’m part of a fuel station franchise, like ExxonMobil or something like that, perhaps other cars have been pre-programmed to slow to allow me to get alongside you quickly and your car allows me to be closer than other vehicles. Or maybe I drive along and if you select that you would like to come up alongside me, I can essentially be boxed in so I can provide items to 4 vehicles at 1 time.
Admittedly, I feel like this is easier with automatic flying cars so I may have to wait a little bit…
I think these cars will need an auto on/off switch tho for more spirited driving…