[quote]Minotaur wrote:
Jersey5150 wrote:
Check out Christian Bale in “The Machinist”.
And then check him out in Batman Begins. They said he did that in something like 8 weeks. Hmmm…can you spell HgH?
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I dont know firstly he is not that big. It seems that when you lose that much weight from not eating it comes back pretty quickly when you start eating again.
It doesnt seem to me that losing the weight he lost once regained would leave him back at square one befor he ever lifted at all. Just a thought.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Vroomy, just kinda wondering who you were talking to? Or were you talking to the thread in general?
Haven’t you heard, there is a moratorium on quoting…[/quote]
Can I quote you on that?
On topic though, after a realy serious accident when I was 20, I wasn’t able to eat for a few weeks, and was kept alive by I.V. feeding through the sub-clavian artery. I lost about 20 lbs. down to about 120(@5’9"). Once I got back to eating food and out of the hospital, my weight shot back up to 140 in no time. Must have something to do with cell volume and myo-fibrills.
As far as self criticism goes, I have alsways been prety hard on my self, always seeing room for improvement and tweaking. What I wonder is how people can blow up to 400 and over with out doing something about it. You would think that somewhere along the road to a few hundred pounds overweight, a person would think-“maybee this is a little out of hand. Maybeee I should get up for my food instead of having it brought to me.”
[quote]mindeffer01 wrote:
vroom wrote:
Vroomy, just kinda wondering who you were talking to? Or were you talking to the thread in general?
Haven’t you heard, there is a moratorium on quoting…
Can I quote you on that?
On topic though, after a realy serious accident when I was 20, I wasn’t able to eat for a few weeks, and was kept alive by I.V. feeding through the sub-clavian artery. I lost about 20 lbs. down to about 120(@5’9"). Once I got back to eating food and out of the hospital, my weight shot back up to 140 in no time. Must have something to do with cell volume and myo-fibrills.
As far as self criticism goes, I have alsways been prety hard on my self, always seeing room for improvement and tweaking. What I wonder is how people can blow up to 400 and over with out doing something about it. You would think that somewhere along the road to a few hundred pounds overweight, a person would think-“maybee this is a little out of hand. Maybeee I should get up for my food instead of having it brought to me.”
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I wonder how many people who get up to 400 lbs. or so actually end up losing the weight. You hear about them because it makes good copy. I wonder how many never do.
God dammit. I knew I shouldn’t have looked at this thread again. Now I’ll have to fight back the waves of nauseua so I can eat my meal before I go to the gym.
[quote]danreeves1973 wrote:
I think one day they’ll figure out that all the body image neuroses (? on the spelling) are all related in some way. Thinking you’re too fat or too thin, or not big enough, its all related back to some underlying cause.
I do recall from a psych class I took in college that one eating disorder clinic felt that all eating disorders in women were caused by past sexual abuse, usually repressed so the person didn’t remember it.[/quote]
Nah. That’s not what’s thought anymore. The biggest underliers are control issues and a drive for perfection/perfectionist personality. Most of the women that get eating disorders are superhigh achievers or high achievers that feel the need to excel. They also tend have very controlling parents, especially controlling mothers. This is compounded by media images and the value our society places on thinness. A girl will lose a few pounds a get complements and feel good about herself. For some it tend to get out of hand with life events being catylysts. They’ll often feel like their lives are spining out of control. Perfectionist and high achievers with control issues can’t stand this. But one thing they can control is their body. They’ll get lots of positive feedback too. People will think they look great too. By the time they start to look sick and people notice, the disorder has already progressed a lot. The sad thing is it’s a vicious cycle. Starts out as a drive to be perfect and have control over something, but the disorder ends up controlling them.
[quote]mindeffer01 wrote:
You would think that somewhere along the road to a few hundred pounds overweight, a person would think-“maybee this is a little out of hand. Maybeee I should get up for my food instead of having it brought to me.” [/quote]
You would think, and I would think, and 99.9% of us on here would think exactly that. But apparently some don’t. When you really think about it, it’s amazing. Every day life. Every day things. Walking. Taking a crap. Eating. Watching all of the “beautiful people” on tv. Playing with kids. Having sex (oh bad thought, bad thought). Buying bigger and bigger and BIGGER clothes year after year after year. etc.
It’s one thing to wake up one day at 25% bodyfat and say, “Damnit lardass, YOU need to start working out and eating right again!” It’s an entirely different scenario to get to 400, 500, 600 pounds and what, 50%, 60%, 70% BF? (Interesting side, I wonder what is the highest bf% on record.)
So yeah, weird. What DOES happen? One just wakes up one day and weighs 400 pounds? “Cool. Anothter cool 100 and I’m at the half century mark!”
It’s hard for us to accept that people (some of us can’t even call them that) can get so out of hand. So disgusting. Really they are putrid to even look at. BUT, “different strokes for different folks” - it’s what makes the world go 'round.
So, I don’t feel sorry for them in the “they can’t help it” way, but I do pity them the way I do the Down’s syndrome people here at the office that dump garbage and collect recyclables.
Then I read one of Shugart’s rants and feel a burning desire to go kick fat people in the head.