Testosterone should never be injected any less frequency than once a week. If your doc is giving you an injection every three weeks, run, don’t walk from this guy as he will do you more harm than good.
2 Likes
Clearly your doctor doesn’t know how to administer TRT, every 3 weeks is a horrible protocol and is why you felt a crash. You will need to inject minimum one or more times per week because you need your testosterone levels elevated 24/7 and not just the first couple of days after your shots.
You need to find a doctor that is well versed in TRT, your doctor clearly isn’t because he is following outdated guidelines.
Testosterone is cardio protective and has positive effects on the cardiovascular system, it regulates lean muscle mass/fat mass and there is a reason why you feel so good on TRT. To deny yourself adequate levels of testosterone, you envitie multiple health issues down the road.
A myth created by doctors with no actual data clearly showing a connection between TRT and prostate cancer, in fact low-T men tend to get more aggressive prostate cancer versus those with higher testosterone.
There is data showing people with higher testosterone being discharged from hospitals and recovering from physical injuries sooner.
He offered to let me self administer at home. I think I can probably start self administering and taking shots as frequently as I want.
He is my GP, I don’t disagree that a specialist would be able to administer me more effectively but I worry about going somewhere else without a referral first because I don’t want to come off the test completely and have to start the whole process over again (bloodwork etc).
Wouldn’t count on this. You’re just a likely to get good advice from forums like this (or Danny’s FB group) as you would a ‘specialist’
I like this protocol…you’ll be able to judge how you feel on each day of the testosterone that is actually being released. Right now you are 5 days after a shot of 200 so your body is giving you about 9mg of Test. I’d keep your current dosing for now and gauge how you feel as you head down this slope.
@crashnet You are doing people an unbelieveable disservice by providing the advice that you do.
@wormwood0077 kindly ignore anything from @crashnet
If you go to a clinic that specializes in HRT/TRT (if you tell me where you are located I can see if I can refer someone) and tell them you are already on therapy and want to switch providers, they will NOT tell you to get off to get your baseline levels.
If ANYONE ever gets told this by a new provider, please let me know who the provider is and where they are located.
@wormwood0077 I’d say just ignore @dbossa and his awful advice. I used the exact same chart(150 instead of 200 for me) as above to find my sweet spot and have never been happier with TRT.
@dbossa advice is both idiotic and contradictory at the same time. For example, he’ll tell you that steroid plotter’s detail of the actual hormone being released in your body is “irrelevant”. And, believe it or not, at the same time he’ll tell you that you’re on a terrible protocol because “your levels will crash” before your next shot. Do you see how stupid and contradictory this is?
He’s literally saying your levels don’t matter and your levels matter at the same time…lol
@crashnet, your thinking of TRT is stuck in first gear. All your advice is based on your own experience of what works for you. I’ve personally worked with over 2000 guys and don’t let what works for me personally get in the way.
There is a reason I get 20-50 emails a day for requests for help. Everything you just said in your post above demonstrates zero understanding of my perspective on this subject.
Your advice is harmful. Nobody here takes you seriously (not sure if you’ve figured this out yet or not). You are in NO POSITION, by any stretch of the imagination, to give advice to anyone on this subject whatsoever.
If you have symptoms of low T and your total T measures at 200, I think it’s pretty safe to say that you are measurably deficient.
If this isn’t obvious to you, you’re just too slow for me to explain anything further.
The reason you get 20-50 emails a day for requests for help is because you are a ubiquitous presence here and on social media. You’re the @KSman of 2019-2020 and a year from now you’ll fade away like he did.
@wormwood0077 you now have the perfect opportunity to gauge your sense of well-being as the actual hormone being released is going down. You said you feel great 5 days after your shot. Well that means you feel great at 9mg a day. Now in 1 week you’ll only be getting 3mg of Test. That will probably be too low. Great opportunity for you to gauge how you feel in the next 7 days.
You’re telling a guy he should have 3mg of test.
I crown thee “Lord King of Bro-Science”
Here’s a chart of where you were 21 days after that shot of 100. No wonder you felt terrible! You were only getting a half a milligram of Test at that point!
Actually, 75% or more is from referrals. Guys I’ve helped who told their friends to contact me.
KSMAN was anonymous. Everyone knows who I am and how to find me.
I have a large network of doctors that I refer based on location that I have personally vetted with zero financial interest. KSMAN just did everything himself. Most of it contradicted the literature.
You are talking of things you have no clue about.
@wormwood0077 find my email in my profile and send me an email.
So my recommendation going forward is to see if you feel better or worse over the next 7 days. You’re saying you “feel great” at 9mg of Test. If that turns out to be your best feeling day, you’ll know you need about 85mg of Test E a week. You’ll be dialed in no time while the high dose pushers will be saying “You got to wait 8 or 12 weeks”. Convenient for them, no?
God damn you’re slow.
Like you, @KSman had hundreds if not thousands of people thanking him for finally dialing in their protocol thanks to E2=21. Anecdotes are not data.
KSMAN didn’t have 50+ physicians he was working with.
You don’t have a clue what I do. Not a clue.
Rand McClain is a physician and likewise has hundreds to thousands of satisfied patients. You’re really nothing in this world.