Dog Days

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Not that you need reassurance, and I haven’t seen the fight, but I’m guessing from your interview you went in there and executed your game plan immaculately. As you said, you’re known as an offensive fighter. All well and good, until you meet someone who can (out)match you offensively. You went in there to work your defense and stick to the plan in front of a crowd trying to pressure you into doing something rash. People in the audience don’t necessarily have the personal experience, or recognise that fights are important learning experiences for fighters looking to progress, and that opponents are picked to let you achieve a particular thing as you climb the ladder. There’s times for fights full of drama, and blood an glory, but you only have so many of them before they take their toll, and it’s smart to save it for the fights/opponents where you can make your name and step up a level.

Long story short, fuck anyone who boos you mate. Keep your health and your career strong, and keep working towards the bigger picture. And don’t forget about us when you hit the big time (I’ve never been to Vegas, just saying)![/quote]
Yeah, we did pretty well.
I must take a look at the video and see how it actually looked.

On the plus side… it might have got me a pretty big opportunity, if things fall into place correctly!

[quote]Dude623 wrote:
Congrats on the WIN, I thought that was a good interview. Is there anywhere we can catch the fight.[/quote]
Thanks so much pal.
I was very repetitive wasn’t i? haha

The fight, I’ve got as mobile video, the dvd will be out pretty soon I guess?!
I’m not suire its worth sharing though. Incredibly boring fight!

In research mode and found quite a tidy little piece.
I know its generic internet video analysis - but being mindful of the principles before training is key.

[quote]donnydarkoirl wrote:

In research mode and found quite a tidy little piece.
I know its generic internet video analysis - but being mindful of the principles before training is key.[/quote]

Looking forward to watching this this evening, thanks for sharing! The still for the video is pretty classic for a video analysing boxing technique - eyes shut, hands down, chin up.

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Looking forward to watching this this evening, thanks for sharing! The still for the video is pretty classic for a video analysing boxing technique - eyes shut, hands down, chin up. [/quote]
I remember reading an article criticising Lee a few years ago.
It stated that essentially he was a performer and not a fighter.
I’d go along with this, but he does capture the philosophies of the sport at times.

[quote]donnydarkoirl wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Looking forward to watching this this evening, thanks for sharing! The still for the video is pretty classic for a video analysing boxing technique - eyes shut, hands down, chin up. [/quote]
I remember reading an article criticising Lee a few years ago.
It stated that essentially he was a performer and not a fighter.
I’d go along with this, but he does capture the philosophies of the sport at times.

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Most definitely. While he may not be a fighter, or at least not the invincible giant slayer the uninitiated seem to believe he was, he was certainly a dedicated, intelligent and thoughtful student. I think it’s possible (and indeed I have done over the years) to learn a great deal from him.

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Most definitely. While he may not be a fighter, or at least not the invincible giant slayer the uninitiated seem to believe he was, he was certainly a dedicated, intelligent and thoughtful student. I think it’s possible (and indeed I have done over the years) to learn a great deal from him. [/quote]
Over the years I’ve been guilty of dismissing the opinions of those who have never competed in the sport.
But I guess to do that would be dismissive of the observations of Ray Arcel, Angelo Dundee and their ilk?

[quote]donnydarkoirl wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Most definitely. While he may not be a fighter, or at least not the invincible giant slayer the uninitiated seem to believe he was, he was certainly a dedicated, intelligent and thoughtful student. I think it’s possible (and indeed I have done over the years) to learn a great deal from him. [/quote]
Over the years I’ve been guilty of dismissing the opinions of those who have never competed in the sport.
But I guess to do that would be dismissive of the observations of Ray Arcel, Angelo Dundee and their ilk?
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Me too. I remember being told that D’Amato had only every fought once, one amateur bout, that he lost. That was quite an eye opener for me, not to mention the guys you listed above, who knew a thing or two about preparing fighters. I think a healthy dose of skepticism is reasonable though, until a coach proves his knowledge and ability.

For example, I made a snarky comment about Lee based on the still of the video above, but I bet by the time I get done watching that video, I’ll have learned something useful from him, or thought about how to apply some of his learning within my own frame of experience - even if I come at it from the stance of thinking he wasn’t much as a fighter.

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Me too. I remember being told that D’Amato had only every fought once, one amateur bout, that he lost. That was quite an eye opener for me, not to mention the guys you listed above, who knew a thing or two about preparing fighters. I think a healthy dose of skepticism is reasonable though, until a coach proves his knowledge and ability.

For example, I made a snarky comment about Lee based on the still of the video above, but I bet by the time I get done watching that video, I’ll have learned something useful from him, or thought about how to apply some of his learning within my own frame of experience - even if I come at it from the stance of thinking he wasn’t much as a fighter. [/quote]
I forgot about D’amato, but yeah! Thats a valid point!

Yeah, I’m not sure about Lee’s actual; credentials.
But he could have been a decent vessel for carrying information.

Read another good point on Ben Doughty’s facebook page yesterday…
He asked in what other sport would a first time professional enter the ring with another that has been in the ring with one that’s been in numerous times, regardless of their records.
A solid professional put forward the point that journeymen were essentially for imparting experience and ring knowledge.
It was an interesting point.

[quote]donnydarkoirl wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Me too. I remember being told that D’Amato had only every fought once, one amateur bout, that he lost. That was quite an eye opener for me, not to mention the guys you listed above, who knew a thing or two about preparing fighters. I think a healthy dose of skepticism is reasonable though, until a coach proves his knowledge and ability.

For example, I made a snarky comment about Lee based on the still of the video above, but I bet by the time I get done watching that video, I’ll have learned something useful from him, or thought about how to apply some of his learning within my own frame of experience - even if I come at it from the stance of thinking he wasn’t much as a fighter. [/quote]
I forgot about D’amato, but yeah! Thats a valid point!

Yeah, I’m not sure about Lee’s actual; credentials.
But he could have been a decent vessel for carrying information.

Read another good point on Ben Doughty’s facebook page yesterday…
He asked in what other sport would a first time professional enter the ring with another that has been in the ring with one that’s been in numerous times, regardless of their records.
A solid professional put forward the point that journeymen were essentially for imparting experience and ring knowledge.
It was an interesting point.[/quote]

Definitely a good point. I think I was trying to get at something similar in one of my earlier comments here, about using your last fight to work your defense and get the experience you need to improve aspects of your game. That’s what the casual fan maybe doesn’t understand so much. Yes, a guy like you could go in with a seasoned journeyman, and maybe just blow him away with your slicker offense, but you’re really doing yourself out of the opportunity to learn ‘safely’ from a guy who has been around and shared the ring with a lot of rising talent. In a few short rounds, if you use them well, you have the opportunity to walk away with many years, and many fights worth of experience - the value of which is far greater than another KO on the record.

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Definitely a good point. I think I was trying to get at something similar in one of my earlier comments here, about using your last fight to work your defense and get the experience you need to improve aspects of your game. That’s what the casual fan maybe doesn’t understand so much. Yes, a guy like you could go in with a seasoned journeyman, and maybe just blow him away with your slicker offense, but you’re really doing yourself out of the opportunity to learn ‘safely’ from a guy who has been around and shared the ring with a lot of rising talent. In a few short rounds, if you use them well, you have the opportunity to walk away with many years, and many fights worth of experience - the value of which is far greater than another KO on the record.[/quote]
Thats what I took from your previous comment actually, I got what you were saying.

Definitely a marked improvement in me in the past year, which ius unusual having travelled from a tried and tested coach to a more obscure training system.

Very excited about my next phase of training though.

[quote]donnydarkoirl wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Definitely a good point. I think I was trying to get at something similar in one of my earlier comments here, about using your last fight to work your defense and get the experience you need to improve aspects of your game. That’s what the casual fan maybe doesn’t understand so much. Yes, a guy like you could go in with a seasoned journeyman, and maybe just blow him away with your slicker offense, but you’re really doing yourself out of the opportunity to learn ‘safely’ from a guy who has been around and shared the ring with a lot of rising talent. In a few short rounds, if you use them well, you have the opportunity to walk away with many years, and many fights worth of experience - the value of which is far greater than another KO on the record.[/quote]
Thats what I took from your previous comment actually, I got what you were saying.

Definitely a marked improvement in me in the past year, which ius unusual having travelled from a tried and tested coach to a more obscure training system.

Very excited about my next phase of training though.
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The change seems to have done a lot of good. Just as a follower of this thread, your posts seem far more enthusiastic now, even about 6am training, than they did when you first posted your log here. I’m not surprised that confidence is translating to dominant performances in the ring.

LB has a great point.
The Video- Liked the video good analysis of what was going on, I had never seen it broke down in that manner. It puts it into very generic terms of which have little value to a coach/fighter at lower levels but is valuable at analyzing tactics at higher levels of fighting.

[quote]Dude623 wrote:
LB has a great point.
The Video- Liked the video good analysis of what was going on, I had never seen it broke down in that manner. It puts it into very generic terms of which have little value to a coach/fighter at lower levels but is valuable at analyzing tactics at higher levels of fighting.[/quote]
I spoke with Nicholas Cruz Hernandez when I was a kid and he had a similar approach from the Cuban schools.
Of course he had different terminologies and definitions.

We all have different ideas and notions on the sport/training/technique.
And sometimes It can be hard to articulate our intentions fully.
But using a standardised medium such as the “5 ways of attack” we can more easily compare beliefs and ideologies.

So in that respect it is very useful, in my opinion.

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
The change seems to have done a lot of good. Just as a follower of this thread, your posts seem far more enthusiastic now, even about 6am training, than they did when you first posted your log here. I’m not surprised that confidence is translating to dominant performances in the ring. [/quote]
I think that definitely a fair appraisal.
I’m a happier guy now I think.

Training has been completely overhauled.
I’ve taken two different approaches and neither were perfect.
But I think by taking the best elements of each approach, I’ll have a solid blueprint :slight_smile:

For entertainment purposes… Not ribbing on you, I wish I were this light on my feet.

I sincerely hate that video lol.

A light middleweight me!

Oh… and by all means, rib away lol

^RE: The above.

Ironically I was in the same ring, in the same venue a couple of years later for a charity day.

Are you taking song requests for future videos Donny?

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:
Are you taking song requests for future videos Donny?[/quote]
Yes.
Yes, I am.

I took a full week off after my fight …
Actually no I didn’t, that’s a lie.
I went back training the Thursday after, found my shoulders to be sore and rested until the following Tuesday.

My Catalogue of Injuries;
Muscle strain from my left ankle upward to my mid-shin on the external face of my calf.
Both shoulders feel “loose” in their sockets, as if the supporting muscles have been extended or stretched.
Strain in the elbows from extension.
Inflamed middle knuckle on my left hand. Suggested fracture to the knuckle.
evidence of nerve damage in my upper back - has not reoccurred.

None of these issues are serious. they are just the usual niggles from training hard and I can select exercises to repair most of them.

17.02.2015 am CONDITIONING

45 minute circuit. 12 stations.
This session was reasonable. I had difficulty with some certain exercises…
Namely; Hanging leg raises, Rotational swing, Jump Squats.
These exercises have been an issue for a while and are the result of some definite weaknesses in my physiology.
With no fight scheduled at the moment, I will take the opportunity to work on improving these areas.

17.02.2015 pm BOXING

I’ve become a regular at my girlfriend’s boxing club and have been coaching there as well as training myself.
I led the warm-up again yesterday evening and I did it my way;

1.0 Warmup
1.1 Joints & Muscles - Head to Toe, working all joints through their ROM
1.2 Dynamic Warmup - 6 sets of 30 seconds exercise, hitting major muscle groups, joints and the cardio system
1.3 Mobility - Bear Crawls, Inchworm, Cossack Squats, Squat Walks, Shoulder Flye, Renegade Row.
2.0 Technique Warmup; Movement
2.1 Movement - Maintaining perfect stance throughout movement in all ranges.
2.1.1 Advance / Retreat - 1 Minute, forward & back maintaining stance, guard & posture. Eyes Dead ahead.
2.1.2 Lateral - 1 Minute side to side, maintaining stance, guard and posture. Eyes dead ahead.
2.1.3 Circling - As there were a large number of younger boxers I made this into a game.
We all started as a close circle. I shouted change at random intervals to switch directions.
Those slow to react would bump into their nearest teammate and would be disqualified to the centre of the circle to do
situps. I like this and itw worked well. I also have a nice idea as to how I can expand on the idea.
3.0 Technique Warmup; Attack
3.1 Calling the Shots - One boxer in the middle, callas a combination e.g. 1-2-hook.
He/she repeats the combination 10 times, identifying each shot; 1, 2, 3.
Team mates shout “1,2,3…” on the completion of each combination as they emulate the combination themselves
Each combination is repeated 10 times with perfect form before passing on to the next team mate.

***I finished leading the session here and fell in as a dummy to demonstrate technique.
These are not my drills, butI really like some of the simple drills last night and I’ll try remember and share here.

-Slipping Drill
We partnered the boxers up and had Boxer 1 throw a left and then a right.
Boxer 2 first slipped the left, returned to centre and then slipped the right.
The objective was to separate individual slips and prevent slipping through the centreline.
The young boxer I worked with was slipping from the waist and I corrected his footwork, showing him how hard he could throw by doing
so. I guess this was his reward for defending correctly, so we’ll see if he does it correctly next session.

-Countering Drill
Boxer 1 engages attack with a Jab, Straight (1,2)
Boxer 2 responded with a right straight (2) which Boxer 1 slips outside.
Boxer 1 counters with a straight, left hook (2,3)
Boxer 2 responds with a jab (1) which Boxer 1 slips outside
Boxer 1 counters with a left hook, straight (3,2)
Boxer 2 responds with a hook which Boxer 1 evades with the step away.

From an offensive position the sequence is;
1, 2 /slip/ 2, hook /slip/ hook, straight / step away /

I was tasked with doing rounds of pads with the southpaws for this technique.
The first guy is a little special. He has natural talent, flair and clearly loves the sport, he will do well.
The second was a friend and light sparring partner. He has been on a lay off and it was great to see him back. He was very explosive.
The third was a complete raw novice, who reminds me of myself as a child. (That’s not a compliment.)
Socially awkward and not athletic at all, what he did have was that little bit of “Fuck You,” in him that made it my favourite round of the night.
My fourth was a nice local kid who is finally staring to progress. Boxing is not in their family but him and his brother are both training hard and trying their best.

I got caught then doing rounds of pads for all boxers. I enjoyed it and worked with some really nice kids.

My final round I returned to the guy who I started the session with.
He’s the most naturally talented in the bunch, but he doesn’t have the interest. He loves sparring and hurting the other kids, but does not work to better himself.

(This is about to spiral into a bizarre rant on my training philosophies, so by all means stop reading now…)
Coaching is something I enjoy. Like my own coaches were, I am autocratic but nurturing. I coach to help the boxer.
Work can be done for the boxer, only if the boxer is willing to work with you.
I used to enjoy my own coach cracking the whip - you are all alone for long enough in sparring and in fights, so its almost a comfort to have the thinking done for you in the gym.
It is a compliment to have a coach thinking for you and working through rounds with you on the pads.
So its almost an insult when you hold pads and you don’t even hear a snap on the pad - limp punches, not through lack of energy, but through the lack of conviction and ambition.
It’s like a soft handshake… disappointing and almost dismissive of the respectful greeting you have extended.

That’s all really…
One kid with natural ability, athleticism and no conviction.
and
One kid with no co-ordination, no talent and the hunger for more.