[quote]hoosegow wrote:
I’ve actually fucked a couple of them.[/quote]hahaha
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
Ok, here goes my second contribution.
My friend and I have seen some weird stuff. He has seen more, but I don’t feel like telling his stories as they are exactly that, his stories. Still, there was one at his house that happened to me, but I do need to go a little back. On New Years, we decided, along with one more person, to watch some ghost videos to scare ourselves in the middle of the night. This habit continued.
So, we were in my friends house (the one that has had weird shit happen to him), and we watched this one movie on YouTube. Yes, I know; it’s YouTube. How real could it be? The video we watched with one person panting and panning around the room. This seemed to be in Eastern Asia (some weird shit goes on there). The camera turns to face a window, turns away from it, then starts turning back. At first, it’s just a window with blinds. Then, all of a sudden, there was a demon girl. The camera drops, and some freaking noises started. My friend and I could not watch that video any longer so we turned it off.
After that night, that’s when everything weird started to happen. On the night of the Super Bowl (maybe it was foreshadowing that even weirder shit was going to happen-the Giants winning). It all started with me. We were eating dorritos, but I got sick of them and put them on the opposite corner of the table from my chair. I got up and drank some water. I sat down. No one moved. All of a sudden, I get up and see a bunch of dorritos on my lap. Yes, comical, but it was some weird shit. Then, the same friend saw a face in a mirror. Just a face.
I know it’s nothing compared to some of the other stuff here, and I know I will be laughed at for the Dorritos thing, but it was some weird shit.[/quote]
and three days later, some wet japanese chick climbed out of the TV?
Link, please.
Not a fake. Believe what you will.
[quote]Gerg wrote:
ukrainian wrote:
Ok, here goes my second contribution.
My friend and I have seen some weird stuff. He has seen more, but I don’t feel like telling his stories as they are exactly that, his stories. Still, there was one at his house that happened to me, but I do need to go a little back. On New Years, we decided, along with one more person, to watch some ghost videos to scare ourselves in the middle of the night. This habit continued.
So, we were in my friends house (the one that has had weird shit happen to him), and we watched this one movie on YouTube. Yes, I know; it’s YouTube. How real could it be? The video we watched with one person panting and panning around the room. This seemed to be in Eastern Asia (some weird shit goes on there). The camera turns to face a window, turns away from it, then starts turning back. At first, it’s just a window with blinds. Then, all of a sudden, there was a demon girl. The camera drops, and some freaking noises started. My friend and I could not watch that video any longer so we turned it off.
After that night, that’s when everything weird started to happen. On the night of the Super Bowl (maybe it was foreshadowing that even weirder shit was going to happen-the Giants winning). It all started with me. We were eating dorritos, but I got sick of them and put them on the opposite corner of the table from my chair. I got up and drank some water. I sat down. No one moved. All of a sudden, I get up and see a bunch of dorritos on my lap. Yes, comical, but it was some weird shit. Then, the same friend saw a face in a mirror. Just a face.
I know it’s nothing compared to some of the other stuff here, and I know I will be laughed at for the Dorritos thing, but it was some weird shit.
and three days later, some wet japanese chick climbed out of the TV?
Link, please.[/quote]
I don’t know if I will find it again. I don’t even think I want to see it again.
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Not a fake. Believe what you will.[/quote]
… A light of some kind. Humans are designed to see faces, and anything that even looks remotely like a face will get recognized very quickly. Go outside and look at some Stucco on the side of your house and just look at how many faces show up. Is this creepy? No, its perfectly normal.
[quote]Gerg wrote:
I have never seen a ghost. But I find it interesting that people talk about theoretical higher dimensions, time travel being possible, worm holes, etc. and no one looks at them like they are crazy. But you mention the idea of a Ghost and you’re nuts.[/quote] That is because scientists are talking about theoretical stuff… As in “We dont accept this as fact because there isnt enough evidence for it yet.”
Wrong. Science is science. Magic is magic. I will most certainly grant you there are explanations for things we dont understand, that is why scientists still have jobs.
[quote]Everyone has to come up with an answer for themselves; but everything, including science, spirituality, and aetheism, boils down to the same thing: this is what I beleive with the information I have and I hope I’m right. The only wrong choice is to not allow yourself to be open to new information.
(steps off soapbox)[/quote]
Science is not a belief system, it is a method of discovery. Science eliminates the middle man (human error) as much as possible, and for this reason you do not need to “hope you are right.” We did not “hope” we would hit the moon when we sent a ship to it, we landed on it exactly where we thought we would. No guess work.
There is more than one wrong choice. Of course being open to any and all possibilities is good. However, when something is so far removed from the real world as to be false, and you still accept it as real, then you are wrong.
Why dont any skeptics ever get haunted by ghosts or abducted by aliens?
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
No ghosts.
No religion.
No god.
I know a few dead people who said they would come back to kick my ass. My mother, father and brother.
I’m still waiting.[/quote]
Houdini, who actually made a second career out of debunking sceances and “psychics” said that if anyone could cross over from the other side, he would do it. Every year on his birthday, mainly in the spirit of his memory and good fun, they hold a sceance to channel him… Never has he been contacted.
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Are you even aware that everytime you walk around or simply stand or sit or whatever, you are immersed in countable but massive number of spiritual presences, many of which are “blind” to your presence, some of which choose not to make their presence felt to you?
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How do you justify making a statement like this? What is your evidence?
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
What’s the deal with ouija boards. AFter my experience how I feel about the supernatural or even religion has been turned upside down.This happened almost two years ago and I still don’t know how I feel about it. Given that it wasn’t purely coincidence does it prove to me the existance of demons or similar entities?
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Look up the “Idiomotor Effect.”
[quote]Tumbles wrote:
I think it’s interesting to read about infrasound as a possible explanation for some of these kind of things.[/quote]
I’m very surprised someone else has heard about this. I think the book Quirkology has an interesting chapter on it about the topic. Long story short, they used infrasound to give people the" feeling" of having a very spiritual experience which listening to various music pieces. The pieces heard while not under the influence of infrasound did not elicit such an experience.
A few things to remember:
1 - EVERYONE can be fooled. Every single person, this means you, me and everyone else. Accept this fact. Every magician on the planet uses this fact to perform every trick they do. Read the story earlier about how 30 people got hoaxed at the party, its just that easy.
2 - Just because something “Cannot be explained” … by you… doesnt mean there is not an explanation rooted in reality. Just because a light goes off or a creek is heard does not mean ghosts are in the room.
3 - Why do different cultures see different ghosts? Is it possibly because the idea of what kind of ghost to see is taught to you, and therefore your mind creates the ghost?
Just some idea…
[quote]pachell wrote:
I’m not a superstitious person nor believe in supernatural phenomenon, everything MUST have a scientific explanation, right?
Years ago I spent two months in the Utah wilderness with a group of about 14 people.
On a couple occasions, we saw what could only be described as legitimate skinwalkers. Even our horses would be spooked prior to us observing the animal-like creatures.
There was no logical explanation: lighting, perspective, etc.
We were on a survival-type trip, so far removed from the tourist areas the chances of other people/groups was virtually zero.
I’ve been on countless expeditions all over the country, and NEVER encountered anything remotely similar.[/quote]
Sure, and horses would never be afraid of the scent of predators, or be skittish around sudden motion. Nah, never heard of that before. 
[quote]RhunDraco wrote:
pachell wrote:
On a couple occasions, we saw what could only be described as legitimate skinwalkers. Even our horses would be spooked prior to us observing the animal-like creatures.
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Is that really the ONLY way they could be described? Perhaps you could start by what they looked like, what they were doing, how they reacted to you…
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
Of course being open to any and all possibilities is good.[/quote]
Actually, I disagree here, Lonnie. An open mind to “everything” makes a person a shmuck, just ready to be taken by the next con-artist who comes along (re: faith healers are the worst). Besides, being that open would mean you’d also be open to the opposing possibility, as well, which just isn’t logical. For example, something can’t be a ghost and a non-ghost at the same time.
After talking with people who believe in ghosts, demons, and other “supernatural” things, the one thing I see is that not a single one of these people can define what it is they’re talking about. It’s always something vague or ambiguous, an “energy” or “force” that apparently can be seen and felt but not recorded (even though some claim to have done so, but the evidence is always not available), but what really makes me laugh is when someone says “well, you won’t ever see because you don’t believe.”
How convenient.
I am a skeptic to the highest degree. Everything…God, afterlife, spirits, a good sale at the grocery store, everything. Show it to me and only then will I believe it.
However, my friend lived in a huge old house that was used as part of the undergroud railroad back in the 1860’s.It was discovered that they were helping the slaves and they were removed from the house. I saw some weeeeird things there. Still don’t know if I believe or trust myself but OMG it freaked me the fuck out.
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
Not a fake. Believe what you will.
… A light of some kind. Humans are designed to see faces, and anything that even looks remotely like a face will get recognized very quickly. Go outside and look at some Stucco on the side of your house and just look at how many faces show up. Is this creepy? No, its perfectly normal.[/quote]
We’re not “designed” to see faces. We evolved with an advanced, and probably mostly subconscious, ability to recognize patterns. We even insert patterns where there are none, or we interpolate and increase the complexity of something we’re seeing/smelling/feeling/sensing. Since memories partially work using relationships with past patterns, we associate “new” stimuli with already stored patterns.
Hence, seeing a spooky face in the texture of a painted wall or in a darkened, stained window, doesn’t mean we’re actually seeing the manifestation of intent by a magical, or supernatural entity. Our brains see one part of an image, and our brain constructs the rest.
[quote]Der Candy wrote:
MikeKubo wrote:
That quote is awesome. That’s ‘Powerful Words’ shit right there.
Nonetheless, I still believe in all this stuff. I’ve seen/heard too many things, and again, the more you read down through history about it the more you learn. And people will say, “Well, those were uneducated people in an uneducated time”
Sure, I suppose they were and you now have your scientific theories and beliefs to debunk a lot. However, to me, it is like the 6’2". 130 lbs guy who reads all he can on these forums and starts these super advanced, weird ass, overly complicated TBT programs because science says it is the right thing to do. 5 years later, that guy is 136 lbs.
Some ‘uneducated, unscientific’ meathead who gets in there and does a bodypart split defying all laws of science manages to somehow gain 100 lbs in those 5 years and winds up jacked. Just because there is logic there or you can scientifically explain something, it doesn’t make it right.
End point- Sometimes the more ‘educated’ we become, the fucking stupider we get.
But think about it - many of these legendary beliefs of supernaturals are similar. There are very similar variations all around the world. They had to have come from somewhere.[/quote]
We have similar experiences because our brains all work essentially the same, barring some injury or congenital condition. Also, our experiences are likely similar due in part to the “me too” phenomenon. One person sees a creepy figure in the forest, and tells someone, the story gets passed along and now other people swear they see the same thing. With regards to similar stories from other cultures, the thing to remember is that at the core of all legends and myths are human-like entities that seem to have motivations similar to our own. Big surprise, eh?
[quote]TheOlympian wrote:
why do ghosts wear clothes ?[/quote]
All the “ghosts” I see are female, and they’re all naked, and strangely they are all nymphos . . . then I wake up. Damnit.
[quote]RhunDraco wrote:
TheOlympian wrote:
why do ghosts wear clothes ?
All the “ghosts” I see are female, and they’re all naked, and strangely they are all nymphos . . . then I wake up. Damnit.[/quote]
hahahahahaha, naked nymphomaniac ghosts…that’s a odd thought lol
[quote]RhunDraco wrote:
We’re not “designed” to see faces. We evolved with an advanced, and probably mostly subconscious, ability to recognize patterns. We even insert patterns where there are none, or we interpolate and increase the complexity of something we’re seeing/smelling/feeling/sensing. Since memories partially work using relationships with past patterns, we associate “new” stimuli with already stored patterns.
Hence, seeing a spooky face in the texture of a painted wall or in a darkened, stained window, doesn’t mean we’re actually seeing the manifestation of intent by a magical, or supernatural entity. Our brains see one part of an image, and our brain constructs the rest.[/quote]
I may have to respectfully disagree with you here. Based on my knowledge of neurology I have heard of some brain dysfunctions which make it so someone is unable to recognize a person by face any longer. They will recognize them on the phone, you can describe them to them, but a picture of the face does not do the trick.
Babies will also be drawn to ink-blot type image of faces over any other design (butterflies, trains, cars…)
I may have slipped when I said “designed”, I should have said “evolved.” That should fix any semantic argument.
I will most certainly agree on the last paragraph. The brain will fill in missing information without a seconds notice. This is what is happening most of the time in optical illusions as well, the brain coming to the wrong conclusion for all the right reasons.