[quote]ukrainian wrote:
So, anyone want to tell me if it was the old lady that was the devil all along? That was my first guess from seeing the trailer. Also: http://www.cracked.com/blog/m-night-shyamalan-is-making-a-trilogy-of-movies-really/[/quote]
Just google Devil spoilers and ending, it’s pretty fucking cheesy from what I’ve read.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Okay, so The 6th Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs were his strong films.
Failures were The Happening, The Village, Lady in the Water, And The Last Air Bender (apologies if I missed any).
Is that a bad average? Does that make him a shitty film maker?
Picasso created about 10,000 pieces of art. Of those only around 100 (or even less) are considered masterpieces. That’s a pretty shitty average.
Yet he’s considered a genius. [/quote]
Picasso painted a 100 masterpieces, M. Night created three good movies.
The 6th Sense isn’t an amazing film, it’s straight forward with a twist at the end, even though somehow I figured it out in the first five minutes. Maybe it’s my twist detector, same thing with Shutter Island and The Messengers.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Okay, so The 6th Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs were his strong films.
Failures were The Happening, The Village, Lady in the Water, And The Last Air Bender (apologies if I missed any).
Is that a bad average? Does that make him a shitty film maker?
Picasso created about 10,000 pieces of art. Of those only around 100 (or even less) are considered masterpieces. That’s a pretty shitty average.
Yet he’s considered a genius. [/quote]
Picasso painted a 100 masterpieces, M. Night created three good movies.
The 6th Sense isn’t an amazing film, it’s straight forward with a twist at the end, even though somehow I figured it out in the first five minutes. Maybe it’s my twist detector, same thing with Shutter Island and The Messengers. [/quote]
Don’t flatter yourself, most people I know figured out the twists, the main thing about shutter island was the attention to detail, manner in which the twist was revealed and the specifics of the twist that made it an awesome movie.
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Okay, so The 6th Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs were his strong films.
Failures were The Happening, The Village, Lady in the Water, And The Last Air Bender (apologies if I missed any).
Is that a bad average? Does that make him a shitty film maker?
Picasso created about 10,000 pieces of art. Of those only around 100 (or even less) are considered masterpieces. That’s a pretty shitty average.
Yet he’s considered a genius. [/quote]
Picasso painted a 100 masterpieces, M. Night created three good movies.
The 6th Sense isn’t an amazing film, it’s straight forward with a twist at the end, even though somehow I figured it out in the first five minutes. Maybe it’s my twist detector, same thing with Shutter Island and The Messengers. [/quote]
At least you had that luxury. I hadn’t yet seen The 6th Sense when my wife’s sister openly talked about it in my company. When I finally saw it, it lost the impact (though still quite a good film).
lol
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Okay, so The 6th Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs were his strong films.
Failures were The Happening, The Village, Lady in the Water, And The Last Air Bender (apologies if I missed any).
Is that a bad average? Does that make him a shitty film maker?
Picasso created about 10,000 pieces of art. Of those only around 100 (or even less) are considered masterpieces. That’s a pretty shitty average.
Yet he’s considered a genius. [/quote]
Picasso painted a 100 masterpieces, M. Night created three good movies.
The 6th Sense isn’t an amazing film, it’s straight forward with a twist at the end, even though somehow I figured it out in the first five minutes. Maybe it’s my twist detector, same thing with Shutter Island and The Messengers. [/quote]
At least you had that luxury. I hadn’t yet seen The 6th Sense when my wife’s sister openly talked about it in my company. When I finally saw it, it lost the impact (though still quite a good film).
lol
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Agreed. Most of us may be able to figure out what the plot MAY be…but if you knew for sure exactly what every aspect of the ending would be, why the fuck would you watch it?
You don’t get extra points for screaming out spoilers during a movie and you really don’t get them for acting like some super movie detective that no twist can ever confuse.
The sixth sense was a very good movie. I am sure most people may have guessed that he MAY be dead, but anyone who really sat through the movie yawning at it like the ending was mapped out clearly from the beginning is either lying or being a douche. They did a VERY good job of hiding the fact he was dead…because, shit, the character himself needed to be convinced.
I think you’re all a little off basis about The Village. It’s not like it was a total turd sandwich. The setting, ambience, and general mood of the movie was very well done. Yes, the ending was a little contrived and tacked-on, but it wasn’t enough to ruin my movie experience for it. This may just be my opinion, but I don’t see why people are so critical of it.
I saw Devil last night and am pretty pleased with it. Some of the people I went to see it with liked it, but thought the ending wasn’t good enough. I don’t really know any other way to have properly ended it… I don’t want to say it’s an outright ‘twist,’ but if you see the movie I’d recommend NOT trying to get caught up in all the little things it presents and just enjoy the experience. There’s no substantial or fesible way to predict the ending with blind assumptions.
[quote]SSC wrote:
I think you’re all a little off basis about The Village. It’s not like it was a total turd sandwich. The setting, ambience, and general mood of the movie was very well done. Yes, the ending was a little contrived and tacked-on, but it wasn’t enough to ruin my movie experience for it. This may just be my opinion, but I don’t see why people are so critical of it.
I saw Devil last night and am pretty pleased with it. Some of the people I went to see it with liked it, but thought the ending wasn’t good enough. I don’t really know any other way to have properly ended it… I don’t want to say it’s an outright ‘twist,’ but if you see the movie I’d recommend NOT trying to get caught up in all the little things it presents and just enjoy the experience. There’s no substantial or fesible way to predict the ending with blind assumptions.[/quote]
The Village was a great Twilight Zone episode. It caught hell because they ADVERTISED IT as a horror movie just like they do with all of his movies…but when he directs them, they aren’t scary.
His MARKETING has killed some of his past films. Unbreakable was one of the first super hero movies out in over a decade when it was released. It was before the mega super hero love Hollywood is showing now. They didn’t advertise it as such…and still get people today who even saw it who can’t figure out that this is what Bruce Willis was supposed to be.
The average person today has a very short attention span. They won’t notice that the plot of Avatar is basic as hell as long as you keep throwing flying bugs and blue people in their face.
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
[quote]ukrainian wrote:
So, anyone want to tell me if it was the old lady that was the devil all along? That was my first guess from seeing the trailer. Also: M. Night Shyamalan is Making a Trilogy. Of Movies. Really. | Cracked.com [/quote]
Just google Devil spoilers and ending, it’s pretty fucking cheesy from what I’ve read. [/quote]
SPOILER ALERT!!!
Called it.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Let’s remember that he only WROTE THE STORY for Devil. The only reason you people think this movie was OK is because someone ELSE wrote the SCREENPLAY and someone ELSE DIRECTED it. IN fact this is what M Night should do from now on, just write some fucking stories. He can’t write screenplays for shit or direct.[/quote]
I agree 100%…because I find it hard to believe the guy who came up with that Airbender crap suddenly made a good flick.
This explains it. He let someone else do it.
He should have done the same for the Village and Lady in the Water.[/quote]
Are you saying that “The 6th Sense” and “Unbreakable” were flukes?
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I think the man has a great idea every once in a while…but I also think he had ZERO passion for the Last Airbender and simply did it for the money.
For that, he loses credit with me.[/quote]
This brings up an interesting topic.
In art, it’s often said that you’re only as good as your last painting. But does that negate the true greatness of past work?
A friend of mine is a photographer. He’s brilliant at times, and when I say so, he dismisses it, saying, “Anyone can shoot several rolls of film, find ONE shot among them that’s masterful, then display it as a stand-alone. The public has no idea how many failures you went through before hitting that one shot.”
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I think the artist should be judged on his or her entire body of work, every piece they did. I’m sure no artist went into a screenplay, the drawing board or a slab of clay and said “I’m going to go mediocre on this one”.
Perhaps in Hollywood critics are tougher, they don’t give many chances (one dud, maybe two and they’re off) before moving people off the A-list. Which doesn’t explain why Ben Affleck still gets roles but that’s another thread altogether.
I sometimes listen to music artists and think after hearing a song, how can they top that one, what could possibly sound better than that. Then BOOM they hit another masterpiece.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Okay, so The 6th Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs were his strong films.
Failures were The Happening, The Village, Lady in the Water, And The Last Air Bender (apologies if I missed any).
Is that a bad average? Does that make him a shitty film maker?
Picasso created about 10,000 pieces of art. Of those only around 100 (or even less) are considered masterpieces. That’s a pretty shitty average.
Yet he’s considered a genius. [/quote]
Picasso painted a 100 masterpieces, M. Night created three good movies.
The 6th Sense isn’t an amazing film, it’s straight forward with a twist at the end, even though somehow I figured it out in the first five minutes. Maybe it’s my twist detector, same thing with Shutter Island and The Messengers. [/quote]
At least you had that luxury. I hadn’t yet seen The 6th Sense when my wife’s sister openly talked about it in my company. When I finally saw it, it lost the impact (though still quite a good film).
lol
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RIGHT. Primal Fear come on down!
I’m glad Village and Lady in the Water were both not ruined the way 6th Sense was for me. I actually liked Signs. I’m glad he puts effort in making his films and not glaze over details.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Okay, so The 6th Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs were his strong films.
Failures were The Happening, The Village, Lady in the Water, And The Last Air Bender (apologies if I missed any).
Is that a bad average? Does that make him a shitty film maker?
Picasso created about 10,000 pieces of art. Of those only around 100 (or even less) are considered masterpieces. That’s a pretty shitty average.
Yet he’s considered a genius. [/quote]
Picasso painted a 100 masterpieces, M. Night created three good movies.
The 6th Sense isn’t an amazing film, it’s straight forward with a twist at the end, even though somehow I figured it out in the first five minutes. Maybe it’s my twist detector, same thing with Shutter Island and The Messengers. [/quote]
At least you had that luxury. I hadn’t yet seen The 6th Sense when my wife’s sister openly talked about it in my company. When I finally saw it, it lost the impact (though still quite a good film).
lol
[/quote]
Agreed. Most of us may be able to figure out what the plot MAY be…but if you knew for sure exactly what every aspect of the ending would be, why the fuck would you watch it?
You don’t get extra points for screaming out spoilers during a movie and you really don’t get them for acting like some super movie detective that no twist can ever confuse.
The sixth sense was a very good movie. I am sure most people may have guessed that he MAY be dead, but anyone who really sat through the movie yawning at it like the ending was mapped out clearly from the beginning is either lying or being a douche. They did a VERY good job of hiding the fact he was dead…because, shit, the character himself needed to be convinced.[/quote]
Calm down, you sound like an '09er or something. All I said was I figured out the twist. Didn’t say I didn’t enjoy the movie, or that I didn’t flip out when the kid was trapped, or when he saw the dead people. I also got a little sketched out when the end table was blocking the door and when he was sitting in the restaurant.
[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
Let’s remember that he only WROTE THE STORY for Devil. The only reason you people think this movie was OK is because someone ELSE wrote the SCREENPLAY and someone ELSE DIRECTED it. IN fact this is what M Night should do from now on, just write some fucking stories. He can’t write screenplays for shit or direct.[/quote]
I agree 100%…because I find it hard to believe the guy who came up with that Airbender crap suddenly made a good flick.
This explains it. He let someone else do it.
He should have done the same for the Village and Lady in the Water.[/quote]
Are you saying that “The 6th Sense” and “Unbreakable” were flukes?
[/quote]
I think the man has a great idea every once in a while…but I also think he had ZERO passion for the Last Airbender and simply did it for the money.
For that, he loses credit with me.[/quote]
This brings up an interesting topic.
In art, it’s often said that you’re only as good as your last painting. But does that negate the true greatness of past work?
A friend of mine is a photographer. He’s brilliant at times, and when I say so, he dismisses it, saying, “Anyone can shoot several rolls of film, find ONE shot among them that’s masterful, then display it as a stand-alone. The public has no idea how many failures you went through before hitting that one shot.”
[/quote]
I think the artist should be judged on his or her entire body of work, every piece they did. I’m sure no artist went into a screenplay, the drawing board or a slab of clay and said “I’m going to go mediocre on this one”.
Perhaps in Hollywood critics are tougher, they don’t give many chances (one dud, maybe two and they’re off) before moving people off the A-list. Which doesn’t explain why Ben Affleck still gets roles but that’s another thread altogether.
I sometimes listen to music artists and think after hearing a song, how can they top that one, what could possibly sound better than that. Then BOOM they hit another masterpiece.
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Like Snoop Dogg’s Drop it Like it’s Hot and then Beautiful came out?
Wanted to give ‘Devil’ a shot.
Man, I’ve become such a pansy: I actually do as much ‘research’ before watching a film as the film in question lasts. Sad, but true with so much shit hitting the tubes and canvas.
Btw, ‘Signs’ was Shymalan at the top of this game, imho.
I’ve never been that ‘scared’ by a film as during the in-movie news footage of that Brazilian birthday party.
Unbreakable had a good concept I could respect as a comic aficionado. And a cool film score. Besides, that bench pressing scene was cool. I also tried it but underestimated the effect hanging and mobile weights might have on my bench press. Ouchie!
As a tangential: watched Eden Lake, recently. Great film! Very representational. Without the need to borrow from the supernatural. And a tasty (albeit somewhat bookish) female lead, too.