It goes so much deeper than video games and ‘chemical castration’. This is something that’s been going on for decades.
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
It goes so much deeper than video games and ‘chemical castration’. This is something that’s been going on for decades. [/quote]
Honestly though the video had its intended effect of inducing paranoia in myself at least. I feel like making an endocrinologist appointment tomorrow lol.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Video games [/quote]
No, just no. Easy ‘go-to’ target response to every social issue there is. And it is wrong almost as often as it is blamed.
[quote]and the general `domestication’ of men
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What do you mean by this? Can you give more detail.
I’m not asking you to “bother” with anything - you’re just shooting the messenger here i.e. I’m only relaying what I’ve heard and read.
But your above posts in this thread do smell of beta-bitch insecurity. C’mon dude it’s okay if you like playing video games, it doesn’t mean you’re becoming more feminine than anyone else and no one is trying to judge you like that either.
We are making generalisations here. Video games (in current form), personal computers and (most importantly) the internet are innovations that weren’t available to our fathers and grand-fathers and while they may have immeasurable usefulness in how we live are lives today, they do represent components partially explaining the trend toward declining socialisation behaviours in men (and people in general)
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
It goes so much deeper than video games and ‘chemical castration’. This is something that’s been going on for decades. [/quote]
Honestly though the video had its intended effect of inducing paranoia in myself at least. I feel like making an endocrinologist appointment tomorrow lol.[/quote]
Fuck endo’s. Just fuck them.
You’re better off with a “old-school” PCP who is willing to listen to you and treat you like a human rather than a number generating payments.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I’m not asking you to “bother” with anything - you’re just shooting the messenger here i.e. I’m only relaying what I’ve heard and read.
But your above posts in this thread do smell of beta-bitch insecurity. C’mon dude it’s okay if you like playing video games, it doesn’t mean you’re becoming more feminine than anyone else and no one is trying to judge you like that either.
We are making generalisations here. Video games (in current form), personal computers and (most importantly) the internet are innovations that weren’t available to our fathers and grand-fathers and while they may have immeasurable usefulness in how we live are lives today, they do represent components partially explaining the trend toward declining socialisation behaviours in men (and people in general)[/quote]
You are drawing connections between social interaction and masculinity that aren’t there.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
But your above posts in this thread do smell of beta-bitch insecurity.[/quote]
LOL. What does that even mean?
And who are you to say there are no connections?
Question me for the validity of that connection but don’t say that it doesn’t exist - you’re not an expert in anything.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
And who are you to say there are no connections?
Question me for the validity of that connection but don’t say that it doesn’t exist - you’re not an expert in anything.
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I’m more of an expert on it than you are.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
But your above posts in this thread do smell of beta-bitch insecurity.[/quote]
LOL. What does that even mean?[/quote]
It means part of the problem is the fact that perception of what a “man” is has become so perverted that a large part of ‘fixing’ this is finding out ‘what is a man’ in the first place, all over again.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
But your above posts in this thread do smell of beta-bitch insecurity.[/quote]
LOL. What does that even mean?[/quote]
You obviously play video games, which is why you went straight into defensive mode about my video games post, even taking it out of the context I intended.
The actual content of video games are not a problem but the behaviour of choosing to allocate time to that activity may be taking away from social interaction, which is a partial reason for the described deprecation of masculinity in men.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
And who are you to say there are no connections?
Question me for the validity of that connection but don’t say that it doesn’t exist - you’re not an expert in anything.
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lol
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
But your above posts in this thread do smell of beta-bitch insecurity.[/quote]
LOL. What does that even mean?[/quote]
You obviously play video games, which is why you went straight into defensive mode about my video games post, even taking it out of the context I intended.
The actual content of video games are not a problem but the behaviour of choosing to allocate time to that activity may be taking away from social interaction, which is a partial reason for the described deprecation of masculinity in men.[/quote]
Well not much anymore, but I sure did growing up. I put them in the context most people ascribe which is that they make kids more violent. I thought it was funny that you thought they made them pussies. I really hate it when people try to scapegoat video games. It just seems ridiculous.
Anyway…
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
the general `domestication’ of men are other contributing factor.
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Again, please go into more detail as to what you mean here.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Considering how long men have been around, the number of men deadlifting heavy is at its most numerous than its ever been.
As long as the deadlift exists, men shall reign supreme.[/quote]
The problem I see today is that being a male does not mean you will become a man. [/quote]
Because every man born over the ages gone by weren’t a piece of shit?
Just because it is modern day doesn’t mean men are any less, they just changed to the surroundings.
You can say the Romans were utter pussies in their robes and raging homosexuals when participating in Roman orgies.
Doesn’t mean they were any less a man or a ‘real’ man to start with.
A man cannot truly be a man if he is a gutless, spineless coward who hides behind lies, other people (success or protection) and relies on deceit.
Metrosexual-ism is just a mis-guided hipster movement fueled by feminism. If these men want to look like Zyzz but treat women like shit then so be it. You cannot stop them but you can make fun of them.
[quote]csulli wrote:
It just seems ridiculous.[/quote]
Your mother must have washed your mouth out with soap at 10 years old for you to have the emotional scarring you show due to your video game playing.
My theory of it is that, among other things, we have to do less to survive nowadays
These days a fully grown man can earn a better living as say an interior designer than he could as a mechanic or a farmer. This obviously wouldn’t have been the case a thousand or even a hundred years ago. A hundred years ago you would have needed a pliable trade to earn a living, most of which would have required you to work with your hands. These days you can do far more than just survive sat behind a desk.
We live in such a disposable society where everyone feels they are entitled to something.
I was born in the wrong century
Besides the fact I meant to say “everything” instead of “anything,” you know you just said that social interaction and masculinity aren’t related right?
Your job in this thread is easy - you’re just rebuking everything I’m saying without the same effort of reasoning I’m using. Can you at least say something on the topic, whether it be about the OP or where I helped take this thread?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Anyway…
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
the general `domestication’ of men are other contributing factor.
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Again, please go into more detail as to what you mean here.[/quote]
You know what I mean - there’s been a bunch of threads in GAL about authors talking about the subject.
[quote]lemony2j wrote:
My theory of it is that, among other things, we have to do less to survive nowadays
These days a fully grown man can earn a better living as say an interior designer than he could as a mechanic or a farmer. This obviously wouldn’t have been the case a thousand or even a hundred years ago. A hundred years ago you would have needed a pliable trade to earn a living, most of which would have required you to work with your hands. These days you can do far more than just survive sat behind a desk.
We live in such a disposable society where everyone feels they are entitled to something.
I was born in the wrong century[/quote]
Not sure why you would think that–just because your muscle was more functional doesn’t mean it was more valuable. Men have always been far more disposable, especially the working class, than they are today [orion–there you go cannon fodder 
].
You folks who long for yesteryear have a distorted and romanticized view of history that was only kind to the most privileged.