Designer Steroid, Only Thing Available

[quote]INTERNETWARLORD wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]pumped340 wrote:

[quote]INTERNETWARLORD wrote:
This site cites a number of bodybuilders who have had liver failures and other problems as a result of OTC designer steroids.

Superdrol was developed by the same company that produced Anadrol, but unlike Anadrol it was deemed as being too unsafe for use, which should tell you a little bit about it.

Are you not able to access real gear? Then you should not be using steroids. What do you think will happen to your sex drive when you take a steroid that shuts down your endogenous Test production, raises prolactin (which inhibits HPTA even worse than estrogen) and you aren’t taking testosterone with it? You lose your sex drive then you crash hard. I have heard enough of S-Drol that I will never use it, and this is from a guy who has done test, tren, deca, anadrol, d-bol, clen… Pretty much any steroid you can think of. I don’t fuck with any steroid that I can buy at GNC.[/quote]

Really? I have never read of anyone having liver failure from SD or the like, especially on this site. The most I have read was raised liver enzymes.

As for the 2nd part. I do have PCT for the issues you brought up. I might be able to get real gear but I have no idea if it’s real or not whereas at least with this I know it is. [/quote]

If you take a decent liver supplement, you will not have any problems with your liver. don’t let some people use scare tactics on you. Can it happen, yes, its possible. Im not going to say it can’t happen. Can you get hit by lightning also, sure, its possible. [/quote]

Lol you are a lot more likely to develop liver problems from superdrol than you are to get struck by lightning. In fact I would say that no matter what liver supplement you take your liver values will be adversely affected, how badly depends on your genetics. It’s a roll of the dice.[/quote]

just lifting weights, can effect liver enzyme values. just about anything will. higher levels of liver enzymes doesn’t mean theres a problem.

never posted here kinda been hanging out and getting a feel for the board…I did a ph cycle last spring and put on 12 lbs…only kept 8 or 9 after it was all said and done. I was running hdrol and dianavar (superdrol clone).

I will testify with first hand experience that ph’s work. I didn’t have any sides on these compounds except a drop in libido when I was coming off.I took clomi for pct and ended up bouncing back in about three weeks time. The thing that lured me to ph’s was the fact that I knew what I was getting and had a pretty good idea of the risks involved.(except for long term liver issues which even if I ever do have liver issues it would be hard to pin point which product, if any, caused it.)

I have recently come across good human grade test e and have been running 500/wk for the last 4 weeks and and the difference in 4 wks of phs and 4 wks of test don’t even compare. Don’t think I will ever take phs again unless I just couldn’t get my hands on the real McCoy.

IMO you have a good regimen laid out and as long as you run milk thistle and Hawthorne berry to protect your liver you should be good to go. Drink at least a gallon of water to help flush all the gibber gabber outa ur liver. And yes run a real pct not that otc junk.even though phs are otc they effect your body the same way steroids do so IMO they should be treated as such.good luck and please post progress!

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]INTERNETWARLORD wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]pumped340 wrote:

[quote]INTERNETWARLORD wrote:
This site cites a number of bodybuilders who have had liver failures and other problems as a result of OTC designer steroids.

Superdrol was developed by the same company that produced Anadrol, but unlike Anadrol it was deemed as being too unsafe for use, which should tell you a little bit about it.

Are you not able to access real gear? Then you should not be using steroids. What do you think will happen to your sex drive when you take a steroid that shuts down your endogenous Test production, raises prolactin (which inhibits HPTA even worse than estrogen) and you aren’t taking testosterone with it? You lose your sex drive then you crash hard. I have heard enough of S-Drol that I will never use it, and this is from a guy who has done test, tren, deca, anadrol, d-bol, clen… Pretty much any steroid you can think of. I don’t fuck with any steroid that I can buy at GNC.[/quote]

Really? I have never read of anyone having liver failure from SD or the like, especially on this site. The most I have read was raised liver enzymes.

As for the 2nd part. I do have PCT for the issues you brought up. I might be able to get real gear but I have no idea if it’s real or not whereas at least with this I know it is. [/quote]

If you take a decent liver supplement, you will not have any problems with your liver. don’t let some people use scare tactics on you. Can it happen, yes, its possible. Im not going to say it can’t happen. Can you get hit by lightning also, sure, its possible. [/quote]

Lol you are a lot more likely to develop liver problems from superdrol than you are to get struck by lightning. In fact I would say that no matter what liver supplement you take your liver values will be adversely affected, how badly depends on your genetics. It’s a roll of the dice.[/quote]

just lifting weights, can effect liver enzyme values. just about anything will. higher levels of liver enzymes doesn’t mean theres a problem. [/quote]

Hey, while on the subject, will you post a recent picture of you?

[quote]derkturner wrote:
never posted here kinda been hanging out and getting a feel for the board…I did a ph cycle last spring and put on 12 lbs…only kept 8 or 9 after it was all said and done. I was running hdrol and dianavar (superdrol clone).

I will testify with first hand experience that ph’s work. I didn’t have any sides on these compounds except a drop in libido when I was coming off.I took clomi for pct and ended up bouncing back in about three weeks time. The thing that lured me to ph’s was the fact that I knew what I was getting and had a pretty good idea of the risks involved.(except for long term liver issues which even if I ever do have liver issues it would be hard to pin point which product, if any, caused it.)

I have recently come across good human grade test e and have been running 500/wk for the last 4 weeks and and the difference in 4 wks of phs and 4 wks of test don’t even compare. Don’t think I will ever take phs again unless I just couldn’t get my hands on the real McCoy.

IMO you have a good regimen laid out and as long as you run milk thistle and Hawthorne berry to protect your liver you should be good to go. Drink at least a gallon of water to help flush all the gibber gabber outa ur liver. And yes run a real pct not that otc junk.even though phs are otc they effect your body the same way steroids do so IMO they should be treated as such.good luck and please post progress![/quote]

Hey man, thanks a lot for the input. It’s interesting to have someone who can compare 4 weeks of 2 PH’s (really designer steroids…) and 4 weeks of Test E. Even though I know the overall effects of Test would be better than the overall effects of the designer steroids I was actually thinking the results over just 4 weeks would be better for the designer steroids because they’re so much faster acting. Doesn’t Test E really take about 3 weeks or so to take affect in your body due to it being a moderately long ester? What have your results been so far with the 4 weeks of Test?

Thanks again

[quote]derkturner wrote:
never posted here kinda been hanging out and getting a feel for the board…I did a ph cycle last spring and put on 12 lbs…only kept 8 or 9 after it was all said and done. I was running hdrol and dianavar (superdrol clone).

I will testify with first hand experience that ph’s work. I didn’t have any sides on these compounds except a drop in libido when I was coming off.I took clomi for pct and ended up bouncing back in about three weeks time. The thing that lured me to ph’s was the fact that I knew what I was getting and had a pretty good idea of the risks involved.(except for long term liver issues which even if I ever do have liver issues it would be hard to pin point which product, if any, caused it.)

I have recently come across good human grade test e and have been running 500/wk for the last 4 weeks and and the difference in 4 wks of phs and 4 wks of test don’t even compare. Don’t think I will ever take phs again unless I just couldn’t get my hands on the real McCoy.

IMO you have a good regimen laid out and as long as you run milk thistle and Hawthorne berry to protect your liver you should be good to go. Drink at least a gallon of water to help flush all the gibber gabber outa ur liver. And yes run a real pct not that otc junk.even though phs are otc they effect your body the same way steroids do so IMO they should be treated as such.good luck and please post progress![/quote]

First and foremost, Superdrol is NOT a prohormone. Why do people still insist on calling superdrol that. Superdrol is a steroid. And a very powerful one at that. Prohormones have to convert to its parent hormone, superdrol doesn’t. Its a steroid.

[quote]derkturner wrote:
never posted here kinda been hanging out and getting a feel for the board…I did a ph cycle last spring and put on 12 lbs…only kept 8 or 9 after it was all said and done. I was running hdrol and dianavar (superdrol clone).

I will testify with first hand experience that ph’s work. I didn’t have any sides on these compounds except a drop in libido when I was coming off.I took clomi for pct and ended up bouncing back in about three weeks time. The thing that lured me to ph’s was the fact that I knew what I was getting and had a pretty good idea of the risks involved.(except for long term liver issues which even if I ever do have liver issues it would be hard to pin point which product, if any, caused it.)

I have recently come across good human grade test e and have been running 500/wk for the last 4 weeks and and the difference in 4 wks of phs and 4 wks of test don’t even compare. Don’t think I will ever take phs again unless I just couldn’t get my hands on the real McCoy.

IMO you have a good regimen laid out and as long as you run milk thistle and Hawthorne berry to protect your liver you should be good to go. Drink at least a gallon of water to help flush all the gibber gabber outa ur liver. And yes run a real pct not that otc junk.even though phs are otc they effect your body the same way steroids do so IMO they should be treated as such.good luck and please post progress![/quote]

Dude, “the real mccoy” Superdrol is one of the most powerful steroids ever developed. id compare its results to any injectable.

rogueV is right it is a steroid but since the ban its been marketed as a prohoromone and that’s how it was presented to me the first time I came across it. Whatever you want to call it, ph, pro steroid , or steroid it’s the stoutest oral I’ve taken. When I say 4weeks of phs and 4weeks of TE don’t compare its because most of the gains in strength I had from phs came at the ass end of the cycle and into my post.Im not even half way into my TE and I feel like I could lift a mountain. I’ve done a couple runs w different phs and hve never had the strength and stamina that I have right now and I would much rather take two pins a week than eat a pile of pills everyday. Either way run it brah…

[quote]derkturner wrote:
rogueV is right it is a steroid but since the ban its been marketed as a prohoromone and that’s how it was presented to me the first time I came across it. Whatever you want to call it, ph, pro steroid , or steroid it’s the stoutest oral I’ve taken. When I say 4weeks of phs and 4weeks of TE don’t compare its because most of the gains in strength I had from phs came at the ass end of the cycle and into my post.Im not even half way into my TE and I feel like I could lift a mountain. I’ve done a couple runs w different phs and hve never had the strength and stamina that I have right now and I would much rather take two pins a week than eat a pile of pills everyday. Either way run it brah…[/quote]

Interesting that most of your strength was at the end and post with the superdrol. Most I’ve read about say their best gains were in week 3 with it tapering off when stopping the cycle. Either way though pretty much everyone has reported great strength gains. Good points about the Test E though. Out of curiosity how many mg/day of the superdrol and halodrol were you running, and how old were you then and now?

i was running 25mg hdrol and 15 mg dianavar (superdrol clone) in the am and 25mg hdrol and 15mg dianavar in the pm. So a total of 50mg hdrol and 30mg dianavar each day for a total of 4 weeks. Not sure if it matters how you split up the doses I just ran it the way the bottles suggested.

I’ve done hrol by itself and had good results. It seemed alot more mild compared to dianavar, but I seemed to keep more of my gains than when I stacked the two. I gained more weight on the stack (12lbs)but I lost 3 or 4 lbs after vs hdrol by itself (9 lbs) but kept 8. The dianavar killed my sex drive about week two and continued two weeks after I stopped using it. I could get hard but just really didn’t have any desire or interest.

Hdrol by itself did the exact opposite, couldn’t get enough. Those were the only sides I experienced. As for my age, I was 29 when I did my hdrol solo cycle and my hdrol and dianavar stack was last spring, I am now 31. All in all it was a good stack I just think my body handled the hdrol by itself a lot better.

Everybody is different and will respond differently to PEDs I am not a doctor and only speak from my experience. You seem like your a smart kat and have done your research and as long as you take something to protect your liver your GTG…and you said its free…that’s like somebody giving 10 lbs of muscle. Wish I could slap that on my Christmas list.