@whang here it is
500x16. Don’t nobody whine about depth, they were a bit high but deep enough as far as I’m concerned…
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Talk about devils talking over your shoulder to deadlift lol!
Honestly, I think it’s both. In the session to session process of training the deadlift, the demand forces your back to adapt to being able to handle the weight, which in turn leads to muscle growth/strengthening, which in turn allows you to deadlift more weight more safely. Sure, it won’t build your back to bodybuilding competition stage levels, but I think they just go hand in hand.
But hey, what do I know about building muscle lol. Just a beginner’s point of view
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I think we can all agree that dudes who pull 600 lbs tend to have admirable backs. So, the road to 600 it is!
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One last Justin Harris throwback video from when I was just watching people lift and never had done it myself:
Very @T3hPwnisher style deadlifts and grind, despite his squats being super pretty always.
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I’m going to play devil’s advocate here and say guys who BENCH over 400 lbs and don’t have destroyed shoulders have admirable backs.
Deadlifting just doesn’t require enough work from anything outside your erectors to really make your back look like much. You can look at quite a few guys who pull 550-600 lbs and while they’re not puny, they don’t have that thickness and width you see in someone benching 400 lbs or more without injury.
Maybe if you pulled snatch grip off pins set somewhere between your knee and mid shin and used something like three second eccentrics you’d get some really good back development. But conventional off the floor or pins? I’m really doubtful.
Or you get to the point where you can barbell row 300 lbs for sets of 10 with reasonably strict technique, minimal trunk movement. It’s hard to see how you wouldn’t have an impressive back.
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Aren’t the lats and traps heavily engaged?
Well, supposedly?
Isometrically, not quite taken through a full range of motion for most people. He’s not wrong. But having giant erectors gives a certain sweet ass cobra look that you don’t get elsewhere.
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Engaged, yes. Doing work, not so much.
My experience has been the traps get pulled on with heavy deadlifts, but they’re not moving shit; and while your lats are squeezed and maybe they pull the bar in some, it’s a very small distance.
I say this because I have very, very unimpressive traps and at best respectable lats (but even that is debatable).
Compare deadlifts with being able to squeeze your lats when rowing in all planes and being able to move weight just with the lats, deadlifts don’t even come close. Except, as @flappinit pointed out, for erector development which deadlifts absolutely are very good for provided you do enough of them.
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Gotcha. Thanks
Now I’m curious as to what Activityguy’s back looks like
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He doesn’t seem like the type to indulge a request there, haha.
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Really? Dude’s always seemed very forthcoming. It’s also an n=1 situation. I’d be more interested in say, 20 guys who pull 600+, 20 who bench 400 and whose shoulders still work and 20 who row 300x10 with strict-ish technique
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He has, I’ve just never seen him post anything other than regular lifting videos and the like, his identity is posted on here and seems to have a certain level of professionalism about him that might give him pause to post a physique pic. Maybe I’m wrong. Lot of speculation on my part, and maybe he HAS posted a physique pic, lol. Definitely wasn’t taking a shot at his attitude, he’s always been super helpful, more of a comment on how I see him.
edit: I also wrote ‘appreciate’ when I meant ‘indulge’
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Gotta throw some guys in there who can power clean 405. Cleans get a mean fuckin’ back.
I actually don’t believe that A causes B (big deadlift causes a big back). I think the kind of person who puts in the work to pull 600+ also puts in the work required to have an admirable back.
And F your 400 lb bench. I can’t even bench 300 and stay healthy.
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This I agree with completely.
As soon as I have one, you can be the first to F it
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And you will have it. I apparently get injured by my own bodyweight.
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Two years ago I’d have said, I sure hope so.
After this week’s 330 lbs is the first time I can say with complete confidence, damn right I will.
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Yup, 400lb bench incoming.
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Incline Bench
Overwarmup to 225x2
210 2x8 crisp.
Crossovers
2x10
Y raises, lateral raises
Seated BB OHP
135x10
95x30 ow
Tricep stuff
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How are you doing Y Raises? I’ve been using the cables and putting the pulley low. The hardest part of the movement is probably when my arms are parallel with the ground. I still don’t know the best way to do those.
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