to forbes, if you drink milk without running to the toilet after to shit the hell out of you, then your are lactose tolerant.
[quote]forbes wrote:
But thats what coach thib said.[/quote]
I’m pretty certain you would be able to ask him - he has a couple of threads going on the site and this question may fit nicely into one of them.
I suggest you ask him because there’s a good reason why he said it and I don’t think it has anything to do with lactose intolerance.
i guess i have taken things a bit too seriously. after all, God did make milk for ppl to drink.
i will continue drinking my homogenized milk then.
just curious though, is there any hormones in milk? does it have any drawbacks?
[quote]forbes wrote:
i guess i have taken things a bit too seriously. after all, God did make milk for ppl to drink.
i will continue drinking my homogenized milk then.
just curious though, is there any hormones in milk? does it have any drawbacks? [/quote]
Cows make milk, not god.
Try getting fresh unpasteurized milk from a local farmer if you can.
but God made the cows.
anyways, i wish i couild get unpasteurized milk from a local farmer, but i cant, cuz we dont have any near by. i get homogenized milk from the local grocery store. its the best i can do.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
DaahsirRoon wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
I’ve gotta add that there’s this myth running around the “evolutionary fitness” realm that we’re the same genetically as our hunter-gatherer ancestors were 100,000 years ago. This isn’t true. Agriculture and animal husbandry have found there way into the human genome in certain population groups of humans.
Human evolution works very quickly. In fact, a paper just came out that said that the rate of human evolution has accelerated with increasing human population. It’s faster now than it ever was.
So these guys like Art DeVaney and other dilettantes (even though I’m one) who say that we’re hunter gatherers and can’t drink milk and eat grain and all this other stuff need to start paying attention to what the population geneticists are saying.
Do you think it is possible to evolve from lactose intolerant to bring on the lactose, and would it be worth the trouble to even try considering the fact that a person could probably get the same nutrients from other sources?
If you weren’t born with the gene, you can’t evolve it. Drink Lactaid or soy milk or eat a ton of broccoli, kale or eat a small amount of cheese. Or take a supplement.
Calcium difficiency probably wasn’t a problem for our ancestors because we had a mean life expectancy of 30 years.
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For those born lactose intolerant does that mean they are missing the gene or that the gene is “damaged”? What about people who aren’t born intolerant but develop it over time? Do you think the gene gets damaged or does like the OP said maybe you have it without symptoms and later the symptoms start to show, i wonder. Though would that mean that any dairy ive consumed during my life hasn’t really been absorbed? and has just been going straight through my system? But the symptoms only started around 16
The way I go about it is that we are the only species on the planet that drinks another animals milk. I figure that does’nt make any sense so I stopped drinking milk.
[quote]anijjar wrote:
The way I go about it is that we are the only species on the planet that drinks another animals milk. I figure that does’nt make any sense so I stopped drinking milk.[/quote]
Do you know of any other animals that drive cars, drink protein shakes, or lift weights?
[quote]anonym wrote:
anijjar wrote:
The way I go about it is that we are the only species on the planet that drinks another animals milk. I figure that does’nt make any sense so I stopped drinking milk.
Do you know of any other animals that drive cars, drink protein shakes, or lift weights?[/quote]
Do you mean man made cars, shakes and weights? No I have not seen to many animals do any of those. Thats exactly my point.
But I have seen a monkey go to space.
[quote]anijjar wrote:
anonym wrote:
anijjar wrote:
The way I go about it is that we are the only species on the planet that drinks another animals milk. I figure that does’nt make any sense so I stopped drinking milk.
Do you know of any other animals that drive cars, drink protein shakes, or lift weights?
Do you mean man made cars, shakes and weights? No I have not seen to many animals do any of those. Thats exactly my point.[/quote]
Yeah, sorry, I misinterpreted your post (my head wasn’t screwed on straight from reading the Quilters thread…I’ve been laughing nonstop).
I was thinking of the whole “it’s not natural” argument.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
I’ve gotta add that there’s this myth running around the “evolutionary fitness” realm that we’re the same genetically as our hunter-gatherer ancestors were 100,000 years ago. This isn’t true.
Agriculture and animal husbandry have found there way into the human genome in certain population groups of humans. Human evolution works very quickly. In fact, a paper just came out that said that the rate of human evolution has accelerated with increasing human population. It’s faster now than it ever was.
So these guys like Art DeVaney and other dilettantes (even though I’m one) who say that we’re hunter gatherers and can’t drink milk and eat grain and all this other stuff need to start paying attention to what the population geneticists are saying. [/quote]
Precisely my thinking.
[quote]anijjar wrote:
The way I go about it is that we are the only species on the planet that drinks another animals milk. I figure that does’nt make any sense so I stopped drinking milk.[/quote]
Do you cook your food?
[quote]DaahsirRoon wrote:
For those born lactose intolerant does that mean they are missing the gene or that the gene is “damaged”? What about people who aren’t born intolerant but develop it over time? Do you think the gene gets damaged or does like the OP said maybe you have it without symptoms and later the symptoms start to show, i wonder.
Though would that mean that any dairy ive consumed during my life hasn’t really been absorbed? and has just been going straight through my system? But the symptoms only started around 16
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A long time ago almost none of us were able to digest milk past early childhood. Since then a few gene variants have appeared and spread; if you have one, you’ll be able to digest milk as an adult.
If you don’t have one, you can possibly handle a glass or two a day because the bacteria in your digestive tract can break some milk down for you (if you gradually train them to), but any more than that and you will have serious symptoms.
More on the evolution of lactase persistence from Gene Expression:
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/08/lactase-persistence-in-eurasia.php
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2008/01/was-lactose-tolerance-inevitable.php
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
anijjar wrote:
The way I go about it is that we are the only species on the planet that drinks another animals milk. I figure that does’nt make any sense so I stopped drinking milk.
Do you cook your food?[/quote]
Yeah for the most part.
I love dairy…but one tall glass of milk and I become a weapon of mass destruction…I will partake occaisionaly knowing that somebody is gonna pay:)
[quote]forbes wrote:
but God made the cows.
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Is this what passes for logic over here?
Last I checked, cows made cows. And they made it for calves to drink. We drink it too because over time we found it’s pretty damn nourishing.
I don’t venture into the BB Forum much. This “logic” is a good example of why.
Loosetool,
you dont believe in God?
And its funny how milk production in mammals is automatic. the cows dont think “hmmmm, i have to make milk for my baby calf”. no, their bodies just produce it. same with humans. this process must’ve had a beginning, and God is the one behind it.
[quote]forbes wrote:
Loosetool,
you dont believe in God?[/quote]
This is the BB Forum, not Politics & World Issues. Cows, milk, god and logic are way off topic.