Double Amputee Killed by Cop

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[quote]WN76 wrote:

Yea, but I don’t think firefighters or doctors get the stink eye from people while grocery shopping with their family. A lot of people don’t like cops. I don’t want people knowing I’m a cop on my downtime. That’s why I live outside of the area I police.[/quote]

Criminals feel that way too. Just saying. Hah.

If you don’t like answering to the scrutiny of the public, you shouldn’t be a public servant.

And did you ever think firefighters don’t get looked at that way BECAUSE they don’t ever shoot people?

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

Yea, but I don’t think firefighters or doctors get the stink eye from people while grocery shopping with their family. A lot of people don’t like cops. I don’t want people knowing I’m a cop on my downtime. That’s why I live outside of the area I police.[/quote]

Criminals feel that way too. Just saying. Hah.

If you don’t like answering to the scrutiny of the public, you shouldn’t be a public servant.

And did you ever think firefighters don’t get looked at that way BECAUSE they don’t ever shoot people?[/quote]

Yea, everyone loves fire-fighters until they go around issuing non-compliance fines for houses with faulty or non-existent smoke detectors. It’s not all Dalmatians, savings cats from trees, and flooding basements.

I don’t have a problem dealing with the scrutiny of the public while I’m in uniform. But don’t fucking give me a hard time while I with my family because you were texting while speeding and got a ticket (I HATE giving out tickets and will only do it if someone is blatantly being STUPID).

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Armchair quarterbacks.[/quote]

Who watches the watchmen?[/quote]

I don’t have a problem with transparency. It’s when ordinary people watch movies and think they have an understanding of how cops should deal with life and death situations. There was an incident which resulted in the death of a civilian. There is an ongoing process to determine what happened, and the results of that process will reveal if the cop screwed up.

Do you think police are guilty until proven otherwise?
[/quote]

With laws being passed prohibiting filming of cops and such, it’s becoming my default stance.
[/quote]

Yea, that’s stupid. My cruiser is equipped with five cameras and I wear a microphone pack so even if I go outside of camera view, everything is audio recorded. It’s more likely to save my ass than bury it.

I don’t like it when some idiot has a camera phone out, though. Things are taken out of context and it gets edited. I don’t want to be on Youtube for doing my job, even if I did it right.
[/quote]

Part of the game.

Little brother is watching you too.

And that is a good thing, because you are issued a badge, a gun and a limitless amount of people who will excuse your actions even if you piss on an orphan.

To trust you would be foolish.[/quote]

Things must be different across the pond. My actions are always blown out of proportion. The other day I was in a store, not in uniform, and had a complaint about the service I received. I was very professional and polite while addressing it. I went into work the next day and my boss told me he received a complaint about me. She knew I was a cop because I had my uniform dry cleaned there and tried to get me into trouble. What a bitch.

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[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Armchair quarterbacks.[/quote]

Who watches the watchmen?[/quote]

I don’t have a problem with transparency. It’s when ordinary people watch movies and think they have an understanding of how cops should deal with life and death situations. There was an incident which resulted in the death of a civilian. There is an ongoing process to determine what happened, and the results of that process will reveal if the cop screwed up.

Do you think police are guilty until proven otherwise?
[/quote]

With laws being passed prohibiting filming of cops and such, it’s becoming my default stance.
[/quote]

Yea, that’s stupid. My cruiser is equipped with five cameras and I wear a microphone pack so even if I go outside of camera view, everything is audio recorded. It’s more likely to save my ass than bury it.

I don’t like it when some idiot has a camera phone out, though. Things are taken out of context and it gets edited. I don’t want to be on Youtube for doing my job, even if I did it right.
[/quote]

Part of the game.

Little brother is watching you too.

And that is a good thing, because you are issued a badge, a gun and a limitless amount of people who will excuse your actions even if you piss on an orphan.

To trust you would be foolish.[/quote]

Things must be different across the pond. My actions are always blown out of proportion. The other day I was in a store, not in uniform, and had a complaint about the service I received. I was very professional and polite while addressing it. I went into work the next day and my boss told me he received a complaint about me. She knew I was a cop because I had my uniform dry cleaned there and tried to get me into trouble. What a bitch.

[/quote]

Things indeed are different over here and a lot of things that happen in the US would be literally unthinkable.

However, I would prefer to live in a society where people are able to mouth off to the police or be unreasonably vindictive than to a society where a police officer is beyond reproach.

Unfortunately, us being human beings subtlety and nuance are not our forte.

Even more regrettable is the fact that once you issue a badge and a gun that limited capacity is diminished even more.

If someone has to bear the brunt of all this unreasonableness it should indeed be the police.

They are the buffers between us and our dark side, it is their fucking job.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Armchair quarterbacks.[/quote]

Who watches the watchmen?[/quote]

I don’t have a problem with transparency. It’s when ordinary people watch movies and think they have an understanding of how cops should deal with life and death situations. There was an incident which resulted in the death of a civilian. There is an ongoing process to determine what happened, and the results of that process will reveal if the cop screwed up.

Do you think police are guilty until proven otherwise?
[/quote]

With laws being passed prohibiting filming of cops and such, it’s becoming my default stance.
[/quote]

Yea, that’s stupid. My cruiser is equipped with five cameras and I wear a microphone pack so even if I go outside of camera view, everything is audio recorded. It’s more likely to save my ass than bury it.

I don’t like it when some idiot has a camera phone out, though. Things are taken out of context and it gets edited. I don’t want to be on Youtube for doing my job, even if I did it right.
[/quote]

Part of the game.

Little brother is watching you too.

And that is a good thing, because you are issued a badge, a gun and a limitless amount of people who will excuse your actions even if you piss on an orphan.

To trust you would be foolish.[/quote]

Things must be different across the pond. My actions are always blown out of proportion. The other day I was in a store, not in uniform, and had a complaint about the service I received. I was very professional and polite while addressing it. I went into work the next day and my boss told me he received a complaint about me. She knew I was a cop because I had my uniform dry cleaned there and tried to get me into trouble. What a bitch.

[/quote]

Things indeed are different over here and a lot of things that happen in the US would be literally unthinkable.

However, I would prefer to live in a society where people are able to mouth off to the police or be unreasonably vindictive than to a society where a police officer is beyond reproach.

Unfortunately, us being human beings subtlety and nuance are not our forte.

Even more regrettable is the fact that once you issue a badge and a gun that limited capacity is diminished even more.

If someone has to bear the brunt of all this unreasonableness it should indeed be the police.

They are the buffers between us and our dark side, it is their fucking job. [/quote]

But not while I’m at the drug store at 3am getting tampons for my woman. Life is hard enough.

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[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Armchair quarterbacks.[/quote]

Who watches the watchmen?[/quote]

I don’t have a problem with transparency. It’s when ordinary people watch movies and think they have an understanding of how cops should deal with life and death situations. There was an incident which resulted in the death of a civilian. There is an ongoing process to determine what happened, and the results of that process will reveal if the cop screwed up.

Do you think police are guilty until proven otherwise?
[/quote]

With laws being passed prohibiting filming of cops and such, it’s becoming my default stance.
[/quote]

Yea, that’s stupid. My cruiser is equipped with five cameras and I wear a microphone pack so even if I go outside of camera view, everything is audio recorded. It’s more likely to save my ass than bury it.

I don’t like it when some idiot has a camera phone out, though. Things are taken out of context and it gets edited. I don’t want to be on Youtube for doing my job, even if I did it right.
[/quote]

Part of the game.

Little brother is watching you too.

And that is a good thing, because you are issued a badge, a gun and a limitless amount of people who will excuse your actions even if you piss on an orphan.

To trust you would be foolish.[/quote]

Things must be different across the pond. My actions are always blown out of proportion. The other day I was in a store, not in uniform, and had a complaint about the service I received. I was very professional and polite while addressing it. I went into work the next day and my boss told me he received a complaint about me. She knew I was a cop because I had my uniform dry cleaned there and tried to get me into trouble. What a bitch.

[/quote]

Things indeed are different over here and a lot of things that happen in the US would be literally unthinkable.

However, I would prefer to live in a society where people are able to mouth off to the police or be unreasonably vindictive than to a society where a police officer is beyond reproach.

Unfortunately, us being human beings subtlety and nuance are not our forte.

Even more regrettable is the fact that once you issue a badge and a gun that limited capacity is diminished even more.

If someone has to bear the brunt of all this unreasonableness it should indeed be the police.

They are the buffers between us and our dark side, it is their fucking job. [/quote]

But not while I’m at the drug store at 3am getting tampons for my woman. Life is hard enough.
[/quote]

Admittedly, there most likely are limits.

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[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Armchair quarterbacks.[/quote]

Who watches the watchmen?[/quote]

I don’t have a problem with transparency. It’s when ordinary people watch movies and think they have an understanding of how cops should deal with life and death situations. There was an incident which resulted in the death of a civilian. There is an ongoing process to determine what happened, and the results of that process will reveal if the cop screwed up.

Do you think police are guilty until proven otherwise?
[/quote]

With laws being passed prohibiting filming of cops and such, it’s becoming my default stance.
[/quote]

Yea, that’s stupid. My cruiser is equipped with five cameras and I wear a microphone pack so even if I go outside of camera view, everything is audio recorded. It’s more likely to save my ass than bury it.

I don’t like it when some idiot has a camera phone out, though. Things are taken out of context and it gets edited. I don’t want to be on Youtube for doing my job, even if I did it right.
[/quote]

C’mon. Trial by youtube is one of the fundamental principles of our judicial system. Pretty sure it’s in the constitution, somewhere toward the back.

What could go wrong?

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Armchair quarterbacks.[/quote]

Who watches the watchmen?[/quote]

I don’t have a problem with transparency. It’s when ordinary people watch movies and think they have an understanding of how cops should deal with life and death situations. There was an incident which resulted in the death of a civilian. There is an ongoing process to determine what happened, and the results of that process will reveal if the cop screwed up.

Do you think police are guilty until proven otherwise?
[/quote]

With laws being passed prohibiting filming of cops and such, it’s becoming my default stance.
[/quote]

Yea, that’s stupid. My cruiser is equipped with five cameras and I wear a microphone pack so even if I go outside of camera view, everything is audio recorded. It’s more likely to save my ass than bury it.

I don’t like it when some idiot has a camera phone out, though. Things are taken out of context and it gets edited. I don’t want to be on Youtube for doing my job, even if I did it right.
[/quote]

C’mon. Trial by youtube is one of the fundamental principles of our judicial system. Pretty sure it’s in the constitution, somewhere toward the back.

What could go wrong?[/quote]

Haha, yea. Imagine your fate resting in the hands of 12 randomly selected people… From Youtube!

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[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Armchair quarterbacks.[/quote]

Who watches the watchmen?[/quote]

I don’t have a problem with transparency. It’s when ordinary people watch movies and think they have an understanding of how cops should deal with life and death situations. There was an incident which resulted in the death of a civilian. There is an ongoing process to determine what happened, and the results of that process will reveal if the cop screwed up.

Do you think police are guilty until proven otherwise?
[/quote]

With laws being passed prohibiting filming of cops and such, it’s becoming my default stance.
[/quote]

Yea, that’s stupid. My cruiser is equipped with five cameras and I wear a microphone pack so even if I go outside of camera view, everything is audio recorded. It’s more likely to save my ass than bury it.

I don’t like it when some idiot has a camera phone out, though. Things are taken out of context and it gets edited. I don’t want to be on Youtube for doing my job, even if I did it right.
[/quote]

C’mon. Trial by youtube is one of the fundamental principles of our judicial system. Pretty sure it’s in the constitution, somewhere toward the back.

What could go wrong?[/quote]

Haha, yea. Imagine your fate resting in the hands of 12 randomly selected people… From Youtube!
[/quote]

12 randomly selected people would probably be better than 500,000 who clicked on something with “Police brutality etc…” in the title. It’s possible that some of those people may have formed some bias ahead of time.

FTR I have no idea if this deal was righteous or not (how could I), but the headline sure sounds bad as a sound bite. Glad I’m not in the media relations division of that PD…

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Armchair quarterbacks.[/quote]

Who watches the watchmen?[/quote]

I don’t have a problem with transparency. It’s when ordinary people watch movies and think they have an understanding of how cops should deal with life and death situations. There was an incident which resulted in the death of a civilian. There is an ongoing process to determine what happened, and the results of that process will reveal if the cop screwed up.

Do you think police are guilty until proven otherwise?
[/quote]

With laws being passed prohibiting filming of cops and such, it’s becoming my default stance.
[/quote]

Yea, that’s stupid. My cruiser is equipped with five cameras and I wear a microphone pack so even if I go outside of camera view, everything is audio recorded. It’s more likely to save my ass than bury it.

I don’t like it when some idiot has a camera phone out, though. Things are taken out of context and it gets edited. I don’t want to be on Youtube for doing my job, even if I did it right.
[/quote]

C’mon. Trial by youtube is one of the fundamental principles of our judicial system. Pretty sure it’s in the constitution, somewhere toward the back.

What could go wrong?[/quote]

Haha, yea. Imagine your fate resting in the hands of 12 randomly selected people… From Youtube!
[/quote]

12 randomly selected people would probably be better than 500,000 who clicked on something with “Police brutality etc…” in the title. It’s possible that some of those people may have formed some bias ahead of time.

FTR I have no idea if this deal was righteous or not (how could I), but the headline sure sounds bad as a sound bite. Glad I’m not in the media relations division of that PD…
[/quote]

Yea neither do I. I bet the media cop is relieved the guy was white though. Phew! People get more worked up about a Beagle getting lit up than a white guy.

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Edit.

Poor taste.

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RIP Rodney King

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[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

Yea, but I don’t think firefighters or doctors get the stink eye from people while grocery shopping with their family. A lot of people don’t like cops. I don’t want people knowing I’m a cop on my downtime. That’s why I live outside of the area I police.[/quote]

Criminals feel that way too. Just saying. Hah.

If you don’t like answering to the scrutiny of the public, you shouldn’t be a public servant.

And did you ever think firefighters don’t get looked at that way BECAUSE they don’t ever shoot people?[/quote]

Yea, everyone loves fire-fighters until they go around issuing non-compliance fines for houses with faulty or non-existent smoke detectors. It’s not all Dalmatians, savings cats from trees, and flooding basements.

I don’t have a problem dealing with the scrutiny of the public while I’m in uniform. But don’t fucking give me a hard time while I with my family because you were texting while speeding and got a ticket (I HATE giving out tickets and will only do it if someone is blatantly being STUPID).

[/quote]

I personally have no authority to issue fines.

Ironically, the public drive to education about fires has drastically reduced the number of structure fires to the point of being rare. I’ve personally only been in 2 structure fires in about a year of volunteering (out of probably 200 calls). Most of what we do is car wrecks and medical calls. Which is why I went and got my extrication certification and am working on my EMR certification. The running into a burning building to save little Timmy thing from the movies virtually never happens.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]WN76 wrote:

Yea, but I don’t think firefighters or doctors get the stink eye from people while grocery shopping with their family. A lot of people don’t like cops. I don’t want people knowing I’m a cop on my downtime. That’s why I live outside of the area I police.[/quote]

Criminals feel that way too. Just saying. Hah.

If you don’t like answering to the scrutiny of the public, you shouldn’t be a public servant.

And did you ever think firefighters don’t get looked at that way BECAUSE they don’t ever shoot people?[/quote]

Yea, everyone loves fire-fighters until they go around issuing non-compliance fines for houses with faulty or non-existent smoke detectors. It’s not all Dalmatians, savings cats from trees, and flooding basements.

I don’t have a problem dealing with the scrutiny of the public while I’m in uniform. But don’t fucking give me a hard time while I with my family because you were texting while speeding and got a ticket (I HATE giving out tickets and will only do it if someone is blatantly being STUPID).

[/quote]

I personally have no authority to issue fines.

Ironically, the public drive to education about fires has drastically reduced the number of structure fires to the point of being rare. I’ve personally only been in 2 structure fires in about a year of volunteering (out of probably 200 calls). Most of what we do is car wrecks and medical calls. Which is why I went and got my extrication certification and am working on my EMR certification. The running into a burning building to save little Timmy thing from the movies virtually never happens.[/quote]

DD what do you do for money?

Whats your day job

Turning tricks aside :slight_smile:

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

DD what do you do for money?

Whats your day job

Turning tricks aside :)[/quote]

Mechanical and Electrical engineer.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

DD what do you do for money?

Whats your day job

Turning tricks aside :)[/quote]

Mechanical and Electrical engineer.[/quote]

I forgot and just remembered when I saw that.

I am getting old forgive me.

Carry on

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

DD what do you do for money?

Whats your day job

Turning tricks aside :)[/quote]

Mechanical and Electrical engineer.[/quote]

I forgot and just remembered when I saw that.

I am getting old forgive me.

Carry on [/quote]

Lol old person

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

DD what do you do for money?

Whats your day job

Turning tricks aside :)[/quote]

Mechanical and Electrical engineer.[/quote]

I forgot and just remembered when I saw that.

I am getting old forgive me.

Carry on [/quote]

Lol old person[/quote]

Lol young person

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This wheelchair guy started some shit and got lit up for it.

What’s the problem?

Don’t start none wont be none

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

DD what do you do for money?

Whats your day job

Turning tricks aside :)[/quote]

Mechanical and Electrical engineer.[/quote]

I forgot and just remembered when I saw that.

I am getting old forgive me.

Carry on [/quote]

Lol old person[/quote]

Lol young person[/quote]

http://ridgewood.patch.com/articles/man-loses-control-of-vehicle-slams-into-utility-pole-on-van-emburgh-ave