Thank you very much for that info, very much appreciated!
I read apple cider vinegar is fantastic for prostate health. Donāt quote me on it though; however, it has to have the MOTHER. (strands of proteins, enzymes and friendly bacteria that give the product a murky appearance) Anyone here use ACV MOTHER for prostate health?
Popular choice, 1 teaspoon/tablespoon a day in water or whateverā¦:
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I have some of this at home. Iāll give it a try. Thanks for the tip.
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Iām bumping an old thread ā¦ but it is still of interest to me. At times, my anogasmia gets worse - to the point that no amount of sex or masturbation will generate an orgasm.
Has anyone here used cabergoline for any purpose? And if yes, were there any side effects related to sex/orgasm??
I just started caber because it turns out my prolactin is elevated. But itās only been less than a week so farā¦Iāll let you know.
The side effects of caber always concerned me. Let us know
Funny I googled āfoods you eatā for this. With the exception of some random diet sabatoge, this is basically my daily diet.
Generaly if you cant orgasm, your serotonin is too high.
@roscoe88 - thatās an interesting statementā¦could high seratonin also be to blame for taking a really long time to orgasm? When Iām able to have sex, Iād say my orgasm time is normal to a little longer than normalā¦ But hand jobs and bjs are like the never ending storyā¦
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Absolutely.
Serotonin inhibits/makes difficult the ability to orgasm. Well known.
Iām somewhat the same. As a kids, I could orgasm in seconds upon putting it in. Now, at 40, I last much longer which is soooo nice. Not too long. Itās just more controllable. And without a doubt, handjobs and bjs take way longer.
My gf has gotten so good at bjs as sheās studied what I like about when shes giving them. Like shes analyzed me during the act. So sheās pretty good at making me cum now with them.
But yes, high serotonin inhibits orgasm. This is the issue with SSRIs.
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Very interesting. So e2 upregulates serotonin production in the brain and over production of serotonin can inhibit orgasm. This blows my mind. So whatās the moral of the story? Why do my buddies who do massive steroid cycles with no ai whatsoever never have issues like this? If I even touch on a subject like this they would tell me that if your not getting off three times a day your doing something wrong.
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Good question and itās something ive wondered too.
Maybe their test levels are SO high that the associated higher e2 is somewhat not affecting the test effects. Like the amount of test just outweighs the e2.
I donāt know.
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An interesting question would be ā How high is āSO HIGHā?
I have tested āTā over 2000 (193-740 ng/dL scale) ā¦ but that doesnāt affect orgasms.
I have tested āEā below 5 (25.8-60.7 scale) ā¦ and that doesnāt affect orgasms.
I had high cortisol (which affects serotonin). Once I got it reduced, there was no effect on orgasm.
80% of serotonin is localized in the periphery, where when elevated, it directly reduces sensation in the anatomical structures of the reproductive system as well as diminishing erection, vaginal lubrication, ejaculation, and orgasm. Source (confirms @roscoe88 comments)
And other sites say dopamine deficiency is more likely to cause orgasm problems than serotonin.
I have tested neither.
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Something to keep in mind. In order to achieve an orgasm your mind has to let go of its surroundings. In other words, thoughts have to give way to having the orgasm. Which does relate to serriton levels.
When I had low t and low e2. I needed multiple things going on to orgasm and even get it hard.
Like touching, my nipples getting stimulated, kissing, thoughts, etc.
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Check out this articleā¦ e2 nurtures serotonin and testosterone is the oppositeā¦
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Ironically in order to achieve an orgasm while getting a BJ before the giver gets tired of trying I fantasize about getting a BJ. Iām now laughing at my self
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Iāve been researching the e2 serotonin link all day and itās a rabbit hole with seemingly no real answers. At least none that make sense to me. All I know is it seems the higher my testosterone the harder it is for me to climax. Not sure if itās a serotonin issue or a ratio of testosterone to e2 issue. Itās not a show stopper but I would love to understand the mechanism behind it.
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Found this
The study grew out of a basic observation, said lead researcher Dr. Tung-Chin Hsieh. When men have an orgasm and ejaculate, the amount of the hormone prolactin in the bloodstream surges. Cabergoline lowers prolactin levels, which is why itās used to treat pituitary gland tumors that cause an overabundance of the hormone. Hsieh and his colleagues in the Baylor College menās health clinic started to prescribe cabergoline āoff labelā to see if reducing prolactin levels in men might cure anorgasmia.
It apparently did. In the very preliminary pilot study presented at the American Urological Association meeting, Hsieh said that 50 of the 72 men in the study (69%) said their orgasms improved after taking 0.5 milligrams of cabergoline twice a week for an average of 10 months. Of the 50 men who said things got better, half (26) said their orgasm function returned to normal.
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This is interesting but did they administer caber with no data as to what their prolactin was before treatment? If you have low levels of prolactin already and take caber are there negative consequences?
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