They’ve been teasing Plazma for awhile now as their future recommended workout drink. Can’t wait to see what it’s going to be.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
They’ve been teasing Plazma for awhile now as their future recommended workout drink. Can’t wait to see what it’s going to be.[/quote]
About $150 a bottle. Bazinga.
Seriously though, people who keep just saying ‘Anaconda’ to my question…people got big before it, they will get big without it and after it hence the topic, do it yourself periworkout.
Zraw, as to the MAG-10…i still really dont understand why I should take it or what it does. But i keep hearing everyone recommend it.
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Eazy wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Actually I’d go 2scoops Anaconda with 1-2scoop SWF[/quote]
They actually advise against mixing Anaconda with SWF or anything for that matter other than creatine. Its suppose to be perfected as is, the newer dextrins that have been added to it are superior to the carbs in SWF i believe.
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There isnt enough carbs for my liking in the anaconda unless you add a 3rd scoop. I hadnt read the product changes and stuff. Imo as far as carb source is concerned anything you digest well and has a good molecular weight or whatever will do the job
Having looked at the products again here is what I would do for nutrition using Biotest’s products
1Hour pre workout : 2 finibars + 500ml eggwhite or 2scoops grow whey
Intra workout : 2-3 scoops MAG-10 + 2-3scoops SWF in 2L water. I’d start to drink 15mins pre workout and be finished by 3/4 of my workout
You would have enough for 24 workouts so more than a month for 75$ + 45$, its not that bad[/quote]
The problem with this is Biotest is astronomically expensive if I buy it locally and/or via internet. The above would probably costs around $300 a month easily for me.
If it was absolutely insanely amazing then I would be tempted, but it just seems too expensive for what it is 
feel like id be better off getting test/tren/gh or something if i wanted amazing results lol
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Eazy wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Actually I’d go 2scoops Anaconda with 1-2scoop SWF[/quote]
They actually advise against mixing Anaconda with SWF or anything for that matter other than creatine. Its suppose to be perfected as is, the newer dextrins that have been added to it are superior to the carbs in SWF i believe.
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There isnt enough carbs for my liking in the anaconda unless you add a 3rd scoop. I hadnt read the product changes and stuff. Imo as far as carb source is concerned anything you digest well and has a good molecular weight or whatever will do the job
Having looked at the products again here is what I would do for nutrition using Biotest’s products
1Hour pre workout : 2 finibars + 500ml eggwhite or 2scoops grow whey
Intra workout : 2-3 scoops MAG-10 + 2-3scoops SWF in 2L water. I’d start to drink 15mins pre workout and be finished by 3/4 of my workout
You would have enough for 24 workouts so more than a month for 75$ + 45$, its not that bad[/quote]
The problem with this is Biotest is astronomically expensive if I buy it locally and/or via internet. The above would probably costs around $300 a month easily for me.
If it was absolutely insanely amazing then I would be tempted, but it just seems too expensive for what it is feel like id be better off getting test/tren/gh or something if i wanted amazing results lol[/quote]
Not everyone wants to compromise their natural status.
In terms of market value, I’ve priced sourcing all of the components of Anaconda and MAG-10, and essentially mixing my own versions of these. I couldn’t figure out a way to save more than a few bucks a month. Casein hydrolysate is expensive, period.
The reason I’m willing to pay for Anaconda and MAG-10 (and Surge Workout Fuel in the past) is largely due to the ease of digestion, and the resulting feeling. These mixes don’t ‘weigh you down’, they don’t fill you up like whey isolate can. I use Metabolic Drive mixed with milk when I want to replace a meal. If I’m lifting or competing in a sport, these lighter mixes are awesome.
Yes, people used to get big without this stuff. But you have to remember, people with average to below average genetics weren’t necessarily getting big and strong ‘back in the day’. My thought is that the advanced nutrition of today can help to level the genetic playing field to an extent.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
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I was joking about the drugs.
I am getting more tempted to try it now to be honest, as most of the guys I have seen rave about it so far have barely any strength or build at all and are kidding themselves in my view.
Again, main problem is it is literally about twice the price you are payingand that is already steep lol.
but i want some swole :-/
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Yes, people used to get big without this stuff. But you have to remember, people with average to below average genetics weren’t necessarily getting big and strong ‘back in the day’. My thought is that the advanced nutrition of today can help to level the genetic playing field to an extent.[/quote]
I wouldn’t even go the genetic route, yes, there were people who made gains without supplements and yes no supplement is necessary. However, people also survived without electricity, running water and they used horse and buggy’s to get around. That doesn’t mean we have to continue to live like that. Just like anything else there will always be advances and things will always get better, in 2-3 years something else will come along and trump Anaconda.
I completely understand if someone is broke and can’t afford these things but that’s not a good reason to bash the product or the price tag when they haven’t in fact tried it to begin with and poo poo it because they can’t. At the end of the day this is a forum ran by a supplement company, so you will have strong opinions in favor of their products obviously.
I think what most research is saying is that workout nutrition is the most important time of the day to really nail and products like Anaconda, MAG-10, Surge Workout Fuel and FINiBARs take a lot of the guesswork out of the process and do a great job of taking care of you during that time. So, if you have the means it can only help things along.
By the way zraw, whatever you’re doing is working man, weren’t you working with Meadows for awhile?
[quote]Eazy wrote:
By the way zraw, whatever you’re doing is working man, weren’t you working with Meadows for awhile?
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I am, and will for the whole year
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Eazy wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Actually I’d go 2scoops Anaconda with 1-2scoop SWF[/quote]
They actually advise against mixing Anaconda with SWF or anything for that matter other than creatine. Its suppose to be perfected as is, the newer dextrins that have been added to it are superior to the carbs in SWF i believe.
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There isnt enough carbs for my liking in the anaconda unless you add a 3rd scoop. I hadnt read the product changes and stuff. Imo as far as carb source is concerned anything you digest well and has a good molecular weight or whatever will do the job
Having looked at the products again here is what I would do for nutrition using Biotest’s products
1Hour pre workout : 2 finibars + 500ml eggwhite or 2scoops grow whey
Intra workout : 2-3 scoops MAG-10 + 2-3scoops SWF in 2L water. I’d start to drink 15mins pre workout and be finished by 3/4 of my workout
You would have enough for 24 workouts so more than a month for 75$ + 45$, its not that bad[/quote]
Having never used any peri-workout supplements, what does this actually do for you? Compared to, say, not using anything?
What do you notice is different? What kind of things change to be able to say “yes, this worked” or “no, that didn’t work”?[/quote]
Muscles are more full during workout, I dont need to wait as much between sets, I get a better pump, I dont feel like weaksauce halfway thru the workout
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Eazy wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
Actually I’d go 2scoops Anaconda with 1-2scoop SWF[/quote]
They actually advise against mixing Anaconda with SWF or anything for that matter other than creatine. Its suppose to be perfected as is, the newer dextrins that have been added to it are superior to the carbs in SWF i believe.
[/quote]
There isnt enough carbs for my liking in the anaconda unless you add a 3rd scoop. I hadnt read the product changes and stuff. Imo as far as carb source is concerned anything you digest well and has a good molecular weight or whatever will do the job
Having looked at the products again here is what I would do for nutrition using Biotest’s products
1Hour pre workout : 2 finibars + 500ml eggwhite or 2scoops grow whey
Intra workout : 2-3 scoops MAG-10 + 2-3scoops SWF in 2L water. I’d start to drink 15mins pre workout and be finished by 3/4 of my workout
You would have enough for 24 workouts so more than a month for 75$ + 45$, its not that bad[/quote]
The problem with this is Biotest is astronomically expensive if I buy it locally and/or via internet. The above would probably costs around $300 a month easily for me.
If it was absolutely insanely amazing then I would be tempted, but it just seems too expensive for what it is feel like id be better off getting test/tren/gh or something if i wanted amazing results lol[/quote]
And the reason why I dont use MAG-10 + Surge Workout Fuel + FINiBARs is because while the pricetag would be ok for me it becomes “not ok” when I need to add duty fees
Custom mix of whey,casein hydro w/ leucine. Creatine. 1 scoop of SWF. It works, depending on the current goal add or subtract the protein. Give something a solid six months and see how it works for you. I’ve seen that CBL can work great for fat loss. Now that Im tryin to gain weight, I’m going to try something more traditional, more carbs n food throughout.
I’m taking citrulline malate, creatine, beta alanine, Acetyl L Carnitine, N Acetyl L Tyrosine.
Apart from the CM it’s all dirt cheap (in the doses I’m taking). I might take a Spike tab when I need a boost.