Just another one of my little polls…no pun intended lol 
How many of us sincerely worry about the consequences our steroid use may be having on our bodies long term?
I’m not talking about needing to go on TRT. More so real health concerns.
I, personally, am a major worry wart and freak myself out on a daily basis lol.
I’m curious to hear all of your thoughts and concerns.
It would also help if you gave an idea of your protocols…do you come off? Blast and cruise? What do you run? What doses…etc?
I Blast and Cruise. Blast run 16weeks cruise 4-6 weeks.
Have absolutely zero plans of ever coming off I will run til I die whether that’s at 30,40, or 100. With that being said I do take all precautions I need based off of routine blood work. Am currently on blood pressure meds (runs in family but, really elevated with high Test) . I am on Lipitor for cholesterol( levels have only recently elevated Tren is only variable). I also give blood weekly which has really helped with blood pressure as well. Get x-ray of liver and other organs every 6 months and blood work every 3 at the latest. Also take Milk Thistle daily as Lipitor can have a pretty hard effect on the Liver. I want to be as strong as I possibly can and I try to keep all levels as normal as possible not so much because of my health but, because of I am dead I can’t keep breaking PRs.
As for gear ran. Test is a staple 1000mg atleast on Blast 500mg on Cruise. Basically alternate between Tren (500-700mg) one Blast and Deca and EQ (500/500) the next. Have recently 2 months ago introduced GH at 2iu 5 days a week really liking the effect. Have ran Dbol, Halo, Drol, Anavar, and Tbol but, no longer run any orals at all except last 4-6 weeks of meet except Halo at 30mg once a week on Squat Days.
I dont worry about it at all. Since i started taking lifting/physical fitness as a whole seriously I’ve started eating way more healthy and no longer drink like a fish.
I figure i can pump my body full of about any drug i want and still be better off than i was a few years back.
I also see articles all the time about all the chemicals used on our foods. I have zero evidence to back this up but id be willing to be those are doing more harm to us than a few grams of test
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[quote]Ned wrote:
I dont worry about it at all. Since i started taking lifting/physical fitness as a whole seriously I’ve started eating way more healthy and no longer drink like a fish.
I figure i can pump my body full of about any drug i want and still be better off than i was a few years back.
I also see articles all the time about all the chemicals used on our foods. I have zero evidence to back this up but id be willing to be those are doing more harm to us than a few grams of test
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True about the drinking thing…but it was kinda just replacing one bad habbit with another no?
As far as the “chemicals in our food” part…you can’t seriously think that what EVERYONE eats EVERYDAY is doing more harm to your body than 2+ grams a week lol?
[quote]Mennotinblack wrote:
No[/quote]
You said you don’t take steroids…so wtf are you talking about lol?
I am not on but I have considered it. I am over 40 YO. I figure I have, at best, 40, maybe 45 more to look forward to anyway. What seems to be the general consensus on how long it takes for serious negative side effects to set in? Assuming that there are any if taken in reasonable amounts.
[quote]OldOgre wrote:
I am not on but I have considered it. I am over 40 YO. I figure I have, at best, 40, maybe 45 more to look forward to anyway. What seems to be the general consensus on how long it takes for serious negative side effects to set in? Assuming that there are any if taken in reasonable amounts.[/quote]
Too many variables to consider. Dose, prior health problems, doses, compounds used, etc.
You know how some people smoke for 60 years and don’t get lung cancer, and then some poor guy who’s never smoked a day in his life gets lung cancer out of the blue…I would imagine the same scenario could happen with AAS.
Was just sarcasm. I mean let me phrase it this way. Everyone on this forum realistically is concerned at some level. I was obviously concerned about my old peohormone use. I think Gh and GH guts are the reason for most bodybuilders problems. If i do ever cycle, ill never exceed a gram of test. But then again, i wouldnt ever compete. I find jays physique aleight, but ronnie is digusting (flame me). Arnold is my idol and the physique i strive for. No more, no less.
IMO you are right to be worried about your health when using drugs. I think bloodwork can not always tell you the full story, juiceheads here (me one of them) would argue with me when I say whenever doing anything unnatural (AAS use in this instance) there will always be health consequences ranging from minor ailments like Acne to severe like infertility and atherosclerosis.
With that being said, everyone here will argue that there are risks with every drug even paracetamol but all can be avoided with proper use but when AAS is concerned, “proper use” usually means covering the sides with other drugs.
SB
[quote]Mennotinblack wrote:
Was just sarcasm. I mean let me phrase it this way. Everyone on this forum realistically is concerned at some level. I was obviously concerned about my old peohormone use. I think Gh and GH guts are the reason for most bodybuilders problems. If i do ever cycle, ill never exceed a gram of test. But then again, i wouldnt ever compete. I find jays physique aleight, but ronnie is digusting (flame me). Arnold is my idol and the physique i strive for. No more, no less.[/quote]
Lol. I actually tho.k jay looks like a bag of shit too lol.
And I don’t think its really the GH gut that is the biggest concern when using slin, GH, igf, etc…but rather an enlarged heart.
I believe bauber and walkaway will contribute the best here, since they both hang out with pros who use INASANE amount of drugs, in my mind at least. Anyway, I have asthma and a little bit closed aorta. So, I have some concerns, but nothing too major. Once I decide to be on year round ( in a few months probably), I am going to take all the precautions I can, so I don’t end like Zyzz. I know that people like me should not use steroids at all, but I really don’t care. Probably because I am not even 21 years old yet. Who knows, only time will tell.
This is a concern on any AAS, and a particular concern of mine.
I smoke (perhaps not forever), take stims out the wazzoo, and plan on many more years of AAS use as well. It feels sometimes like I pump syrup through my veins and my aorta is going to burst like a rotted garden hose long before I see my unborn children grow up. The thought saddens me sometimes and perhaps at some point when I’m no longer in my 20’s and immortal I may reconsider my life and my decisions.
I think at some point we make a conscious choice to sacrifice health and longevity for the sake of fun and excitement only to later lament at our own foolishness when the time comes to pay the reaper.
@ Ironman: Great topic, I love looking at the pros and cons and peoples attitudes towards…
[quote]brandon76 wrote:
@ Ironman: Great topic, I love looking at the pros and cons and peoples attitudes towards…[/quote]
Thanks…that’s what I was hoping for
damn I thought I was the only worry wort out there, good to know its not just me. I’m just on trt and haven’t even done a blast yet but am about to add some npp to my trt for 6 weeks and am worried about just that. Every time I get bloodwork I’ll research the shit out of every result and if my result in a certain blood test is not optimal or a point out of range I’ll start freaking out, stupid I know, but I just want to be at my best.
I am starting to worry less and less though and just go by how I’m feeling, most lab ranges are bs anyway. I think it is actually a good thing to worry and be concerned about your health but only to a certain extent.
I do worry to an extent. I now take more care of myself with vitamins, no more drinking, and routine bloods and doctor visits. Gonna be b/c’n from now on and have found a doc to monitor me and to work with me.
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I do worry to an extent. I now take more care of myself with vitamins, no more drinking, and routine bloods and doctor visits. Gonna be b/c’n from now on and have found a doc to monitor me and to work with me.[/quote]
When you say work with you, do you mean with trt or that he knows you take other things and is willing to work with you. If its the second one I need to find a doc like that
I worry but not so much, as really, there is so little research done on AAS users that we go on bro science and “feel”. I eat super well and use many supplements for a healthy heart as I do think it’s the #1 issue facing us.
[quote]Reed wrote:
I Blast and Cruise. Blast run 16weeks cruise 4-6 weeks.
Am currently on blood pressure meds (runs in family but, really elevated with high Test) . I am on Lipitor for cholesterol( levels have only recently elevated Tren is only variable). I also give blood weekly which has really helped with blood pressure as well. Get x-ray of liver and other organs every 6 months and blood work every 3 at the latest.
As for gear ran. Test is a staple 1000mg atleast on Blast 500mg on Cruise. [/quote]
X-Rays and scans ARE dangerous in themselves and should NOT be overdone! As for Lipitor, yeah it reduces cholesterol but does it protect you from heart attacks? It’s great you want to protect yourself but I’m not sure about your methods. And cruises at 500mg a week ain’t a cruise! Anyway, your call, so I don’t want to get preachy, but cruise at TRT levels once in a while…
[quote]SwD wrote:
I worry but not so much, as really, there is so little research done on AAS users that we go on bro science and “feel”. I eat super well and use many supplements for a healthy heart as I do think it’s the #1 issue facing us.
[quote]Reed wrote:
I Blast and Cruise. Blast run 16weeks cruise 4-6 weeks.
Am currently on blood pressure meds (runs in family but, really elevated with high Test) . I am on Lipitor for cholesterol( levels have only recently elevated Tren is only variable). I also give blood weekly which has really helped with blood pressure as well. Get x-ray of liver and other organs every 6 months and blood work every 3 at the latest.
As for gear ran. Test is a staple 1000mg atleast on Blast 500mg on Cruise. [/quote]
X-Rays and scans ARE dangerous in themselves and should NOT be overdone! As for Lipitor, yeah it reduces cholesterol but does it protect you from heart attacks? It’s great you want to protect yourself but I’m not sure about your methods. And cruises at 500mg a week ain’t a cruise! Anyway, your call, so I don’t want to get preachy, but cruise at TRT levels once in a while…[/quote]
I think by “x-rays” he means ultrasounds… and yes statins are terrible drugs.
im not too concerned about consequences of my drug use though.