Dosing HCG with T-Cyp

Help Mr. Softy 's Back In Town

I’m injecting .20ML T-Cyp (40mg) E3D, but when I inject .20 HCG (subq) (200cc)I get soft right away, after only one injection. Do I lower T or HCG? I’m guessing I’m getting an estradiol spike but the dose seems very low so why would the HCG make me get soft after injection. I should point out doing very well on the T only then added HCG and Mr. Softy is back in town!

I want to make sure that I get enough HCG to avoid atrophy, suggestions please.

Thanks for the help (again) I love this place!!

What’s the hcg protocol how much hcg are you using weekly and in what increments

Please post more labs!! What is the liver doing?

e2 levels are or were ?

Read the advice for new guys sticky and try and keep your posts in one place so we can better help you

I just re- started HCG only two injections so far, both triggered a estradiol spike (I’m guessing). Liver is fine and so are the labs I’m just looking for a little advice on how to balance the dosing. As I mentioned I was doing great on .25ml Cyp E3D alone but that dose is to high once you add in HCG. So I lowered T to .20ml and still “feels” high with .20ml (200cc) HCG. I’m guessing more estradiol spiking, but less than the .25 level.

Most guys I read about are dosing HCG around 500 cc weekly so I was thinking 200 cc E3d and lowering T Cyp to .15ml T.

Please keep in mind I’m talking about days not a long term problem.

[quote]Thomtst wrote:
I just re- started HCG only two injections so far, both triggered a estradiol spike (I’m guessing). Liver is fine and so are the labs I’m just looking for a little advice on how to balance the dosing. As I mentioned I was doing great on .25ml Cyp E3D alone but that dose is to high once you add in HCG. So I lowered T to .20ml and still “feels” high with .20ml (200cc) HCG. I’m guessing more estradiol spiking, but less than the .25 level.

Most guys I read about are dosing HCG around 500 cc weekly so I was thinking 200 cc E3d and lowering T Cyp to .15ml T.

Please keep in mind I’m talking about days not a long term problem.[/quote]

Hmm

I would want to see your e2 and thyroid panel with rt3

What are you using for an AI?

I have no idea how many units of hCG you are injecting.

I’m guessing you are using 200iu HCG.
Seems like protocols have HCG ranging from 100-500 per week.
I’ve read many arguments for it’s weekly use and many against.
It really comes down to how it effects you, and what your reason is for it’s use.

I use HCG just to avoid atrophy, and testicular pain only.
I found it made e2 difficult to balance when I used it weekly.
I inject 250iu once every 14-21 days. I find it firms me up and relieves the ache overnight.
Testes ache or softness are the things that prompt me to it.

Good Luck.