Documentary: The Disappearing Male

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

Take the whole gun thing. Who the fuck needs an automatic weapon?
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Anyone who values freedom and self preservation.

Then you don’t understand history and politics. Democracy doesn’t and can’t last indefinitely. Armed citizenry are the only defence against the totalitarian regime that, by a logical progression must at some stage establish itself. America pays a high price for freedom but it’s a price that must be paid.

‘According to Polybius’ elaboration of the theory (of anacyclosis), the state begins in a form of primitive monarchy. The state will emerge from monarchy under the leadership of an influential and wise king; this represents the emergence of “kingship”. Political power will pass by hereditary succession to the children of the king, who will abuse their authority for their own gain; this represents the degeneration of kingship into “tyranny”. Some of the more influential and powerful men of the state will grow weary of the abuses of tyrants, and will overthrow them; this represents the ascendancy of “aristocracy” (as well as the end of the “rule by the one” and the beginning of the “rule by the few”). Just as the descendants of kings, however, political influence will pass to the descendants of the aristocrats, and these descendants will begin to abuse their power and influence, as the tyrants before them; this represents the decline of aristocracy and the beginning of “oligarchy”. As Polybius explains, the people will by this stage in the political evolution of the state decide to take political matters into their own hands. This point of the cycle sees the emergence of “democracy”, as well as the beginning of “rule by the many”. In the same way that the descendants of kings and aristocrats abused their political status, so too will the descendants of democrats. Accordingly, democracy degenerates into “ochlocracy”, literally, “mob-rule”. During ochlocracy, according to Polybius, the people of the state will become corrupted, and will develop a sense of entitlement and will be conditioned to accept the pandering of demagogues. Eventually, the state will be engulfed in chaos, and the competing claims of demagogues will culminate in a single (sometimes virtuous) demagogue claiming absolute power, bringing the state full-circle back to monarchy.'[/quote]

And while all of this going on, I’ll be skipping along ignorantly blind to all of the tyranny around me. But I’ll be having a helluva time while doing so.

edit: and that’s Polybius’ take on it. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. I don’t think it will, you do think it will.

But then again, you don’t really believe any of this either, do you? If you do, what sort of precautions are you taking, or are you simply laying back, spreading your legs wide open and waiting for it to happen instead of being proactive about things?

Fuck, why wait? Why not just go out to D.C. now and start taking out all the motherfuckers on Capitol Hill that are going to contribute to this horrible eventuality? If you really feel this is going to happen you’re doing yourself and everyone in this country who you care for a serious, serious disservice by not doing something about it. Like Orion said, violence is our answer to everything, right? So get proactive. Or are you a selfish sonofabitch along with a paranoid one? Are you just stockpiling weapons for yourself in preparation for this eventuality? Do you have enough for me if I “see the light”, but not in time to go out and get my own arsenal?[/quote]

“There’s an old saying about those who forget history. I don’t remember it, but it’s good.” -Colbert

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

And while all of this going on, I’ll be skipping along ignorantly blind to all of the tyranny around me. But I’ll be having a helluva time while doing so.[/quote]

Indeed[/quote]

Won’t you be armed with a sub machine gun made from galvanised plumbing pipe or printed on a 3D printer?

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Possibly. What is also possible is that people like Orion are on the side of the gov’t that wants to subjugate the populace.wait for it? Fuck, I consider him a FAR larger threat to my safety than the federal gov’t is.[/quote]

You can blow me and the horse I rode in on and dont think for one second that your inferior BJ skills will not be noticed.

Violence.

Its your answer to everything.
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My “inferior BJ skills” will be noticed by you, eh? Is that your way of saying you’re a fine connoisseur of the male-provided BJ? I knew it.

Look Orion, you live in fear, I don’t. What are you doing to prepare for The Big Day? Just sitting here on your computer typing away is what it looks like. [/quote]

Well, I live in a country with a police force of 30000 and ca more or less all milita army.

I hardly need to know more than how to operate a gun.

You on the other hand…[/quote]

Oh, I think you’ll need to know more than how to operate a gun. Can you field dress a wound? Can you disassemble and reassemble a gun? Own any night vision goggles? Because the guys you’ll be fighting against sure will. What about body armor? Got any of that? You’d be a fool to go into battle without some.

What about explosive devices? Got your hands on any of those? Do you know how to construct an IED on short notice? How’s your throwing arm? Think you can throw a grenade with any accuracy? Do you even have any grenades? How much ammo do you have? Can you make a rudimentary splint for a broken tibia in a pinch? How familiar with the terrain in your neighborhood are you? Can you identify poisonous plants in the wild from ones that are safe to eat? What about water? Do you know where to get some potable water if you run out or the plumbing system is undermined or GASP the Big Bad Gov’t poisons the reservoirs in your area? Are you planing on going it alone, or have you and a group of likeminded individuals been preparing for this together? Are your efforts going to be coordinated? Because the enemies’ most likely will be.

Do you have any supplies stashed elsewhere in case your home is blown up? Because I can tell you right now that if the Big Bad Gov’t is even half as dangerous as you think it is, they are DEFINITELY going to be coming after you, specifically, and they WILL blow up your house. Even if they aren’t, can you really afford to assume this?

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

And while all of this going on, I’ll be skipping along ignorantly blind to all of the tyranny around me. But I’ll be having a helluva time while doing so.[/quote]

Indeed[/quote]

Won’t you be armed with a sub machine gun made from galvanised plumbing pipe or printed on a 3D printer?[/quote]

Mebbe, but he will indeed skip along ignorantly.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

edit: and that’s Polybius’ take on it. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. I don’t think it will, you do think it will.

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That was written over 2000 years ago and everything he said would happen has come to pass in every country on the face of the earth. It’s a continuous and inevitable political cycle.

Absolutely I believe it.

Wouldn’t you like to know…

  1. I don’t live in the US.

  2. I’m not fucking crazy.

No, not right. Violence is to be avoided at almost any cost. Like I said, I’m not crazy.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

edit: and that’s Polybius’ take on it. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. I don’t think it will, you do think it will.

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That was written over 2000 years ago and everything he said would happen has come to pass in every country on the face of the earth. It’s a continuous and inevitable political cycle.

Absolutely I believe it.

Wouldn’t you like to know…

  1. I don’t live in the US.

  2. I’m not fucking crazy.

No, not right. Violence is to be avoided at almost any cost. Like I said, I’m not crazy.[/quote]

You may not be crazy, but you clearly aren’t a strategic thinker either. For instance, when an enemy is entrenching itself in an elevated position above yours, the most imperative thing to do is fucking storm that position before they become fully entrenched and fortify their position. It certainly isn’t to sit there and avoid violence. By sitting there waiting for the inevitability of the shit hitting the fan, you’re doing nothing more than sitting in your little foxhole while the enemy fortifies its position on that hill up there. It may be crazy to storm up that hill and take them on, but it’s suicide to sit there and wait for them to attack, because they WILL attack and they WILL have a huge advantage when they do so.

And just because you don’t live in America doesn’t mean you can’t get here to start your work. Fuck, it’s pretty easy to get your hands on guns in this country, so you won’t even have to risk flying in with any weaponry of your own. Just bring some warm clothing, because winters in the northern Virginia area can be really brutal at times.

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

The shizzle, compared to your drizzle.

With all due respect to your intelligence, you are an ignorant motherfucker that is blind to the world before his very eyes.

I shudder at the thought of how much energy is wasted maintaining that illusion.

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Right?

This is my favourite bit

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

I think the declining rate of violence in the United States is a clear sign of an increase in masculinity,
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The declining rate of violence in the US has to do with legalized abortion. As a direct result of Roe vs Wade, the number of children most at risk for committing crime weren’t born. So basically the people who were supposed to be committing those crimes were never there. Combine this with the fact the average age has increased due to baby boomers reaching retirement and you have a recipe for dramatic crime decrease.

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Seriously?[/quote]

Yes

http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/DonohueLevittTheImpactOfLegalized2001.pdf[/quote]

You love your stats, don’t you, Raj? lol.

How much of a percentage do you think this played a part in the drop in crime? Has it really dropped THAT much? Serious question.[/quote]

I couldn’t give you a percentage but it has dropped dramatically. Go to page 393 in the link above, it’s illustrated in graph form the amount crime has decreased since legalized abortion.

I believe the reason NYC (the abortion capital of the US) returned to being a livable a city largely due Roe v. Wade and mayor Giuliani (sp?) was benefactor of this.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

You may not be crazy, but you clearly aren’t a strategic thinker either. For instance, when an enemy is entrenching itself in an elevated position above yours, the most imperative thing to do is fucking storm that position before they become fully entrenched and fortify their position. It certainly isn’t to sit there and avoid violence. By sitting there waiting for the inevitability of the shit hitting the fan, you’re doing nothing more than sitting in your little foxhole while the enemy fortifies its position on that hill up there. It may be crazy to storm up that hill and take them on, but it’s suicide to sit there and wait for them to attack, because they WILL attack and they WILL have a huge advantage when they do so.

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All true. But as Clausewitz said, ‘War is not an independent phenomenon, but the continuation of politics by different means.’ We’re not at war yet. When my family are physically threatened that will be the time to continue my politics by different means.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

edit: and that’s Polybius’ take on it. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. I don’t think it will, you do think it will.

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That was written over 2000 years ago and everything he said would happen has come to pass in every country on the face of the earth. It’s a continuous and inevitable political cycle.

Absolutely I believe it.

Wouldn’t you like to know…

  1. I don’t live in the US.

  2. I’m not fucking crazy.

No, not right. Violence is to be avoided at almost any cost. Like I said, I’m not crazy.[/quote]

You may not be crazy, but you clearly aren’t a strategic thinker either. For instance, when an enemy is entrenching itself in an elevated position above yours, the most imperative thing to do is fucking storm that position before they become fully entrenched and fortify their position. It certainly isn’t to sit there and avoid violence. By sitting there waiting for the inevitability of the shit hitting the fan, you’re doing nothing more than sitting in your little foxhole while the enemy fortifies its position on that hill up there. It may be crazy to storm up that hill and take them on, but it’s suicide to sit there and wait for them to attack, because they WILL attack and they WILL have a huge advantage when they do so.

And just because you don’t live in America doesn’t mean you can’t get here to start your work. Fuck, it’s pretty easy to get your hands on guns in this country, so you won’t even have to risk flying in with any weaponry of your own. Just bring some warm clothing, because winters in the northern Virginia area can be really brutal at times.[/quote]

Or just surround the hill? And the easiest way to destroy an enemy is destroy their support.

The Soviet Government basically failed right after the Perestroika took effect because it took away the Communist support, the blind following of some of the population. Once a lot of the information about the government got into the hands of the people, the regime no longer had power.

Also, if it’s so easy for a government to destroy a group fighting against them just because the government has better tactics and supplies, then why are the Chechens not obliterated yet in Southwest Russia? I’m just saying that taking out rebels is much harder than you would think. And the whole Nuke thing killing everybody would be a short term solution, but then the entire world would turn their backs on you. The country would then lose all forms of supplies and support, causing even more rebellion and fighting back against the government. And that’s why the Russians haven’t just bombed the Chechens.

Plus, what’s the point of ruling when there is no one to rule? No tyrant would reduce the population to almost zero. That’s why Stalin only got rid of those people who could be “replaced”, i.e. the poor Ukrainian farmers, but still kept other areas of Russia alive (barely, but still alive).

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

And while all of this going on, I’ll be skipping along ignorantly blind to all of the tyranny around me. But I’ll be having a helluva time while doing so.[/quote]

Indeed[/quote]

Won’t you be armed with a sub machine gun made from galvanised plumbing pipe or printed on a 3D printer?[/quote]

Mebbe, but he will indeed skip along ignorantly.

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Can you start a fire without matches in the rain? Are you handy with a shovel? Because you’ll be digging a lot of ditches and foxholes. What about propaganda techniques? Surely you understand the need to sway the hearts and minds of the local populace, right? You’d be a fool to assume they’re already onboard with you. I’m sure you’re familiar with Locke and Smith and Jefferson and all those intellectuals, but have you been being a good potential guerrilla warrior and reading up on Mao and Guevara and Castro and all those guys? Or are you just an intellectual warrior? You’d be a fool to go into battle without a very firm grasp of guerrilla warfare techniques. I wouldn’t count on the Internet being up and available when the shit hits the fan.

How do you feel about terrorism? You’d better feel good about it, because it will be one of your only tactics left when/if things don’t go well on the propaganda front for you. Psychological warfare? Familiar with it? You better be because from what I hear, it’s not a skill that’s easy to learn on the fly.

What about hunting animals? Can you hunt at all? Can you catch animals in the wild without using a gun? Because if you think you’re just going to pull out your AR-15 and shoot some quail or something like that, you’ll only alert the Big Bad Gov’t to your location. Can you dress an animal in the wild without contaminating the meat? What about transportation? How are you going to move your supplies around without anyone noticing? Because if you think you can survive a long, drawn out guerrilla war with just the shit you can carry on your person, you’re sadly mistaken. Ever heard of the Ho Chi Minh Trail?

What’s your number one goal? I hope you aren’t naive enough to think it’s taking over the tyrannical Big Bad Gov’t. Oh no, your number one goal is expropriation, my paranoid, ill-prepared friend. Because by virtue of this very website and all of the drivel you’ve been spewing on it, the Big Bad Gov’t will be very aware of who you are. You will be forced to live in the shadows. You cannot ever return to the bombed out shell that will be your current home. Your “friends” will turn on you and inform the police who you are, what you have and where you might be heading.

What about manual labor and mechanical inclination? Have you ever performed manual labor, or are you one of these soft-palmed bourgeois who can’t survive in the wilderness? Austria can be fucking brutal in the winter from what I hear. How are your mountain-climbing skills? Do you know how to swim? What about fishing without a fancy rod? Know how to do that? What about your gun(s)? Can you even shoot straight? What about currency? Have you stashed plenty of cold, hard cash around, and if not, have you planned for how to get it in case the gov’t appropriates everyone’s bank accounts? What kind of physical shape are you in?

If you haven’t made these sorts of plans you may as well be living in a fantasy land if you think you have ANY chance against the Big Bad Gov’t, whether it’s the local Austrian police or an occupying force like the U.S. You’re a fucking Austrian, not a hardened member of an Iraqi militia or mujahedeen. THOSE guys lived this kind of shit day and night, practically from birth, and while they’ve held out for a long fucking time against a superior enemy in terms of fire power, they’re still dying at a rate of probably 20 or more for every 1 U.S. soldier killed. Are you prepared like they were? For your sake I hope so, otherwise you’re just some dude sitting in front a keyboard who apparently gets off on paranoiac fantasies, not living in the cold, harsh reality of the situation you and SexMachine clearly feel is an inevitability. Better to be one step ahead and proactive instead of reactionary. Washington and Mao and Castro and Guevara and Jesse James and all the other famous guerrilla warriors were proactive. Are you?

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

You may not be crazy, but you clearly aren’t a strategic thinker either. For instance, when an enemy is entrenching itself in an elevated position above yours, the most imperative thing to do is fucking storm that position before they become fully entrenched and fortify their position. It certainly isn’t to sit there and avoid violence. By sitting there waiting for the inevitability of the shit hitting the fan, you’re doing nothing more than sitting in your little foxhole while the enemy fortifies its position on that hill up there. It may be crazy to storm up that hill and take them on, but it’s suicide to sit there and wait for them to attack, because they WILL attack and they WILL have a huge advantage when they do so.

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All true. But as Clausewitz said, ‘War is not an independent phenomenon, but the continuation of politics by different means.’ We’re not at war yet. When my family are physically threatened that will be the time to continue my politics by different means.[/quote]

If what you are describing is as inevitable as you and Polybius claim it is, then you’re all but physically-threatened as it is. And again, you’d be a fool to wait for it to happen. By that time it will be too late for you and your family.

[quote]ukrainian wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

edit: and that’s Polybius’ take on it. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. I don’t think it will, you do think it will.

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That was written over 2000 years ago and everything he said would happen has come to pass in every country on the face of the earth. It’s a continuous and inevitable political cycle.

Absolutely I believe it.

Wouldn’t you like to know…

  1. I don’t live in the US.

  2. I’m not fucking crazy.

No, not right. Violence is to be avoided at almost any cost. Like I said, I’m not crazy.[/quote]

You may not be crazy, but you clearly aren’t a strategic thinker either. For instance, when an enemy is entrenching itself in an elevated position above yours, the most imperative thing to do is fucking storm that position before they become fully entrenched and fortify their position. It certainly isn’t to sit there and avoid violence. By sitting there waiting for the inevitability of the shit hitting the fan, you’re doing nothing more than sitting in your little foxhole while the enemy fortifies its position on that hill up there. It may be crazy to storm up that hill and take them on, but it’s suicide to sit there and wait for them to attack, because they WILL attack and they WILL have a huge advantage when they do so.

And just because you don’t live in America doesn’t mean you can’t get here to start your work. Fuck, it’s pretty easy to get your hands on guns in this country, so you won’t even have to risk flying in with any weaponry of your own. Just bring some warm clothing, because winters in the northern Virginia area can be really brutal at times.[/quote]

Or just surround the hill? And the easiest way to destroy an enemy is destroy their support.

The Soviet Government basically failed right after the Perestroika took effect because it took away the Communist support, the blind following of some of the population. Once a lot of the information about the government got into the hands of the people, the regime no longer had power.

Also, if it’s so easy for a government to destroy a group fighting against them just because the government has better tactics and supplies, then why are the Chechens not obliterated yet in Southwest Russia? I’m just saying that taking out rebels is much harder than you would think. And the whole Nuke thing killing everybody would be a short term solution, but then the entire world would turn their backs on you. The country would then lose all forms of supplies and support, causing even more rebellion and fighting back against the government. And that’s why the Russians haven’t just bombed the Chechens.

Plus, what’s the point of ruling when there is no one to rule? No tyrant would reduce the population to almost zero. That’s why Stalin only got rid of those people who could be “replaced”, i.e. the poor Ukrainian farmers, but still kept other areas of Russia alive (barely, but still alive).
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Are Orion and SexMachine making the same preparations that Chechens have made? Do they live in some dirt poor country, or are they a part of the bourgeois and totally unprepared to live the life of the common guerrilla soldier? I totally agree, it isn’t impossible at all to stand up to a superior enemy, but are they really taking the necessary precautions to prepare for this? Because if they aren’t then it IS going to be a cakewalk for the Big Bad Gov’t. And of course, this is all assuming that the Big Bad Gov’t finally abandons this bullshit limited warfare doctrine and just sacks up and resorts to tactical nuke strikes. After all, if the shit goes down in THIS country, here in America, who the fuck is going to stop us from using our nukes? Britain? Yeah, right. They’ll be backing us up in all likelihood. China? Fuck no, they’ll just sit back and pick up all the pieces, assuming they aren’t backing the Big Bad Gov’t and the Brits as well. Russia? Fuck no. They probably can’t even deliver half of their arsenal and they might not give a shit either.

@Ukrainian: keep in mind that Stalin wasn’t taking out a heavily-armed populace like the U.S. is. Pol Pot tried to wipe out all of his enemies and he actually came shockingly close. That crazy fuck wiped out more than 20% of the entire Cambodian population before he was stopped. If the shit hits the fan, is it really smart to depend on the unwillingness of the Big Bad Gov’t to kill everyone who opposes it? Of course not. And the fact is that if the Big Bad Gov’t DOES flip the fuck out and try to take over everything to the point where owning all of these guns and whatnot really is warranted, they’d be fools to NOT wipe everyone out who stands in their way. After all, if you ask crazy fuckers like SexMachine and Orion what is going to motivate the Big Bad Gov’t to take the Big Step, it won’t be out of concern for maintaining the wealth of this country. According to them, the Big Bad Gov’t is already actively trying to undermine the entire monetary system of the country and all the wealth that comes with it. What would they care if they wiped out all the sources of revenue for it?

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

If what you are describing is as inevitable as you and Polybius claim it is, then you’re all but physically-threatened as it is. And again, you’d be a fool to wait for it to happen. By that time it will be too late for you and your family. [/quote]

I’m not waiting. I’m engaged in the political process. The political process has thankfully, not broken down yet.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

What about explosive devices? Got your hands on any of those? Do you know how to construct an IED on short notice? Do you even have any grenades? [/quote]

If orion DID have those things/skills, it might be an idea for him not to talk about it on the internet. Just saying.

Wtf? To hell with all the gun control arguing. Let’s return to the original topic of how to stop my hormones from being fucked with when everything in my apartment from my shampoo to my couch is made of pure estrogen.

In the event of a government takeover, all the automatic weaponry in the world isn’t going to help me if I’m unable to focus on shooting people because I’m too busy worrying about how my sperm count is being cut in half by all the space chemicals in my toothbrush.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

Are Orion and SexMachine making the same preparations that Chechens have made? Do they live in some dirt poor country, or they a part of the bourgeois and totally unprepared to live the life of the common guerrilla soldier.[/quote]

I’m sure when the shit hits the fan that people ‘unprepared for the life of a common guerrilla soldier’ would still prefer to be armed for self preservation and protection of their families and property than to be unarmed.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

If what you are describing is as inevitable as you and Polybius claim it is, then you’re all but physically-threatened as it is. And again, you’d be a fool to wait for it to happen. By that time it will be too late for you and your family. [/quote]

I’m not waiting. I’m engaged in the political process. The political process has thankfully, not broken down yet.[/quote]

Yes, but are you prepared for when/if it does break down? The skills I listed in my last two posts to Orion aren’t easily acquired. They take YEARS to acquire and become familiar with. Have you started the process? What about your family? Do you have a wife and/or children? Are your children old enough to handle a gun and fight for themselves? It would be nice to ship them off to the Orient or something like that so they avoid all the bloodshed, but let’s face it, a man in the position you could very well find yourself in cannot afford to send off able-bodied people of any kind.

Are you preparing your children, if you have any? Let’s assume that if you don’t have any now, you will have one/some by the time the shit goes down, because it WILL go down, right? History has shown us that the changes Polybius has described virtually never happen strictly within the political system. Are you prepared for extra-political action? Are you prepared to bring your sons and/or daughters into the fight with you? The Vietcong and the NVA had many, many women taking up arms and fighting as well, young and old alike.

Are you enrolling your children in some sort of martial arts classes? Are they skilled at hand-to-hand combat? Are they taking shooting classes? Ever take them camping? Are you prepared to send them to their certain death so that others may live?

I understand that you’re engaged in the political process and I commend you for it. I wish there were more people in THIS country who had that sort of commitment to enacting change through the political system. But if what you are describing and what Polybius claims is an inevitability, you would be an absolute FOOL to assume that you can enact meaningful change strictly within it. Are you making the preparations I described to Orion JUST IN CASE?

Because if you aren’t, you’re fucked.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

What about explosive devices? Got your hands on any of those? Do you know how to construct an IED on short notice? Do you even have any grenades? [/quote]

If orion DID have those things/skills, it might be an idea for him not to talk about it on the internet. Just saying.[/quote]

Sure, of course. But he can certainly verify whether he’s taken a lot of the other precautions I described. Fuck, I wonder if he’s even given thought to these precautions, let alone started preparing for the worst. If he hasn’t then even I’M more prepared for the shit than he is.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

Are Orion and SexMachine making the same preparations that Chechens have made? Do they live in some dirt poor country, or they a part of the bourgeois and totally unprepared to live the life of the common guerrilla soldier. I totally agree, it isn’t impossible at all to stand up to a superior enemy, but are they really taking the necessary precautions to prepare for this? Because if they aren’t then it IS going to be a cakewalk for the Big Bad Gov’t. And of course, this is all assuming that the Big Bad Gov’t finally abandons this bullshit limited warfare doctrine and just sacks up and resorts to tactical nuke strikes. After all, if the shit goes down in THIS country, here in America, who the fuck is going to stop us from using our nukes? Britain? Yeah, right. They’ll be backing us up in all likelihood. China? Fuck no, they’ll just sit back and pick up all the pieces, assuming they aren’t backing the Big Bad Gov’t and the Brits as well. Russia? Fuck no. They probably can’t even deliver half of their arsenal and they might not give a shit either.[/quote]

Fair enough, but what about trade? The United States is now a service country and depends on trade.

But this discussion will delve into way too many details. I would rather not waste my time discussing this. I can’t just let a discussion go if some responds to me, even on the internet. So, I shall just say (as already said), let’s continue the discussion about masculinity, males, and stuff.

Personally, I think the true quality a lot of men are lacking nowadays is account of responsibility and actions. Less people now take responsibility for their actions and their circumstances.