Listening to that podcast sounds like maybe he had dug in hard on his position and got personal to the point where it caused him to be roundly criticized by his peers and shunned a little for it. That can be hard on the ego. That sort of thing coupled with health issues and other personal issues/issues of fulfillment etc… People are complicated and the type of despair that causes people to take their own lives is usually multi-faceted. I can say for a fact that when I was in the throes of life altering/limiting chronic pain and other painful debilitating health problems (and I had many) I felt like I was trapped in my own body and thought about death a lot. It wasn’t just the pain either. It was how it impacted and limited my ability to live my life the way I wanted.
Dr. Crisler hung himself in the garage. It’s in the audio stream of the superhuman podcast, NOT Jay’s TOT podcast but Jay appeared on the superhuman one and talked about the suicide. Jay wasn’t given permission to mention the suicide on his podcast at the time of broadcast but family has since gone public with it.
Sounds like the divorce was BRUTAL too. Huge stresses of divorce and false allegations, men getting shafted in court, stress over AI submission, stresses of doctoring, personal problems not reported… all got to him. RIP Dr. Crisler.
Tragic
What minute mark of the video does Jay mention this on the podcast, i couldn’t find the information you just mentioned.
Dude, it’s an hour and a half long. LOL I listened to it once… good luck:
SHR # 2291 :: We Pay Homage to Dr. John Crisler :: FOUND at Jay says slighly after 49:00 mark someone said it was 45 mark but it’s just after 49:00 its very SAD he hung himself. He was under GIGANTIC stress from probably personal life of divorce i heard, plus all the TRT patients problems on top of it. Must be a tough job. Condolences.
Hello, what is all this about AIs blame on TRT patients??? does some study show AIs cause problems even on a very low dose???
Guys i have a question i also read KSman who is an administrator i believe he still defends that Arimidex 1mg should be taken for each 100 mg of test, reducing that dose to 1/4th in overresponders, why is it that all of the sudden everyone seems to be so against AIs ??? is that theory from KSman proven wrong ??
This is directly from his presentation to doctors:
Yes. And he was not an administrator, merely a high profile member who dropped off the forum mid last year.
OK OMG i´m gonna have to reevaluate my entire protocol
I’ve watched many doctors talk about ai and get over the past few weeks. From crissler to the anabolic doc and the tot revolution round tables . Essentially what they say is the following:
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Do not prescribe an ai just because we are starting TRT.
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There must be symptoms and blood work to back it up, and one should not go off e2 levels alone. If someone has above normal e2 but no symptoms you don’t need to prescribe. Every body is different.
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After a month or two you should expect the body to adapt and allot of times e2 is not an issue. I hope there right because I’m in this phase.
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Sometimes folks have to use an ai temporarily and once they loose extra fat and start eating healthy the ai can be removed.
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Allot of folks say hcg + trt causes higher e2 . People on jsut trt don’t have as high e2 problems.
For example I have nipple sensitivity last week (5th week) and I had a sensitive e2 test done last week as well. I was 100% sure I had e2 welll above normal… I was sure… anyways the results showed my e2 was 27.5… that’s 4 above where I started before trt. Interesting that my e2 symptoms correlate with high e2 , but I don’t have high e2. What’s that mean? I guess body’s adapting to new T and I need to be patient?
If I was on an ai with such a low amount of e2 I would of crashed quick… that would suck. I’m glad I found these folks and this information.
That is a good question. TRT is a rapidly evolving aspect in men’s health care, BHRT too for women. As more demand it more doctors will be looking into it. I also think doctors like Neal Rouzier are on the forefront and gaining more and more influence. I believe he is at least part of the reason John Crisler had rethought his AI approach with patients, and himself.
So reducing the dose and increase frequency of injection, i´ll do that.
Yeah, uh, no. He was not a Mod or Admin. He was a forum member with a high post count, entirely self-taught with no formal training in TRT beyond what he did for himself.
I suggest taking the more in-depth discussion about AIs to another thread, such as this one, rather than continuing it in this thread about Dr. Crisler.
@Chris_Colucci also gang I am not an administrator either. Just so everyone knows.
Honestly, he just didn’t strike me as A suicidal personality. I hope that they’ve exhausted all investigations because how do they know this wasn’t a homicide? I would be interested to see some of the further investigated results. It sounds like his ex was a real piece of work
Depression is a cruel mistress, many times it’s an invisible illness. With severe depression many people seem fine to the public eye when they’re deteriorating rapidly. It’s very sad to hear about John Crisler passing, especially from a preventable cause such as this