You have a point. I still find it odd that women would not have a preference for men who are in shape. The dating scene is really rough for a lot of guys out there, and there’s at least a perception that hitting the gym will give you somewhat of an edge. As I think someone else mentioned, though, a lot of women are not willing to put in the work themselves in the gym, so maybe finding a fit guy is less of a priority for them.
It is more like an added bonus amongst other factors, I believe. For women who are gymrats themselves, it is likely very important. However I’ve seen more than a fair share of female bodybuilders and fitness competitors with husbands who appear as if they’ve never even attended a gym.
I actually sympathize for men in the current scene. Are you Gen Z? If so, I do not think you will get much understanding from early millenials, Gen X’ers, and definitely not boomers, because of the huge change in social dynamics.
He’s likely kidding around with you. There’s nothing wrong with being a regular guy and most people do not take the alpha-beta construct seriously because it is kind of silly. It is not silly in the sense that it is an outgrowth of the outrageous amount of content on dating for men out there which indicates that it is indeed rough for a lot out there.
I don’t think anyone here wants to tear you down (most are helpful) but elsewhere and IRL you’ll likely find that womanless men are easy targets.
Have you seen what I wrote in the dating thread? I do not wish to derail this thread.
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If you want a serious answer for a second: doing things because “women want it” is a self-defeating prophecy in my opinion. Do things that meet your values and that are aimed at improving your life. You’ll magically find that people with similar values will find those things attractive and you will then find yourself in a good position for a fulfilling relationship.
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They do. Several studies show this including one recently posted on this site comparing dad bods to fit people.
Here a random good one from google:
Cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men’s bodily attractiveness (nih.gov)
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I’m hoping this is sarcastic. Some women might want a few dominant traits in a guy, but very few would actually be interested in being dominated (not in a sexual context).
Just be you or you will be putting yourself in a bad situation. If you pretend dominance, but aren’t really like that, you will find a woman who wants that specifically… which will be bad for you and her, because that’s not who you are.
In hindsight, maybe I shouldn’t have posted in sarcasm 
This is the internet.
Just so you know, I wasn’t even talking to you. I was replying to @SkyzykS, and I was being 100% sarcastic. The concept of alpha/beta males is not something I’ve ever taken seriously.
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The system notifies the person responded to with an @ from other user but it doesn’t show up on the screen.
We’ve joked around a lot about this subject previously. No one is trying to beat you down.
We might later though if we find you starting your day with cool whip and man boobs.
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As someone who brags about how much I can lift to most women I meet, let me assure you that some women are VERY interested in how much you can lift.
Topless dancers in particular always seem to be deeply interested in my lifting achievements.
It just depends on the gal.
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That’s something a beta would say.
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yeah generally they dont care. Money, your confidence/place in the world, lifestyle etc etc are the overwhelming factors
ill add tho… IF you find your self in a situation where some basic dad strength is needed like holding off a drunk guy harrasing her, picking up something heavy and mechanical, or just flipping on to your shoulders at a festival and then you fall short …that is a major turn off.
Being strong enough to ragdoll her in the bedroom will usually be appreciated also 
Just because…
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That chick ain’t nothing to brag about.
Let’s see him do that with a nice corn fed honey sporting a low center of gravity!
That takes some power. 
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Thank you… older people don’t really seem to get it
Have you ever tried woke dating? Tis not great
Yes they care.
Women want a man to be good at things and have impressive qualities. Strength doesn’t have to be one of those qualities but it can be.
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Apparently they are getting ‘it’ more than younger ones…
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What the fuck is “woke dating”?
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I am more than certain that, if they aren’t woke while you’re dating, it’s a crime.
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It’s a type of dating where everything is super confusing.
Want to go out for drinks? Make sure the date doesn’t end with a hookup then because alcohol + hooking up = rape (seriously, I’ve had people tell me this…)
Want to make a joke? Be very… very… careful…
Dating is super confusing… or at the very least the dating advice given nowadays can be very confusing. I’m sure everyone means well, but I’ve been told to ''ask every girl if it is okay" before I kiss them or make a move.
Apparently body language and obvious cues no longer matter.
I’d never sexually assault someone, however some of these “rules” are absolutely absurd and appear indicative that many have lost touch with reality.
What is wrong with it? I had a great time tinder dating woke AF ladies. Even married one of them.
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Thanks for clarifying.
It seems your issues stem entirely from not knowing when you’re going to get sex? Is that fair?
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No, my issues stem from not knowing when it is appropriate to initiate/make a move.
If I take a girl out to eat and I have a beer, she has a glass of wine… can I take her back to my place or vice versa?
According to many I’ve spoken too (seriously)… apparently not…