[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Clinton would have bombed Afghanistan like a motherfucker. He loved to bomb people.
As sure as he fucked an intern he would have bombed Afghanistan. [/quote]
I don’t think so. See OBL was playing falconry with some Saudi royalty and oil sheiks so BJ didn’t want to give the green light. Al Qaeda formed and grew under BJ’s watch and 911 was largely a consequence of his failure to deal with them.
I can not speak for any one else , But as far as I am concerned . I would have done much better if I couldhave started with at least 500 k . IMO you would have been saying look at Pittski what a Republican model he is [/quote]
Common thought, but completely false.
I could give 100 people 500k tomorrow. .[/quote]
How many would out produce Mitt ?
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Over the course of their life time? Likely 0
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So I am thinking you must think Mitt is also in the top %1 intellectually as well , EYE ROLL
I doubt that between Columbia, Harvard (with honors), and the HLR Obama could have gotten by without smarts.
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His professor was an unqualified, plagiarist who never should’ve been given tenure. And there’s no reason to believe that it required ‘smarts’ to pass. Academic records withheld of course.
That is a single professor, out of how many that he had? You could pick out one or another of the professors I’ve had throughout undergraduate and graduate school and discredit me too, if that’s all it takes.
And, as I said, he graduated cum laude from Harvard Law. Do you honestly believe that it doesn’t take intelligence to distinguish oneself at Harvard Law?[/quote]
Mitt Romney graduated from Harvard with a joint Juris Doctor and Master of Business Administration.
Does that make Romney twice as smart as Obama?
I also heard you can find out Romney’s grades and other important information relative to his college years…unlike Obama the mystery President.
Immature name calling is all. But I’ve learned to expect that sort of thing from you.
Romney had a 4 point bounce in two key must win states. And an over all 3 pt bounce nationwide. Not bad considering that there were only about 5% undecided at that point. Let’s see the sort of bounce that Obama gets after Bill Clinton showed him up.
But I do think Romney has an uphill fight. Not because Obama is so good but because the MSLM is in his hip pocket and have been for four years. If Bush had done half the things Obama did wrong they’d have stormed the White House and strung him up.
Now run along little girl.
Gee, I hope that’s not offensive I know how you lefty’s hate the truth.
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Well, chuckles, as far as I can tell, The republican base doesn’t even like him. They will hold their noses and vote for him, but remember the primary races when it was anybody but Romney?[/quote]
Remember the democratic primary races of 2008 when the democrats were split between Obama and Hillary Clinton? Remember when Obama was attacked by those in his own party for not having enough experience for the job?
And then what happened in the general election?
There have been many contentious primaries on both sides. One more example of this is 1980 when George Bush (41) attacked Ronald Reagan relentlessly. It was a very bitter and hard fought primary. Reagan came out on top and then picked Bush to be his VP. Politics is funny like that. But you’d actually have to have a good understanding of political history to appreciate things like this, which you obviously don’t have.
I don’t doubt that Obama will get a bounce from his convention. Romney did as I pointed out in my previous post. This is a very close election and I have no grand illusions that Romney will win and if he does it will be very close.
And I think you are in way over your head every time you enter PWI. Unlike others who post (even some on your side) you have no sense of political history. For that matter honey I don’t really think you understand what’s going on in front of your very nose.
For example, why don’t you give me three good reasons why you feel that Obama deserves to be reelected? All you’ve done so far is accuse Romney of not having passion and making other vague claims against Romney. If Obama is so great it seems that you’d be talking about all his accomplishments. So go ahead sweety give it a shot. Let’s see how much of a compelling case you can make to get your hero reelected.
There might be some heavy lifting here so I would expect you to duck the question.
Regarding his “laziness” which is somehow manifested in his number of campaign speeches, I believe that Obama has a day job.[/quote]
A day job where he spends less time than any other modern day President? I do think that he’s lazy and I also think he suffers from some sort of megalomania. In short the man is in over his head, doesn’t know it and acts as if he’s the greatest President who has ever lived. It’s actually humorous.
How do you know what sort of grades he had? As far as I know they’ve been hidden from the general public along with other important information.
Harvard has Obama info on lock down.
But, the American public shouldn’t be able to see these things regarding the chosen one. And no one in the media better question the secrecy either. If they do they’ve got to be racist.
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“A job where he spends less time than any other modern day president.” Obama has taken 78 vacation days in his first three years in office. Compared with other modern presidents at the three-year mark: G.W. Bush, 180; Ronald Reagan, 112.
First of all I think the word “vacation” is not being used properly. While Obama may have taken less time off on “vacation” he has certainly taken more “golf days” than any other first term President.
As of July he’s played 100 rounds of golf and none of it is included in his “vacation” time. But he’s not exactly at his desk pondering the ecnomic problems of the day is he? There is far more to being lazy than taking many more “vacations.”
There are plenty of ways that our lazy President spends his time. Vacations as you term it above are only one of them. Golf is a big part of Obama’s life as is basketball he just playe with some of his celebrity pals like George Cloony. And then there was this episode
I have not checked to see how much time Obama spends playing basketball (do they even track that? If he takes off a half day to “play” is that counted as a half vacation day? Nope.) Yes, he does have plenty of such sports and hobby’s. He certainly has distractions in his life that take him away from his job. But they don’t call golf or basketball or heaven knows what else he does as “vacation.”
As for his Harvard education no one disputes that he graduated from Harvard. Did you think that you were bringing some mind numbing new evidence to the board? Although Harvard didn’t seem to mean much in GW Bush’s case. Remember Bush was an idiot, at least according to your pals in the press. Ah the good old days when we used to hear about how evil Bush was because of the Patirot Act, Gitmo and nasty killing drones. But it’s all good now that Obama is doing it. But I digress…
The problem is that no one can access Obama’s actual grades. Unlike Bush and every President before him Obama likes secrecy in his life. Now why do you suppose that his entire academic career, including how he got into harvard, his special loan papers etc. is on lock down?
Hmm…one can only speculate.
Do you dispute any of this?
By the way please stay on the board. You are an articulate, knowledgable debate Opponent. Any more posters like Christine and I’ll start nodding off during responses.
So thanks for your efforts and I do not mean that sarcastically.
I can not speak for any one else , But as far as I am concerned . I would have done much better if I couldhave started with at least 500 k . IMO you would have been saying look at Pittski what a Republican model he is [/quote]
Common thought, but completely false.
I could give 100 people 500k tomorrow. .[/quote]
How many would out produce Mitt ?
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Over the course of their life time? Likely 0
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So I am thinking you must think Mitt is also in the top %1 intellectually as well , EYE ROLL [/quote]
What a silly thing to say Pittski.
Why would anyone think that a man who graduated with a double law and business degree from Harvard, was Governor of a state, saved the Olympics and made 300 million bucks in the private sector is actually a smart guy?
Politics is a bad thing it makes us look beyond a man’s qualifications and attack him for being a member of a certain party.
If you had a decent size business to run and had to put either Obama or Romney in charge you wouldn’t be asking about their political affiliations. You’d look at their experience and past success and then…you’d hire Romney!
As for his Harvard education no one disputes that he graduated from Harvard. Did you think that you were bringing some mind numbing new evidence to the board? Although Harvard didn’t seem to mean much in GW Bush’s case. Remember Bush was an idiot, at least according to your pals in the press. Ah the good old days when we used to hear about how evil Bush was because of the Patirot Act, Gitmo and nasty killing drones. But it’s all good now that Obama is doing it. But I digress…
The problem is that no one can access Obama’s actual grades. Unlike Bush and every President before him Obama likes secrecy in his life. Now why do you suppose that his entire academic career, including how he got into harvard, his special loan papers etc. is on lock down?
Hmm…one can only speculate.
Do you dispute any of this?
By the way please stay on the board. You are an articulate, knowledgable debate Opponent. Any more posters like Christine and I’ll start nodding off during responses.
So thanks for your efforts and I do not mean that sarcastically.
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The feeling is mutual. I welcome our debates Zeb, and I like to stay on here as much as I can. Work comes in Laird Hamilton-style waves for me, so I disappear for months at a time every so often, but I always come back because I don’t know many conservatives in real life that are as smart as most of you.
As for the Harvard thing, you didn’t address the fact that he graduated top of his class. Whatever his grades were, they couldn’t have been very far off from straight A’s if Obama graduated magna at Harvard Law. As I’ve been saying, it’s difficult to argue that someone with that kind of success in that kind of school is not somehow a smart guy. While I wouldn’t begin to imply that the love letters uncovered by Maraniss this last year showed us anything ocnclusive about the capacity or workings of Obama’s mind, they certainly showed a young and well-read guy with a serious intellectual curiosity.
To reiterate what I said above, this isn’t a defense of his policies or wisdom or anything of the sort. I just don’t think there’s any evidence to attack the guy’s intellect. And for the record I have always said that Bush is a hell of a lot smarter than the media ever gave him credit for. Folksy and given to making embarrassing oratorical errors, yes, but he also had a memory that impressed almost everyone who knew about it and an appetite for very serious books.
I can not speak for any one else , But as far as I am concerned . I would have done much better if I couldhave started with at least 500 k . IMO you would have been saying look at Pittski what a Republican model he is [/quote]
Common thought, but completely false.
I could give 100 people 500k tomorrow. .[/quote]
How many would out produce Mitt ?
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Over the course of their life time? Likely 0
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So I am thinking you must think Mitt is also in the top %1 intellectually as well , EYE ROLL [/quote]
No, your assumption and bias are clouding your judgement.
The man knows how to make money. He sees a situation and can turn it into a profit center. This is what he is good at. This doesn’t mean he is the smartest man ever, nor does it mean he doesn’t need a good team around him.
It simply means he can break down a situation unlike many other people. It means he is very good at what he does. That doesn’t make him special, it makes him just like the rest of the world. I can put together 1,200 page tax returns and have tops 2 mistakes out of 6,500 data points, but I can’t put molding up around my bathtub without it looking like a 2 year did it.
Doesn’t make me the “top 1%”, just means I am good at taxes. Mitt is just exceptional at making money.
As for his Harvard education no one disputes that he graduated from Harvard. Did you think that you were bringing some mind numbing new evidence to the board? Although Harvard didn’t seem to mean much in GW Bush’s case. Remember Bush was an idiot, at least according to your pals in the press. Ah the good old days when we used to hear about how evil Bush was because of the Patirot Act, Gitmo and nasty killing drones. But it’s all good now that Obama is doing it. But I digress…
The problem is that no one can access Obama’s actual grades. Unlike Bush and every President before him Obama likes secrecy in his life. Now why do you suppose that his entire academic career, including how he got into harvard, his special loan papers etc. is on lock down?
Hmm…one can only speculate.
Do you dispute any of this?
By the way please stay on the board. You are an articulate, knowledgable debate Opponent. Any more posters like Christine and I’ll start nodding off during responses.
So thanks for your efforts and I do not mean that sarcastically.
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The feeling is mutual. I welcome our debates Zeb, and I like to stay on here as much as I can. Work comes in Laird Hamilton-style waves for me, so I disappear for months at a time every so often, but I always come back because I don’t know many conservatives in real life that are as smart as most of you.
As for the Harvard thing, you didn’t address the fact that he graduated top of his class. Whatever his grades were, they couldn’t have been very far off from straight A’s if Obama graduated magna at Harvard Law. As I’ve been saying, it’s difficult to argue that someone with that kind of success in that kind of school is not somehow a smart guy. While I wouldn’t begin to imply that the love letters uncovered by Maraniss this last year showed us anything ocnclusive about the capacity or workings of Obama’s mind, they certainly showed a young and well-read guy with a serious intellectual curiosity.
To reiterate what I said above, this isn’t a defense of his policies or wisdom or anything of the sort. I just don’t think there’s any evidence to attack the guy’s intellect. And for the record I have always said that Bush is a hell of a lot smarter than the media ever gave him credit for. Folksy and given to making embarrassing oratorical errors, yes, but he also had a memory that impressed almost everyone who knew about it and an appetite for very serious books.[/quote]
I don’t dispute most of what you’ve written. My biggest claim was that, compared to most of his predecessors, he appears lazy and somehow above it all. I think he’s an arrogant individual. Also, intelligence can be measured in many ways. While Reagan didn’t have the academic credentials of many other Presidents he had a very high emotional intelligence, something much harder to measure. But when you met him (as I did one fine morning) you liked him! And since so many things come down to people skills that alone made him a great President.
As for Obama honestly it is difficult for me to be objective I so dislike his policies and just about everything that he’s done in four years. But, unlike many on the other side (not you), I am willing to admit my bias.
I can not speak for any one else , But as far as I am concerned . I would have done much better if I couldhave started with at least 500 k . IMO you would have been saying look at Pittski what a Republican model he is [/quote]
Common thought, but completely false.
I could give 100 people 500k tomorrow. .[/quote]
How many would out produce Mitt ?
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Over the course of their life time? Likely 0
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So I am thinking you must think Mitt is also in the top %1 intellectually as well , EYE ROLL [/quote]
No, your assumption and bias are clouding your judgement.
The man knows how to make money. He sees a situation and can turn it into a profit center. This is what he is good at. This doesn’t mean he is the smartest man ever, nor does it mean he doesn’t need a good team around him.
It simply means he can break down a situation unlike many other people. It means he is very good at what he does. That doesn’t make him special, it makes him just like the rest of the world. I can put together 1,200 page tax returns and have tops 2 mistakes out of 6,500 data points, but I can’t put molding up around my bathtub without it looking like a 2 year did it.
Doesn’t make me the “top 1%”, just means I am good at taxes. Mitt is just exceptional at making money.[/quote]
And don’t discount his leadership (executive) abilities.
I can not speak for any one else , But as far as I am concerned . I would have done much better if I couldhave started with at least 500 k . IMO you would have been saying look at Pittski what a Republican model he is [/quote]
Common thought, but completely false.
I could give 100 people 500k tomorrow. .[/quote]
How many would out produce Mitt ?
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Over the course of their life time? Likely 0
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So I am thinking you must think Mitt is also in the top %1 intellectually as well , EYE ROLL [/quote]
What a silly thing to say Pittski.
Why would anyone think that a man who graduated with a double law and business degree from Harvard, was Governor of a state, saved the Olympics and made 300 million bucks in the private sector is actually a smart guy?
Politics is a bad thing it makes us look beyond a man’s qualifications and attack him for being a member of a certain party.
If you had a decent size business to run and had to put either Obama or Romney in charge you wouldn’t be asking about their political affiliations. You’d look at their experience and past success and then…you’d hire Romney!
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I do not think Mitt Realizes his Dad’s Industriousness created opportunities for Mittens that people in the Ghetto never experience . A double law degree is fine even if Daddy did pay for it. Now if you told me he was a Rhode Scholar I could understand you crowing of his vast accomplishments . Or if Mitt’s father was an immigrant from Kenya raised by a single mother. Worked hard got student loans, got a law degree. I would say Mitt was an industrious young man.
Mittens would have probably been lucky to get a Bachelor’s degree at the Community College if not for Daddy. Judging from his ability to lie I would say Mitt is probably not the brightest .
I can not speak for any one else , But as far as I am concerned . I would have done much better if I couldhave started with at least 500 k . IMO you would have been saying look at Pittski what a Republican model he is [/quote]
Common thought, but completely false.
I could give 100 people 500k tomorrow. .[/quote]
How many would out produce Mitt ?
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Over the course of their life time? Likely 0
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So I am thinking you must think Mitt is also in the top %1 intellectually as well , EYE ROLL [/quote]
What a silly thing to say Pittski.
Why would anyone think that a man who graduated with a double law and business degree from Harvard, was Governor of a state, saved the Olympics and made 300 million bucks in the private sector is actually a smart guy?
Politics is a bad thing it makes us look beyond a man’s qualifications and attack him for being a member of a certain party.
If you had a decent size business to run and had to put either Obama or Romney in charge you wouldn’t be asking about their political affiliations. You’d look at their experience and past success and then…you’d hire Romney!
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I do not think Mitt Realizes his Dad’s Industriousness created opportunities for Mittens that people in the Ghetto never experience . A double law degree is fine even if Daddy did pay for it. Now if you told me he was a Rhode Scholar I could understand you crowing of his vast accomplishments . Or if Mitt’s father was an immigrant from Kenya raised by a single mother. Worked hard got student loans, got a law degree. I would say Mitt was an industrious young man.
Mittens would have probably been lucky to get a Bachelor’s degree at the Community College if not for Daddy. Judging from his ability to lie I would say Mitt is probably not the brightest .
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You are a moron. I am positive even you do not believe half of the shit you write. Is trolling that much fun?
I do not think Mitt Realizes his Dad’s Industriousness created opportunities for Mittens that people in the Ghetto never experience . A double law degree is fine even if Daddy did pay for it.[/quote]
You sound jealous Pittski, you are the perfect Obama supporter.
Let me remind you that Romney still had to take the tests and do the assingments. There was no amount of money that could have helped him there.
Also, let me remind you that he’s not the one who has failed over the past four years…that would be Obama!
Oh I see, so having graduated with a law and business degree from Harvard, saving the Olympics, making 300 million dollars in the private sector and becoming Governor of a state doesn’t impress you huh?
He’s actually one of the most qualified people to ever run for President of the United States.
If he was a democrat you’d be impressed. You’ve allowed politics to cloud reality. No problem everyone does, but some know it but others, like you, never ever see it.
[quote]Mittens would have probably been lucky to get a Bachelor’s degree at the Community College if not for Daddy. Judging from his ability to lie I would say Mitt is probably not the brightest .
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LOL…he’s so very much smarter than you that if an alien landed and talked to both of you he’d be thinking that one of you is human and the other a dumb animal. No really Pittski compared to Romney you are a drooling retard.
Try really hard to take off your political glasses and put on a pair called R E A L I T Y!
I can not speak for any one else , But as far as I am concerned . I would have done much better if I couldhave started with at least 500 k . IMO you would have been saying look at Pittski what a Republican model he is [/quote]
Common thought, but completely false.
I could give 100 people 500k tomorrow. .[/quote]
How many would out produce Mitt ?
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Over the course of their life time? Likely 0
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So I am thinking you must think Mitt is also in the top %1 intellectually as well , EYE ROLL [/quote]
What a silly thing to say Pittski.
Why would anyone think that a man who graduated with a double law and business degree from Harvard, was Governor of a state, saved the Olympics and made 300 million bucks in the private sector is actually a smart guy?
Politics is a bad thing it makes us look beyond a man’s qualifications and attack him for being a member of a certain party.
If you had a decent size business to run and had to put either Obama or Romney in charge you wouldn’t be asking about their political affiliations. You’d look at their experience and past success and then…you’d hire Romney!
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I do not think Mitt Realizes his Dad’s Industriousness created opportunities for Mittens that people in the Ghetto never experience . A double law degree is fine even if Daddy did pay for it. Now if you told me he was a Rhode Scholar I could understand you crowing of his vast accomplishments . Or if Mitt’s father was an immigrant from Kenya raised by a single mother. Worked hard got student loans, got a law degree. I would say Mitt was an industrious young man.
Mittens would have probably been lucky to get a Bachelor’s degree at the Community College if not for Daddy. Judging from his ability to lie I would say Mitt is probably not the brightest .
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You are a moron. I am positive even you do not believe half of the shit you write. Is trolling that much fun?[/quote]
That thought occurs to be repeatedly when reading Pitt’s posts. The day that I actually think he’s trolling and not that stupid is the day that he slips back on to ignore. At least dumb people are sincere…
Too Big To Jail: Wall Street Executives Unlikely To Face Criminal Charges, Source Says
Barring a “hail mary pass,” said the source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is still ongoing, the members of a task force President Barack Obama formed in January to investigate fraud in the residential mortgage bond industry will instead most likely bring civil lawsuits against some of the banks involved, though it isn’t clear when these cases might come.
I do not think Mitt Realizes his Dad’s Industriousness created opportunities for Mittens that people in the Ghetto never experience . A double law degree is fine even if Daddy did pay for it. Now if you told me he was a Rhode Scholar I could understand you crowing of his vast accomplishments . Or if Mitt’s father was an immigrant from Kenya raised by a single mother. Worked hard got student loans, got a law degree. I would say Mitt was an industrious young man.
Mittens would have probably been lucky to get a Bachelor’s degree at the Community College if not for Daddy. Judging from his ability to lie I would say Mitt is probably not the brightest .
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I feel like you are purposely acting foolish if you honestly believe Mitt was handed his money and didn’t earn it through his actions.
I mean, I know Obama likes to preach the collective, but in the real world, individual effort and ability play a bigger role than the current government would have you believe.
I do not think Mitt Realizes his Dad’s Industriousness created opportunities for Mittens that people in the Ghetto never experience . A double law degree is fine even if Daddy did pay for it. Now if you told me he was a Rhode Scholar I could understand you crowing of his vast accomplishments . Or if Mitt’s father was an immigrant from Kenya raised by a single mother. Worked hard got student loans, got a law degree. I would say Mitt was an industrious young man.
Mittens would have probably been lucky to get a Bachelor’s degree at the Community College if not for Daddy. Judging from his ability to lie I would say Mitt is probably not the brightest .
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I feel like you are purposely acting foolish if you honestly believe Mitt was handed his money and didn’t earn it through his actions.
I mean, I know Obama likes to preach the collective, but in the real world, individual effort and ability play a bigger role than the current government would have you believe.
This post is firmly grounded in fantasy land. [/quote]
It’s a well known fact that Romney had to split his inheritance among his siblings. And then what he did receive was donated to his College alma mater.
The guy actually made 300 million dollars in the private sector ON HIS OWN!
But why cloud the democratic story line with facts?