Stop this before you get osteoporosis!
This doctor needs to be given the same dose of anastrozole, so he can see the damage it’s going to do!
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You’re on 3 different estrogen inhibitors? I’m trying not to go the AI route and rather do more frequent T injections. How long have you been on this new protocol?
3 months now. Last test t was at 600 and Estrogen was at 360.
Unreal, not only are you crushing estrogen metabolism but you are also blocking the estrogen receptors. It would be a miracle if you somehow avoid getting osteoporosis.
Yea I’m by no means an expert and just learning here but everything I’ve read about AIs is that unless very carefully administered can be really damaging. I’m very hesitant to start them, my doctor wants me to try but I would go to daily injections before going to AIs.
So how else am I supposed to avoid the side effects of converting to estrogen? My estrogen was well over 300.
Usually more frequent injections can help reduce aromatization. How often are you injecting T?
Your test dose is too high. And post your blood work if you’d be so kind.
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300 what? And is that maybe total estrogen and not estradiol?
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No it was not. Your idiot doc is likely measuring total estrogens and not the estradiol sensitive assay. I’d run from this guy if I was you.
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You’re essentially destroying your body. Your doc should lose his license for this.
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I don’t get how these doctors get returning patients. On the other hand, my doctor told me recently that she had a guy with a non-detectable E2 and was feeling great. She had to convince him to lower his AI dose and he was reluctant to do so because he was feeling so good. Only when she told him he risked osteoporosis was he willing to change.
Now for me, crashed estrogen means I lose all libido. But it does take away my life long social anxiety. Hormones are freaking weird.
I’ll get my last blood results from the doc this weekend and post a new thread and would like to see your suggestions and ideas. I’m always open to seeing how to improve.
To piggyback off what Danny said, measuring total estrogens is a wildly inaccurate way of gauging anything. In fact, having high total estrogens can even mean you have low e2, which would be made worse by arimidex.
An example of this from the world of illicit steroid use (where we dumb meatheads know infinitely more than most doctors): boldenone is a popular steroid but causes odd effects. Even though it should aromatize it ends up crashing e2 for a lot of guys. Why? Well, it raises e1 (esterone) to obscene levels. E1 aromatization means the substrate through which estradiol would be converted from testosterone is now effectively used up. The substrate is the highway and e1 is a bunch of semis blocking the road. Nothing else gets through. So if you measure total estrogens while using boldenone you’d get a very high number. But measure e2 and it’ll be in the gutter.
Your doctor should know what blood tests to order. That’s like the absolute minimum level of competency for a physician. Again, us dumb meatheads know this but the guy who spent $200,000 on medical school doesn’t.
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When I met my own doc, he and all his trt patients were applying chrysin cream RECTALLY as a ‘natural way’ of controlling aromatization. He needed a bit of work 
. Needless to say he stopped doing that, stopped being afraid of higher levels of testosterone , and lo and behold everyone including him are doing much better.
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Pity that we’re all just dumb meatheads… If only we went to medical school…
I’m actually quite content that I never went to medical school for all the reasons you just explained. A diploma doesn’t mean much to me anymore.
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If only. I think I’ve already told you the stories of my MD in-laws that don’t exactly see eye to eye with me on much hormone related.