DNC 2012

[quote]doogie wrote:
http://www.spin.com/articles/democrats-inexplicably-play-child-molester-gary-glitter-at-convention?utm_source=spinfacebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spinfacebook

pedo music[/quote]

If I listen to this, will I rape children?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Please show me one about Obama or Nancy Pelosi or Barney Franks or any one else
[/quote]

Hey Pitt we don’t give a fuck about your little flip-flop video.

Is that clear?

Obama wrecked the economy and we need someone who can fix it as Obama is inept at best and at worst he’s doing it on purpose to build a socialist utopia. Either way the topic is OBAMA SUCKS.

Want a little video to show you how he did it?

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Clear as mud :slight_smile:
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So… If all these jobs are created, why is there so much uncertainty in the markets? Why do we need QE3? Why are so many people on food stamps? Why do we need to raise taxes because all these new jobs should raise revenue? Why are so many people still out of work?

I mean, I’ve seen this graph on more than one facebook page, and it just seems like, well, fuzzy math. I do a lot of math in my day to day life, and it just seems like this graph is missing something, something vital, something like, well, context…

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Please show me one about Obama or Nancy Pelosi or Barney Franks or any one else
[/quote]

Hey Pitt we don’t give a fuck about your little flip-flop video.

Is that clear?

Obama wrecked the economy and we need someone who can fix it as Obama is inept at best and at worst he’s doing it on purpose to build a socialist utopia. Either way the topic is OBAMA SUCKS.

Want a little video to show you how he did it?

[/quote]

Clear as mud :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Ignoring the arbitrary zero point on that horrible graph, ~-750,000 to ~+300,000 = 3.9 million jobs created? What retard created this? Good god people are dumb. If you’re going to make up bullshit statistics backed by bullshit graphs, at least make the two match.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Please show me one about Obama or Nancy Pelosi or Barney Franks or any one else
[/quote]

Hey Pitt we don’t give a fuck about your little flip-flop video.

Is that clear?

Obama wrecked the economy and we need someone who can fix it as Obama is inept at best and at worst he’s doing it on purpose to build a socialist utopia. Either way the topic is OBAMA SUCKS.

Want a little video to show you how he did it?

[/quote]

Clear as mud :slight_smile:
[/quote]

When Bush left office the unemployment rate was 7.8%. It shot up to over 10% under Obama. The jobs you are referring to are the ones that brought the unemployment rate back down to 8.3%. Which is still a half point higher than when Bush left office.

Obama made it worse!

And that’s not even adding up the cluster fuck of give-away programs. 100 million people on some form of government assistance (that’s called growing your political base the sleazy way). 45 million people on food stamps.

And don’t forget Obama added 4 trillion to the national debt…in only four years.

I know the facts don’t mean anything in your world. But yeah Obama made just about everything worse.

This should be interesting/annoying.

Glad I don’t live in a swing state.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
I really enjoyed the outtakes from Millionaire Michelle Obama’s speech rehearsal, as she talked about her extreme poverty,[/quote]

Michelle fought her way out of the ghetto(pic attached) to land that ‘Diversity Coordinator’ job on $360k.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
I was referring to the vitriol and unsubstantiated claims made prior to my comment. [/quote]

Please point out your issues with the comments then.[/quote]

Mostly the stuff Sexmachine said about Clinton being a rapists and the then the comments joining that bandwagon and then that list you made and the comments following that bandwagon. The rest has had at least some reasoning and not just ‘rabble rabble, dems are the devil’.

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
I was referring to the vitriol and unsubstantiated claims made prior to my comment. [/quote]

Please point out your issues with the comments then.[/quote]

Mostly the stuff Sexmachine said about Clinton being a rapists and the then the comments joining that bandwagon and then that list you made and the comments following that bandwagon. The rest has had at least some reasoning and not just ‘rabble rabble, dems are the devil’. [/quote]

The list was a joke, sort of. I mean, come on, it is fun to live in dream land where everyone is equal and we all live together in happy world and everything can just be magically paid for. But that isn’t America in 2012. And no one ever has been or ever will be equal. In the eyes of the law? Yes. In economic

This is why I made the list.

Don’t get me wrong, I can make valid arguments about how the dems are actually racist or at least promote it, and how they do keep people poor on purpose to get their votes. And I’m also aware the republicans like to spend just as much money in recent years so their is some truth, but the list was jest.

I can poke fun at the other party if it makes you feel better.

^

Nah, that’s fair enough. It was also my ‘early morning’ and hadn’t had my coffee yet lol. I work a late shift.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
Holy hell! This has to be a new record for a T-Nation thread turning into a conservative circle jerk. [/quote]

And your post will end up right in the middle of it.

YUCK![/quote]

Ewww! You’re right! I’ve gotta shower immediately!!!

But mostly, I was referring to the vitriol and unsubstantiated claims made prior to my comment. For whatever’s it’s worth, I can’t stand it when dems do that too. It’s why I hate talking politics with my parents.

And again for whatever it’s worth, I don’t think you were part of the problem in this thread. Actually in general, once I figured out your internet persona I’ve never really had an issue with any of your posts. I’d say you’re one of the more ingenuous posters. You’re kind of like a conservative Pitt. [/quote]

So you end in an insult?

Sheesh…[/quote]

lol

No Joe Biden, Osama Bin Laden is not better off than he was 4 yrs ago. He was alive, and remained bullet free.

Holy shit… Our president just called America a democracy.

mother fucker little things like that irk me

[quote]ZEB wrote:
To defend Ryan convention speech’s are not known for their factual depth. In fact Bill Clinton’s speech has already been ripped apart by the various Internet fact checks.
[/quote]

Do you have links to these? Not calling you out, just curious.

I read Politico’s specifically because it leans right but they didn’t do a great job and they actually said most of what he said was factual.

How about some Obama drivel…

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Please show me one about Obama or Nancy Pelosi or Barney Franks or any one else
[/quote]

Hey Pitt we don’t give a fuck about your little flip-flop video.

Is that clear?

Obama wrecked the economy and we need someone who can fix it as Obama is inept at best and at worst he’s doing it on purpose to build a socialist utopia. Either way the topic is OBAMA SUCKS.

Want a little video to show you how he did it?

[/quote]

Clear as mud :slight_smile:
[/quote]

So… If all these jobs are created, why is there so much uncertainty in the markets? Why do we need QE3? Why are so many people on food stamps? Why do we need to raise taxes because all these new jobs should raise revenue? Why are so many people still out of work?

I mean, I’ve seen this graph on more than one facebook page, and it just seems like, well, fuzzy math. I do a lot of math in my day to day life, and it just seems like this graph is missing something, something vital, something like, well, context…[/quote]

The Bush administration pushed aggressively to put as many people on food stamps as possible and nooooow… there are a lot of people on food stamps.

True story.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Holy shit… Our president just called America a democracy.

mother fucker little things like that irk me[/quote]

And again, why?

It was not supposed to be one, but now it is.

Just keeping it real.

As if in rebuttal to the entire DNC convention…

[i]WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Jobs growth slowed more than expected in August, setting the stage for the Federal Reserve to pump additional money into the sluggish economy next week and dealing a blow to President Obama as he seeks reelection in November.

Nonfarm payrolls increased only 96,000 last month, the Labor Department said on Friday. While the unemployment rate dropped to 8.1 percent from 8.3 percent in July, it was largely due to Americans giving up the search for work.[/i]

http://news.yahoo.com/payroll-growth-seen-tepid-may-force-feds-hand-040118503--business.html

I do give Obama credit for pointing out one of his biggest disappointments of his term though, with the line “you elected me to tell the truth.”

Because people did, and he didn’t.

Yup. The U-3 unemployment rate is currently around what the U-6 was for the majority of 2007 (The U-6 has been hovering around 14.5 - 15.5 since November last year, hasn’t been below 14.5 since January 2009). Wonderful recovery. Oh wait, I almost forgot. Lets ignore all that because Obama personally created 3.9 million jobs in the last 24 months. Crappily made infographics told me so.

Edit: Let’s also remember that the participation rate the BLS uses to determine the labor force has dropped from 65.7% in Jan. 2009 to 63.5% currently. Somehow I don’t think ~6 million Americans suddenly quit wanting jobs during that time frame.

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
To defend Ryan convention speech’s are not known for their factual depth. In fact Bill Clinton’s speech has already been ripped apart by the various Internet fact checks.
[/quote]

Do you have links to these? Not calling you out, just curious.

I read Politico’s specifically because it leans right but they didn’t do a great job and they actually said most of what he said was factual.[/quote]

There are many that critiqued his speech and found gaping factual flaws.

Here is one but there are others just google:

http://www.westernfreepress.com/2012/09/06/clinton-speech-tastes-great-less-truthful/