Do You Still Believe in the United States?

This is $97k per year, electricians do get overtime which pushes over the threshold.

They do, and they are.

I feel like I introduced an unintentional wormhole of proving exactly how much house a southern CA electrician can afford via the singular example I made to your “you can’t buy a house in S. CA for under a mil” comment.

You can. Significantly under. And significantly under $500k, the high filter, as well. I’m sure you’d find a way to shoot down every one of the 15k currently available homes to win an internet debate but your statement is flat out incorrect. Go to Zillow. Choose southern CA towns, add the filter. You’re welcome.

As I’m posting this it’s peak rush hour over there. I checked again. 1 hour 32 minutes.

Go buy your house. Sorry it’s not hilltop in Malibu. It wouldn’t have been in 1960 either.

Victorville to LAX right now (which is reverse commute)… 2hrs 56 mins.

You live in Texas, right?

I do live in Texas. I’m looking at a GPS system in real time that uses pretty accurate satellites.

Are there jobs in Victorville? Or somewhere between LAX and Victorville? Is every home west of Victorville $1m? I don’t think there is value in an “uphill in the snow both ways” scenario to nitpick one singular example.

I’ve found that when people say homes are unaffordable in Southern California they generally are referring to relatively small areas of Southern California. And some easy searches have proven this out.

Wow really? That’s awesome dude.

Say…ever hear of a company called Rosendin?

If a 4-6hr RT daily commute is your thing, sure.

So to be clear all of the jobs in Southern California are within LAX? And your commute is pretty common in Texas suburbs too so I’m still having a hard time being sympathetic.

Idk, I don’t live there. Neither do you. But Otay apparently does. So you keep telling him how you know more about his situation than him.

It’s obvious you lack sympathy. You are correct, shitty living situations exist in Texas, just like they do in socal. People just expect and accept that more in Texas, I guess.

Don’t worry bout @Njord he’s just some pseudo-intellectual

On a fucking weightlifting/bodybuilding forum lmao.

2,700 sq ft seems a little extreme.
I can see a use for 4 bedrooms.
But 4 bathrooms??!! The only need for that is if the whole household came down with diarrhea at the same time. How does this family stay in hotels without needing 4 rooms?

But I do like the 3 car garage. A 4 car garage would be better.

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I’m looking at a real time update with GPS precision. Something else they didn’t have in the 60’s! I can check traffic with pretty high accuracy in Hong Kong, London, Paris….

To the greater point, do all jobs in southern CA exist within LAX? Or are we down a one-off rabbit hole ignoring a broader picture?

We just don’t bitch and moan about not owning Malibu waterfront property on a $43 per hour income. We are more of a roll your sleeves up and earn it culture, or whatever it is you’re wanting, vs seeking unearned entitlement and commiserating bygone eras without making the choices to live the way they did.

I’ve seen your log :wink:

Enjoy the show

It’s not bad.

I did and I’ll up you with Lucchese. But the real handmade Lucchese, not their new mass produced lines.

I remember seeing Mitt Romney in some rich guy’s house and he said how Democrats want Americans to become homeowners but he, as a Republican, wants Americans to afford homes like the one he was in.

It’s obvious (or maybe it isn’t) that that is an impossibility. The average American will not be buying a home worth several million dollars. But why say it? Why tell voters you want everyone to be rich so they support your policies that you claim will make everyone wealthy? And maybe most of us here can see it’s BS pandering or just straight up lying, but again, he still said it. These people promise the impossible because they don’t want to deliver the possible. They’ve gone from promising the American Dream to promising a fantasy. MAGA is the current name for it. It must be working. It’s important to remember the government sees us as voters during election seasons and consumers the rest of the time.

I don’t know. I always saw Romney as slimy and disconnected with a fake persona. I don’t remember him being well received.

Maybe the alligator skin ones because of the amount of materials needed. But Testoni’s are in another league, like 30k and up.

Yeah that’s expensive.

Some of luccheses special releases and commemorative boots can approach $20k, and they’ll take custom orders where the sky is the limit, but their production lines cap around $5k or so.

My point is, it’s easy to criticize what are at times unrealistic expectations and a sense of entitlement from Americans, but who is planting that seed? Americans have been programmed to believe that they are supposed to have certain things, like a home, and feel like losers if they don’t.

If they’re making them, someone’s buying them.