[quote]Gl;itch.e wrote:
This recent thread kinda goes over this. I made a few posts regarding why I personally dont like stims for workouts, but I got one guy bent out of shape over it! lol![/quote]
Your premise is based on the ASSUMPTION that it is possible, or always possible, to train to max recovery capability sans the use of supplementation.
I dont think that’s the case for most, let alone some, people.
Stimulants are a very valuable tool in an athletes arsenal. Obviously not necessary 100% of the time to make gains.
The counter productivity argument you make is overblown. IMO.