District 9 versus Real Movies

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
jnd wrote:
Shagohod wrote:
jnd wrote:
Who wants to bet me that the Headhunter Princess didn’t even see the movie???

jnd

He left during the first 20 minutes of the movie, thus making his opinion worthless.

If it is true that he has not even seen the entire movie (I do not doubt you, I read the thread and did not see where he actually copped to seeing it at all) then it is truly classic. What a complete tool.

jnd

I said up front that I watched the first 20 minutes, then left. It is a stupid movie. A movie has 20 minutes to convince me that it is worth watching. It didn’t cut the mustard.

Anyone who makes movies, just the basics of making the things, knows this. 20 minutes or out. Then, a quality movie has real acting. Watch Spencer Tracy in the 2nd clip. Watch Gladys George’s face (the veteran’s step-mom) in the first clip. THAT’S real acting.

Watch De Niro’s face when he won’t kill the deer in Deer Hunter. That’s acting.

Well, to each their own I guess. And jnd, quit following me around, puppy…big dogs bite.

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I can’t resist this:

When you spread your idiocy all over the site, I will see it and call you on it.

BTW- you never said that you only watched 20 minutes. Just for the record- Big Dog.

jnd

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

I said up front that I watched the first 20 minutes, then left. It is a stupid movie. A movie has 20 minutes to convince me that it is worth watching. It didn’t cut the mustard.

Anyone who makes movies, just the basics of making the things, knows this. 20 minutes or out.
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LOL obviously the standard rule of film making. The Hurt Locker looks pretty good.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:You make my point – guy comes home from war where he suffered horribly fighting for his country (his dad was reading why he got his medal, remember?) and his country has no use for him. Yep, boring alright. Watching a slob alien eating out of a garbage can is way better.

Jesus…dude, where’s your soul?

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What point?

Your first point about how the clip you posted has more quality than all of a movie you haven’t seen? It might have certain qualities that are better, but the same could be said of District 9.

Or were you talking about your point about people only liking movies because other people like said movies? I gave a valid reason why this isn’t the case.

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[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
Headhunter wrote:

This, or an ugly fucking alien eating out of a garbage can or banging a Nigerian whore…case closed.

There was no footage of an alien banging a bitch ass ho. That is false. Interspecies prostitution was only mentioned once.

Everything you’ve mentioned so far was from the beginning of the film, and another poster mentioned how you claimed to half only watched the first half hour…seems like he was right. Why judge a film without seeing the entire thing?

And you haven’t addressed this:

anonym wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Anonymity wrote:
OP is right, District 9 is a fake movie because the critics and audiences liked it, but he did not.

What an astute observation.

Social Metaphysics at its finest. Tell me, without someone else to give you ‘your’ opinion, whatever would you do? But perhaps such a question is above your paygrade.

“They vomit their gall and call it a (movie).”
— apologies to Nietzsche (you know, the football legend dude…lol)

Weren’t you the dude who, a page back, was defending your position by mentioning how Best Years of Our Lives won numerous Oscars?
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I thought it unnecessary. Look, if we’re going to acclaim a movie because a lot of libs did so, well…okay. That being the measure of greatness then, Best Years won 7 Oscars. Tracy is considered one of the greatest actors who ever lived (I concur.)

If someone claims greatness because lots of people say so, then I can do the same.

You seems somewhat rational; why don’t yoy explain why 9 is a great movie? Is it because of the acting, or the lib message that has all the MSM agog? (Like Obama-mania.)

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
cromwell2007 wrote:
BiggieBenAgain wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Still unable to formulate your own ideas, I see. Public education?

Aren’t you a teacher? So I’m guessing you teach at a private school. You must really feel superior to be teaching students who already have a leg up in society since their parents can afford to pay their way through life. Before you even bother I know my grammar may not be perfect. I teach Math in a public high school. Honors Pre-Calc and Algebra 2. I would put my Pre-Calc students against any private school any day. Public education or any education for that matter has more to do with the parents caring or not. If the parents don’t give a shit it’s much more difficult to get the students to give one. Getting students who had no belief in themselves is very rewarding. But, hey I’m sure when the kids come to you who can afford to pay someone to do their work it’s easier to get them to hand it in.

Thank you for saving me the trouble. Elitism in this regard is a bad thing. Further more save your political views for the forum designed for such things.

Are you trying to address two people here? Public education strikes again.

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I think it was rather clear he was addressing me with the first sentence and you with the rest. but maybe my public school “learnin” simply allowed me to focus on the point and not simply the delivery.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
LarryDavid wrote:
Headhunter wrote:

This, or an ugly fucking alien eating out of a garbage can or banging a Nigerian whore…case closed.

There was no footage of an alien banging a bitch ass ho. That is false. Interspecies prostitution was only mentioned once.

Everything you’ve mentioned so far was from the beginning of the film, and another poster mentioned how you claimed to half only watched the first half hour…seems like he was right. Why judge a film without seeing the entire thing?

And you haven’t addressed this:

anonym wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Anonymity wrote:
OP is right, District 9 is a fake movie because the critics and audiences liked it, but he did not.

What an astute observation.

Social Metaphysics at its finest. Tell me, without someone else to give you ‘your’ opinion, whatever would you do? But perhaps such a question is above your paygrade.

“They vomit their gall and call it a (movie).”
— apologies to Nietzsche (you know, the football legend dude…lol)

Weren’t you the dude who, a page back, was defending your position by mentioning how Best Years of Our Lives won numerous Oscars?

I thought it unnecessary. Look, if we’re going to acclaim a movie because a lot of libs did so, well…okay. That being the measure of greatness then, Best Years won 7 Oscars. Tracy is considered one of the greatest actors who ever lived (I concur.)

If someone claims greatness because lots of people say so, then I can do the same.

You seems somewhat rational; why don’t yoy explain why 9 is a great movie? Is it because of the acting, or the lib message that has all the MSM agog? (Like Obama-mania.)

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You are a riot-a-minute. The reason that you don’t like this movie is because “libs” liked it- and you did not even watch it?

jnd

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
If someone claims greatness because lots of people say so, then I can do the same.[/quote]

More correctly, if YOU claim a movie is great because a lot of people said so, others can do the same (look it up, you initiated the popularity contest).

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
You seems somewhat rational; why don’t yoy explain why 9 is a great movie? Is it because of the acting, or the lib message that has all the MSM agog? (Like Obama-mania.)[/quote]

I actually haven’t seen the movie and probably won’t until it comes out on DVD. Just getting into a movie is $10 where I live and I find theater chairs to be distractingly uncomfortable for extended sitting.

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[quote]anonym wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
If someone claims greatness because lots of people say so, then I can do the same.

More correctly, if YOU claim a movie is great because a lot of people said so, others can do the same (look it up, you initiated the popularity contest).

Headhunter wrote:
You seems somewhat rational; why don’t yoy explain why 9 is a great movie? Is it because of the acting, or the lib message that has all the MSM agog? (Like Obama-mania.)

I actually haven’t seen the movie and probably won’t until it comes out on DVD. Just getting into a movie is $10 where I live and I find theater chairs to be distractingly uncomfortable for extended sitting.[/quote]

Not really. Most here would never have even heard of this movie without it being trumpeted all about.

I watch a lot of old movies (off all summer), and a few newer ones. I can recognize propaganda when I see it. I don’t like the using of movies, where peoples’ guards are down, to advance a social agenda. If it crops up, like in ‘Deer Hunter’ or the ‘Godfather’, that’s fine. But to make it the theme? Who made this 9 movie, Michael Moore?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

I thought it unnecessary. Look, if we’re going to acclaim a movie because a lot of libs did so, well…okay. That being the measure of greatness then, Best Years won 7 Oscars. Tracy is considered one of the greatest actors who ever lived (I concur.)

If someone claims greatness because lots of people say so, then I can do the same.

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Fair enough, but just remember you called someone else out initially for this, not the other way around.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

You seems somewhat rational; why don’t yoy explain why 9 is a great movie? Is it because of the acting, or the lib message that has all the MSM agog? (Like Obama-mania.)

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I don’t see how I could possibly convince you given the way you dismissed not only the idea of what critics have said (your reasoning was justified here), but also the idea of watching the film past the 30 minute mark (not justified since you want to claim it’s a bad film).

In any event, the story was moving and it was paced very well. If you’re offended over the politics of the movie, I can’t really argue with that. Most people may say you shouldn’t hate a film/other work just because you don’t agree with it’s politics, until their personal politics are in conflict with the given entertainment. Nothing’s coming to mind now, but I’m sure I’ve hated something be it a film or something else over it’s politics.

Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I watch a lot of old movies (off all summer), and a few newer ones. I can recognize propaganda when I see it. I don’t like the using of movies, where peoples’ guards are down, to advance a social agenda. If it crops up, like in ‘Deer Hunter’ or the ‘Godfather’, that’s fine. But to make it the theme? Who made this 9 movie, Michael Moore?[/quote]

I had more written in my original response… not sure why it didn’t show up.

Like I said, I haven’t seen the film and actually don’t know much about it outside of what I gathered from a preview - there are aliens on Earth kept in an enclosure, or something to that effect. I wasn’t even aware that it is a highly acclaimed film, much less for being anything other than an entertaining alien flick.

I will say that I also dislike when movies or books push a social agenda or political message (Lee Child’s Nothing to Lose comes to mind), though would I be wrong to suspect that your dislike of District-9 had more to do with the content of the agenda rather than the fact that there was one to begin with? Just a thought, though I have no idea what the social agenda could possibly be (I’m guessing slimy liberal tripe, though I won’t know for sure until someone posts a spoiler or I catch the film in a few months).

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[quote]anonym wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I watch a lot of old movies (off all summer), and a few newer ones. I can recognize propaganda when I see it. I don’t like the using of movies, where peoples’ guards are down, to advance a social agenda. If it crops up, like in ‘Deer Hunter’ or the ‘Godfather’, that’s fine. But to make it the theme? Who made this 9 movie, Michael Moore?

I had more written in my original response… not sure why it didn’t show up.

Like I said, I haven’t seen the film and actually don’t know much about it outside of what I gathered from a preview - there are aliens on Earth kept in an enclosure, or something to that effect. I wasn’t even aware that it is a highly acclaimed film, much less for being anything other than an entertaining alien flick.

I will say that I also dislike when movies or books push a social agenda or political message (Lee Child’s Nothing to Lose comes to mind), though would I be wrong to suspect that your dislike of District-9 had more to do with the content of the agenda rather than the fact that there was one to begin with? Just a thought, though I have no idea what the social agenda could possibly be (I’m guessing slimy liberal tripe, though I won’t know for sure until someone posts a spoiler or I catch the film in a few months).[/quote]

It was basically mimicking the Apartheid that happened in South Africa, but with the use of aliens. It wasn’t even the bad. Sure, it was much more prominent in the beginning of the movie, but that really took a back seat over the course of the movie.

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district 9 is a bad ass movie. The alien robots alone make it 10000x better than “Transformers”

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Honestly, I hope you’re trolling. Who the goes to see a movie, leaves twenty minutes later, and then goes on a message board and start talking shit about said movie?

You’re truly a sad person–pathetic.

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District 9 was one of the worst movies I’ve ever saw. Sure the special effects were good, but they really wasted 2 hours of my life. I thought some 7 yr old kid wrote that script.

Same with Transformers 2.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
… I can recognize propaganda when I see it. I don’t like the using of movies, where peoples’ guards are down, to advance a social agenda. …[/quote]

liberal propaganda??? wtf?

Dude the movie hinted at the aparheith and moved on from there. It did not push any “liberal ideology” or whatever. This was no Fahrenheit 911, or The Day After Tomorrow. Now, some critics and reviewers want to frame this movie in a leftwing-political way, but really, the movie is NOT about politics.

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[quote]Kilosprinter2 wrote:
District 9 was one of the worst movies I’ve ever saw. Sure the special effects were good, but they really wasted 2 hours of my life. I thought some 7 yr old kid wrote that script.

Same with Transformers 2.[/quote]

Do you watch three movies a year or something? One of the “worst movies” you’ve ever seen? Bullshit.

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[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
Kilosprinter2 wrote:
District 9 was one of the worst movies I’ve ever saw. Sure the special effects were good, but they really wasted 2 hours of my life. I thought some 7 yr old kid wrote that script.

Same with Transformers 2.

Do you watch three movies a year or something? One of the “worst movies” you’ve ever seen? Bullshit.
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There are certain people out there that have to hate something that a lot of people like. Somehow, if it isn’t obscure, if a lot of people know about it, it is supposedly bad.

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I really liked the movie :slight_smile: I even watched the whole thing, not just 20 mins…