Rand McCLain! LOL!!!
Here’s just one out of over a HUNDRED I’ve got. This one is from a consult I did just YESTERDAY (in his patient history notes that he provided me):
I could send these all afternoon and evening posting some of the crazy messages I have on Rand. He wants guys to have their E2 at FIFTEEN!!
How many times do I have to repeat the mantra anecdotes are not data.
As far as McClain, this is about the highest grade I’ve ever seen for a doctor. Congrats Dr. McClain!!
He’s the laughing stock among the physicians I work with.
I’m so happy to know that online reviews (that can be added by literally anyone) is what provides you with credibility.
You couldn’t have any less of a lack of critical thinking if I paid you.
I might add, I invited him for a debate on estradiol to which he declined. He mentioned it to some of his patients who in turn messaged me. They said he would get his ass handed to him because he has ZERO evidence to support anything he is suggesting.
Well he’s not sending people to the hospital like your guru.
If you think he is such a wonderful doc, please do provide your evidence as to why estradiol should be kept at 15 pg/mL for men on TRT.
I would absolutely LOVE to see your evidence for this one.
This was a nurse practitioner, not Neal. Are you for real? I know the entire backstory to this one. Do you? To cover her ass, she claimed that she learned everything from a Neal Rouzier lecture to remove the heat from her and put him in the spotlight because he’s extremely well known.
Do you know anything about anything?
Why are you hijacking the OP’s thread bringing up Rand McClain and Neal Rouzier?? Is this an attempt to not provide the evidence I requested? Are you going to keep digging this hole you’re in?
Funny how people are always lying in your world. My golf buddies, my dealer meeting buddies, the guys who got tested at 500 and have normal drive and erections. And now the nurse practitioner who is a disciple of fat Neal Rouzier. Things that make you go hmm…
Yup. All lying.
He is THE most sought after physician in the area of HRT. Virtually every doc I know has attended his lectures. Some go several times a year. There is literally nobody out there who lectures more at depth on this kind of thing.
But, yeah… they’re all full of shit and you’re the brilliant anonymous person on T-Nation that knows how this all works. Right…
Provide evidence of 15 pg/mL of estradiol being beneficial to health or concede and STFU.
I’ve never said 15 is optimal. I understand Rand likes to keep most of his patients between 15-20 but in interviews he’s said some guys need to go higher.
I don’t feel a weird need to defend Rand on everything like you do with fat Neal Rouzier.
Resorting to commenting on a world renowned physician’s weight… who’s in his seventies, instead of his knowledge on the subject. He has forgotten more on the subject than you could ever dream learning about.
You have demonstrated the IQ of tap water and the maturity of a 5 year old.
Rouzier worship is the weirdest worship
I don’t ‘worship’ the man, you moron. I don’t worship anybody. I don’t need to worship someone to admire their intellect and vast knowledge on a subject.
Can you possibly get any dumber here? You make claims you can’t back up. When asked for evidence you provide none. Then insult a physician not by his intellect but by calling him fat.
How old are you? 12? Have you even hit puberty yet? TRT is for adults you know, not little children.
Perhaps you can consider a few more years playing in the sandbox prior to revisiting a place where adults talk?
I plan to interject on any thread where you’re giving your shitty advice with my great advice. Get used to me
You should start your own YouTube channel! You’ll be famous!
Now, if only you could provide evidence to support anything you’ve ever stated, that would be an incredible start.
Start by explaining why this is a good thing.
I don’t believe in controlling E2 so why would I do that?
If you follow this chart until the point you are feeling really good, your E2 will generally be fine.
You just said Rand McClain is the greatest doctor ever.
Rand keeps his guy’s E2 at 15.
You don’t believe in managing estradiol.
So either you’re confused, or you’re a liar.
Citation please moron
