Read some of the comments, some people are going insane over what he says in this article.
The worst ones start with “I am a registered dietician and…”
[quote]schultzie wrote:
Read some of the comments, some people are going insane over what he says in this article.
The worst ones start with “I am a registered dietician and…”[/quote]
OH… MY… GOD… you arent kidding. those comments have so much lulz in them.
“it still misses the biggest issue; dieting doesn’t work, and isn’t necessary. Period. The author references some studies, but doesn’t mention 50 years of research that came up with exactly zero successful, long-term diets. Ever. None of them will ever work. Your body is too smart to be tricked; if it wants you to weigh X pounds, and you aren’t starving to death, you WILL get to that weight, give or take a few pounds.”
“I tried going with a high protein [read: probably low protein compared to our diets] diet. Gastro upset, chest pains, elevated cholesterol, weakness, headaches, and a constant feeling of nausea was the trade off for a few pounds…”
“You’re stupid. I read the first one, and you’re already misleading people. Too much protein DOES hurt the kidneys…”
“Smart people will find the truth and that is that animal fats and proteins are HORRIBLY DISGUSTING and in NO WAY good for the body.”
“I am a Registered Dietitian and have found this article to be terribly misreading [sic, LOL], almost dangerous… One of the most disturbing things of this article is the section on protein.Protein in extreme amounts on a daily basis is very hard on your kidneys… Beef is linked with cancer… salt is the main cause of high blood pressure…”
“If anything, ignoramuses like this author is contributing to America’s high obesity and diabetes… 150-180 g proteins everyday? Is he nuts? A very high-protein [180gms is very high LOL] and fat diet could potentially harm and stress the kidneys… too much protein is that it leeches calcium from the bones… High intakes of salt does greatly increase the likelihood of blood pressure in some people [i hope one day i will have blood pressure]”
“I majored in Kinesiology and have taken several ex phys classes among others, that qualifies my opinion… Professional athletes bodies can only store 1.8 grams of protein/ kilo of body weight. 160 grams of protein in a day is def excessive, and will overtax even healthy kidneys.”
i made it to page 5 of the comments. im done reading that garbage… i feel this article was definitely a good step for mainstream diet/health advice but obviously a lot of people are too stubborn/brainwashed/ignorant to take it seriously.
If I was a “registered whatever” I would actually have not waste my time to create a account or porfile(in most cases required) just to say I am and here is my opinion on why the article is false.
I would want to call these people out for them to post actual anecdotal evidence of their statements.
Pretty decent article.
There is a reason I never read the comments on an article.
I have a degree in Pharmacology and 95% of the comments on that website were written by people on drugs.
And by “drugs” I mean retard pills.
[quote]Vir wrote:
I have a degree in Pharmacology and 95% of the comments on that website were written by people on drugs.
And by “drugs” I mean retard pills.[/quote]
As a sidenote, are there drugs that lower your IQ?
I seem to remember a House episode where a guy deliberately dumbed himself down with pills and took a shot of alchol in order to avoid sideeffects?
Is that possible?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Vir wrote:
I have a degree in Pharmacology and 95% of the comments on that website were written by people on drugs.
And by “drugs” I mean retard pills.[/quote]
As a sidenote, are there drugs that lower your IQ?
I seem to remember a House episode where a guy deliberately dumbed himself down with pills and took a shot of alchol in order to avoid sideeffects?
Is that possible?
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lol, try reading a book on quantum physics after a night of drinking and find out for yourself.
Memory, cognition, attention span etc are all affected either positively/negatively by numerous drugs. Depressant drugs such as alcohol, sedatives (think One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest) and tranquillisers/anaesthetics (e.g. Ketamine or heroin/morphine) can affect different aspects of your “IQ”, but all will get you drunk or high or whatever you feel whilst on them.
Uppers such as speed/cocaine, ADHD drugs (Ritalin or atomoxetine) or even your good old caffeine can improve cognition and/or attention span. Smart pills are now becoming a reality too, you can buy many different compounds perfectly legally if you know what your’re looking for and where to look for them, such as the racetam group of drugs and other nootropics. I’m sure you’ve heard of all the medical students in the U.S.A who use Ritalin to get that last minute cramming session in or do an all night session to get that essay done.
TBH though I can’t think of any well known drugs that will make you stupid without getting you high/drunk (besides there is no demand for such a drug), there are many compounds used experimentally on mice that affect memory and/or cognition and learning, mostly called (if you want to research it) NDMA receptor antagonists, which are designed to specifically inhibit certain NMDA receptors to prevent learning/memory. Ketamine is an NDMA receptor antagonist too.
I’ve seen that House episode too, dunno if it was based on sound science or not, can’t remember the details.
Summary/medical review of aforementioned house episode:
[quote]CornSprint wrote:
Summary/medical review of aforementioned house episode:
http://www.politedissent.com/archives/4060
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Thanks CS. Your link mentions that he’d be “tripping” all the time on the drug, which is what I suspected. You don’t get many drugs that act in the CNS that only have a single effect.
[quote]SpnKick540 wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I smell inconsistency. He talks about how low-fat is usually not the healthier option because it tends to have more sugar, then goes ahead and recommends low-fat milk.[/quote]
Word choices are key in the myth about low-fat.
[quote]Article wrote:
Reality: Less fat often means more sugar[/quote]
“Often” doesn’t mean “always” and is used specifically to allow for exceptions to the rule. You even touched on that by your own use of the phrase “is [u]usually[/u] not the healthier option…”
And as far as I understand, so far, most of us keep fat low and carbs high in the post-workout window anyway. So what’s your beef with recommending low-fat white or chocolate milk?
Overall, it’s good to see this kind of information making its way into the realm of the general public, IMO.[/quote]
Yep, I got that. From my experience,though, low fat milk hasn’t been an exception. The milk I’ve looked at had more sugar in the lower fat varieties. I personally don’t drink milk anymore. I just don’t understand why it has to be low fat. I think it’s good to get people aware of the benefits of full fat dairy, so as to not further perpetuate fat-phobia.
I’ve never seen a jerky whose primary ingredient was not either beef or turkey or whatever meat it is based upon. Never. Jack Link’s is the most abundant in the Northeast U.S. and its ingredient list invariably begins with beef and water. There is soybean in the dried soy sauce for some of the flavors but this comprises FAR less than 2% of the total. There is no respectable jerky–even one sold in gas stations–that contains an appreciable amount of soy protein.
OMFG I want to punch 75% of the article commentators.
Like this one :
But glad to see that some of the commentators are better informed than the fatties.
Haha this one has to be someone from TNation, with all the IF talk going on lately:
[quote]Vir wrote:
I have a degree in Pharmacology and 95% of the comments on that website were written by people on drugs.
And by “drugs” I mean retard pills.[/quote]
I literally lol’d!
I suppose the article is a step in the right direction. It’s funny how dietary information is STARTING to move forward, but is still probably about 10 years behind. OK, multiple smaller meals, some protein at each feeding, etc… It’s stuff I was reading back around 2002, and yet it provokes outrage in many of these commentators. Ridiculous.
R.D. or not, when you have 65% of a population overweight or obese, it’s time to admit that conventional wisdom has failed. It’s time to be open to some new ideas - even “radical” notions like protein “overload” or deliberately eating saturated fat.
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
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This is like saying, “I’ve driven drunk on multiple occasions and have not had any accidents. Therefore the notion that driving drunk is dangerous is wrong - it leads to safe driving.”
This might be the same person on Yahoo who questioned the news about the Russians invading Georgia because he lives in Atlanta and he didn’t see a single tank or armed Russian.