DNC 2012

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I have to say, Obama is probably the most intelligent man we’ve had as POTUS since Bush Sr. And before that, I would say LBJ, but i seem to remember him the one turning Vietnam into FUBAR status, but may be worng about that.

Obama has made government and government control popular among an entire generation of people, if not across generations but to a majority of the citizenry. A true scholar of history, much like what Hitler did in the 1930’s. (I’m not at all saying Obama is like Hitler, just they champion the same “government is the answer” cause.)

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I’m not so sure about Obama’s intelligence. I think he’s had plenty handed to him in his life for obvious reasons. I also think, judging by the number of vacations and golf outings, that he’s lazy as well. One more point, if you follow the speaking engagements of both Romney and Obama, Romney is out working Obama by about two to one.

That’s called P A S S I O N Christine!

But Obama does have passion…for his golf game.

But if you’re looking for raw intellect they say Jimmy Carter was one of the brightest who ever held the office. And…we know how that worked out.[/quote]

Alright, Chuckles… :slight_smile:

I’m sure you would rather Obama spend all his time giving speeches or hanging out on his ranch than single handedly destroying America, but the man has a job to do and America isn’t going to turn into a socialist state without some help from an empty-suit, do-nothing, Muslim.

Sorry, I don’t see any sort of passion or humanity from your idol.

Zeb hearts Romney! I get it!

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

Not me. But I’m not running for office.

You have to have passion to fight. Romney simply has none.[/quote]

Shit, it is annoying you and orion have the same avatar…
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Blame Orion!

Avatar thief.[/quote]

Your avatar has been socialized.

For the greater good.

Bite me. [/quote]

Ha. The Austrian made a funny.

:slight_smile:

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[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I have to say, Obama is probably the most intelligent man we’ve had as POTUS since Bush Sr. And before that, I would say LBJ, but i seem to remember him the one turning Vietnam into FUBAR status, but may be worng about that.

Obama has made government and government control popular among an entire generation of people, if not across generations but to a majority of the citizenry. A true scholar of history, much like what Hitler did in the 1930’s. (I’m not at all saying Obama is like Hitler, just they champion the same “government is the answer” cause.)

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I’m not so sure about Obama’s intelligence. I think he’s had plenty handed to him in his life for obvious reasons. I also think, judging by the number of vacations and golf outings, that he’s lazy as well. One more point, if you follow the speaking engagements of both Romney and Obama, Romney is out working Obama by about two to one.

That’s called P A S S I O N Christine!

But Obama does have passion…for his golf game.

But if you’re looking for raw intellect they say Jimmy Carter was one of the brightest who ever held the office. And…we know how that worked out.

Alright, Chuckles… :-)[/quote]

Chuckles? That’s even dumb for you.

He does have a good start in destroying the country.

100 million people currently on some form of government aid a record.

45 million on food stamps a record

16 trillion indebt 4 trillion of which belongs to Obama…a record.

Unemployment over 8% for 43 straight months. A record since the depression.

So yeah I’m glad he’s golfing a lot…he can only harm us he’s proven that.

I know what it takes to build a business (nothing close to what Romney did). And it takes passion. Obviously, he is passionate about what he does or he wouldn’t be so successful at it.

This reminds me of some sort of high school girl comment…not surprised. When you are defending Obama it always comes down to derision as you cannot tout Obama’s record. All you can do is attack those who point out his horrible failure.

And for the record while I do believe that Romney is the man for the job, as I believed Reagan was for his time, I would be this excited about anyone who is this close to taking down Obama.

Regardless of party Obama is a bad President and he needs to go!

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I have to say, Obama is probably the most intelligent man we’ve had as POTUS since Bush Sr. And before that, I would say LBJ, but i seem to remember him the one turning Vietnam into FUBAR status, but may be worng about that.

Obama has made government and government control popular among an entire generation of people, if not across generations but to a majority of the citizenry. A true scholar of history, much like what Hitler did in the 1930’s. (I’m not at all saying Obama is like Hitler, just they champion the same “government is the answer” cause.)

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I’m not so sure about Obama’s intelligence. I think he’s had plenty handed to him in his life for obvious reasons. I also think, judging by the number of vacations and golf outings, that he’s lazy as well. One more point, if you follow the speaking engagements of both Romney and Obama, Romney is out working Obama by about two to one.

That’s called P A S S I O N Christine!

But Obama does have passion…for his golf game.

But if you’re looking for raw intellect they say Jimmy Carter was one of the brightest who ever held the office. And…we know how that worked out.

Alright, Chuckles… :-)[/quote]

Chuckles? That’s even dumb for you.

He does have a good start in destroying the country.

100 million people currently on some form of government aid a record.

45 million on food stamps a record

16 trillion indebt 4 trillion of which belongs to Obama…a record.

Unemployment over 8% for 43 straight months. A record since the depression.

So yeah I’m glad he’s golfing a lot…he can only harm us he’s proven that.

I know what it takes to build a business (nothing close to what Romney did). And it takes passion. Obviously, he is passionate about what he does or he wouldn’t be so successful at it.

This reminds me of some sort of high school girl comment…not surprised. When you are defending Obama it always comes down to derision as you cannot tout Obama’s record. All you can do is attack those who point out his horrible failure.

And for the record while I do believe that Romney is the man for the job, as I believed Reagan was for his time, I would be this excited about anyone who is this close to taking down Obama.

Regardless of party Obama is a bad President and he needs to go!

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Who have I attacked here, Chuckles?

Orion, the avatar thief?

You? By pointing out that you’re a Romney cheerleader?

Romney, by pointing out how un-likable he is?

You are amusing. I enjoy reading about politics, but I don’t spend hours on the Internet defending Obama.

He doesn’t need my help. The RNC actually gave their convention bounce to Obama.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I have to say, Obama is probably the most intelligent man we’ve had as POTUS since Bush Sr. And before that, I would say LBJ, but i seem to remember him the one turning Vietnam into FUBAR status, but may be worng about that.

Obama has made government and government control popular among an entire generation of people, if not across generations but to a majority of the citizenry. A true scholar of history, much like what Hitler did in the 1930’s. (I’m not at all saying Obama is like Hitler, just they champion the same “government is the answer” cause.)

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I’m not so sure about Obama’s intelligence. I think he’s had plenty handed to him in his life for obvious reasons. I also think, judging by the number of vacations and golf outings, that he’s lazy as well. One more point, if you follow the speaking engagements of both Romney and Obama, Romney is out working Obama by about two to one.

That’s called P A S S I O N Christine!

But Obama does have passion…for his golf game.

But if you’re looking for raw intellect they say Jimmy Carter was one of the brightest who ever held the office. And…we know how that worked out.[/quote]

Regarding his “laziness” which is somehow manifested in his number of campaign speeches, I believe that Obama has a day job.

I doubt that between Columbia, Harvard (with honors), and the HLR Obama could have gotten by without smarts. If you read the “love letters” from his university days, he’s ahead of most college kids I’ve ever known.

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

I doubt that between Columbia, Harvard (with honors), and the HLR Obama could have gotten by without smarts.
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His professor was an unqualified, plagiarist who never should’ve been given tenure. And there’s no reason to believe that it required ‘smarts’ to pass. Academic records withheld of course.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/293539/racial-quota-fallout-thomas-sowell

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am sure tis is just part of it , but does not sound terribly complex at this level[/quote]

lol, you crack me up man.

Yes, it gets more complex than the link. But riddle me this: how much income can you afford to pay tax on that you don’t receive cash for immediately?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

Why do you think there are few minorities in the Republican Party ?[/quote]

Pretty sure you completely missed the point of my link, and post that accompanied it.

But to answer your question, because after LBJ pushed the civil rights bill past all his racist fellow democrats, all the angry southern democrats that have hated black people and wanted them as slaves since the dawn of the party, voted for Nixon.

Ever sense the democrats have been repeating a lie enough times to make it stick. They keep race and issue, in fact the force people to be racist by law, and then call the other party racist. This works, much like shitty TV commercials and retarded internet meme’s. People are uninformed and tend to believe the lie that allows them to think the least.

So, somehow, 50 years later the party that freed the slaves, tried to pass civil rights legislation in the 1860’s and fought to have every individual judged by the content of their character not the color of their skin, are considered the racist.

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[quote]Christine wrote:
Romney, by pointing out how un-likable he is?

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My boss isn’t very likable either, but the man grew up too poor for shoes and now has two commas in his rainy day fund.

I fear for our country when people vote for the leader of the free world based on whether they would hang out with them at the watercooler.

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[quote]Christine wrote:

Who have I attacked here, Chuckles?[/quote]

Immature name calling is all. But I’ve learned to expect that sort of thing from you.

Romney had a 4 point bounce in two key must win states. And an over all 3 pt bounce nationwide. Not bad considering that there were only about 5% undecided at that point. Let’s see the sort of bounce that Obama gets after Bill Clinton showed him up.

But I do think Romney has an uphill fight. Not because Obama is so good but because the MSLM is in his hip pocket and have been for four years. If Bush had done half the things Obama did wrong they’d have stormed the White House and strung him up.

Now run along little girl.

Gee, I hope that’s not offensive I know how you lefty’s hate the truth.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:
Quote "There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me – because they want to give something back. They know they didn?t – look, if you?ve been successful, you didn?t get there on your own. You didn?t get there on your own. I?m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

 If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.  There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.  Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.  Somebody invested in roads and bridges.  If you?ve got a business -- you didn?t build that.  Somebody else made that happen.  The Internet didn?t get invented on its own.  Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."

From the first paragraph, President Obama quantifies that a business owner doesn’t succeed because of his/her ideas or hard work.

Think you’re smart? “There are a lot of smart people out there.”
You work hard? “Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.”

He meant what he said.[/quote]

He’s just saying there is no business without government sponsored infrastructure, tangible and intangible. And he’s right - businesses having been living off government forever, some more than others.

I don’t really understand how you can look at it from a a malicious point of view. He’s saying, “great you had an idea and created something” but how much was that actually you i.e. your employees and all these other things you may take for granted. It’s a question more than some kind of dig at all the entrepreneurs out there.

Entrepreneurship is how you build an economy and put your people to work. It doesn’t make sense for anyone to hate on that.[/quote]

Look at the mans background and then look at what he has failed to do. There has been millions of private sector jobs lost under his watch.

Obama is lost in a mire of leftist ideology.

He meant what he said![/quote]

Zeb is lost in a mire of Republican Rhetoric
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No, he actually sees through the bullshit. [/quote]

I had hope for you my friend :)I still do

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[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:
Quote "There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me – because they want to give something back. They know they didn?t – look, if you?ve been successful, you didn?t get there on your own. You didn?t get there on your own. I?m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

 If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.  There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.  Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.  Somebody invested in roads and bridges.  If you?ve got a business -- you didn?t build that.  Somebody else made that happen.  The Internet didn?t get invented on its own.  Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."

From the first paragraph, President Obama quantifies that a business owner doesn’t succeed because of his/her ideas or hard work.

Think you’re smart? “There are a lot of smart people out there.”
You work hard? “Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.”

He meant what he said.[/quote]

He’s just saying there is no business without government sponsored infrastructure, tangible and intangible. And he’s right - businesses having been living off government forever, some more than others.

I don’t really understand how you can look at it from a a malicious point of view. He’s saying, “great you had an idea and created something” but how much was that actually you i.e. your employees and all these other things you may take for granted. It’s a question more than some kind of dig at all the entrepreneurs out there.

Entrepreneurship is how you build an economy and put your people to work. It doesn’t make sense for anyone to hate on that.[/quote]

Look at the mans background and then look at what he has failed to do. There has been millions of private sector jobs lost under his watch.

Obama is lost in a mire of leftist ideology.

He meant what he said![/quote]

Zeb is lost in a mire of Republican Rhetoric
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No, he actually sees through the bullshit. [/quote]

Funny.

But the republicans have nominated a passionless, tone-deaf robot, so it’s good for them that their base is so passionate. The sad part is Romney really was the best of the bunch.

I’m still convinced Romney doesn’t want the job anymore and he is going to say or do something that torpedoes any slim chance he might have at being elected at this point. [/quote]

Well, when you look at the landscape and realize that you actually have to fight to re-instate true American values (individual liberty, private lives, the government isn’t your friend) and be cast in a negative light for it, why would you want to fight that fight?[/quote]

Not me. But I’m not running for office.

You have to have passion to fight. Romney simply has none.[/quote]

:slight_smile:

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

Regarding his “laziness” which is somehow manifested in his number of campaign speeches, I believe that Obama has a day job.[/quote]

A day job where he spends less time than any other modern day President? I do think that he’s lazy and I also think he suffers from some sort of megalomania. In short the man is in over his head, doesn’t know it and acts as if he’s the greatest President who has ever lived. It’s actually humorous.

How do you know what sort of grades he had? As far as I know they’ve been hidden from the general public along with other important information.

Harvard has Obama info on lock down.

But, the American public shouldn’t be able to see these things regarding the chosen one. And no one in the media better question the secrecy either. If they do they’ve got to be racist.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

Funny.

But the republicans have nominated a passionless, tone-deaf robot, so it’s good for them that their base is so passionate. The sad part is Romney really was the best of the bunch.[/quote]

You better look at your hero if you want to see a passionless, arrogant leftist drone. Romney on the other hand has actually built businesses. Unlike Obama, he’s been an executive and had to work with people in three different capacities; Bain Capital, head of the Olympics and Massachusetts Governor. And he’s hit it out of the park in all three jobs!

But, you are correct he was the best of the bunch for where the USA currently is economically. Romney is exactly who we need! If elected, unlike Obama blaming Bush, Romney understands the economy and won’t blame Obama for the mess he created the past four years. Like a good executive he’ll roll up his sleeves and get to work!

Hard to believe that anyone would say anything even remotely similar to the above. The man has worked hard in every capacity that he’s been in and has succeeded greatly. He’s spent the past several years running for President but he doesn’t really want it.

Sheesh Christine and I was taking you seriously before you said that.[/quote]

I can not speak for any one else , But as far as I am concerned . I would have done much better if I couldhave started with at least 500 k . IMO you would have been saying look at Pittski what a Republican model he is

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

I doubt that between Columbia, Harvard (with honors), and the HLR Obama could have gotten by without smarts.
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His professor was an unqualified, plagiarist who never should’ve been given tenure. And there’s no reason to believe that it required ‘smarts’ to pass. Academic records withheld of course.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/293539/racial-quota-fallout-thomas-sowell[/quote]

That is a single professor, out of how many that he had? You could pick out one or another of the professors I’ve had throughout undergraduate and graduate school and discredit me too, if that’s all it takes.

And, as I said, he graduated cum laude from Harvard Law. Do you honestly believe that it doesn’t take intelligence to distinguish oneself at Harvard Law?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I can not speak for any one else , But as far as I am concerned . I would have done much better if I couldhave started with at least 500 k . IMO you would have been saying look at Pittski what a Republican model he is [/quote]

Common thought, but completely false.

I could give 100 people 500k tomorrow. If 10 had more money 366 days from now than the 500k they started with, I would be surprised.

A lot, and I mean a vast majority, of the people driving around and living it up, that you think are rich. Aren’t even close. They could be, but they live like they make 20-40% more than they do. This isn’t a rare thing.

You never know how much or how little money someone has. And typically the flashy and louder they are, the less they have.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

Who have I attacked here, Chuckles?[/quote]

Immature name calling is all. But I’ve learned to expect that sort of thing from you.

Romney had a 4 point bounce in two key must win states. And an over all 3 pt bounce nationwide. Not bad considering that there were only about 5% undecided at that point. Let’s see the sort of bounce that Obama gets after Bill Clinton showed him up.

But I do think Romney has an uphill fight. Not because Obama is so good but because the MSLM is in his hip pocket and have been for four years. If Bush had done half the things Obama did wrong they’d have stormed the White House and strung him up.

Now run along little girl.

Gee, I hope that’s not offensive I know how you lefty’s hate the truth.

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Well, chuckles, as far as I can tell, The republican base doesn’t even like him. They will hold their noses and vote for him, but remember the primary races when it was anybody but Romney?

Funny how the poll numbers I have seen thus far show an Obama bounce.

No, I don’t find you offensive. I think you are humorous.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I have to say, Obama is probably the most intelligent man we’ve had as POTUS since Bush Sr. And before that, I would say LBJ, but i seem to remember him the one turning Vietnam into FUBAR status, but may be worng about that.

Obama has made government and government control popular among an entire generation of people, if not across generations but to a majority of the citizenry. A true scholar of history, much like what Hitler did in the 1930’s. (I’m not at all saying Obama is like Hitler, just they champion the same “government is the answer” cause.)

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I’m not so sure about Obama’s intelligence. I think he’s had plenty handed to him in his life for obvious reasons. I also think, judging by the number of vacations and golf outings, that he’s lazy as well. One more point, if you follow the speaking engagements of both Romney and Obama, Romney is out working Obama by about two to one.

That’s called P A S S I O N Christine!

But Obama does have passion…for his golf game.

But if you’re looking for raw intellect they say Jimmy Carter was one of the brightest who ever held the office. And…we know how that worked out.[/quote]

No man, I’m telling you. Obama is a smart motherfucker. He is book smart and best of all so socially/politically smart he has entire groups of people addicted to the idea of him. Groups that are hurt the most under him, and they worship the man…

But, that said I don’t know much about Carter… So I don’t know.

I do think, after looking over the resume, Bush Sr was a badass, and had all the credentials to run shit. If only Clinton could have waited another 4 years.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:
Romney, by pointing out how un-likable he is?

[/quote]

My boss isn’t very likable either, but the man grew up too poor for shoes and now has two commas in his rainy day fund.

I fear for our country when people vote for the leader of the free world based on whether they would hang out with them at the watercooler.

[/quote]

You haven’t been paying attention then. People don’t trust someone who they don’t like.

In 2004, John Kerry was portrayed as an elitist, unlikible, flip-flooper with a highly punchable face.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I have to say, Obama is probably the most intelligent man we’ve had as POTUS since Bush Sr. And before that, I would say LBJ, but i seem to remember him the one turning Vietnam into FUBAR status, but may be worng about that.

Obama has made government and government control popular among an entire generation of people, if not across generations but to a majority of the citizenry. A true scholar of history, much like what Hitler did in the 1930’s. (I’m not at all saying Obama is like Hitler, just they champion the same “government is the answer” cause.)

[/quote]

I’m not so sure about Obama’s intelligence. I think he’s had plenty handed to him in his life for obvious reasons. I also think, judging by the number of vacations and golf outings, that he’s lazy as well. One more point, if you follow the speaking engagements of both Romney and Obama, Romney is out working Obama by about two to one.

That’s called P A S S I O N Christine!

But Obama does have passion…for his golf game.

But if you’re looking for raw intellect they say Jimmy Carter was one of the brightest who ever held the office. And…we know how that worked out.[/quote]

No man, I’m telling you. Obama is a smart motherfucker. He is book smart and best of all so socially/politically smart he has entire groups of people addicted to the idea of him. Groups that are hurt the most under him, and they worship the man…

But, that said I don’t know much about Carter… So I don’t know.

I do think, after looking over the resume, Bush Sr was a badass, and had all the credentials to run shit. If only Clinton could have waited another 4 years. [/quote]

So if things went you’re way, you’d have Reagan run things the way he did for those 8 years, Bush senior for 8 years, Clinton for 8, then who?

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[quote]Christine wrote:
Funny how the poll numbers I have seen thus far show an Obama bounce.

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http://www.nationalpolls.com/

You might find the 9/8 numbers interesting here then…

Seems like a dead heat to me outside of a couple states, taking into account margin of error.

If that is a bounce…