lol conservativedog, my generation is three fold better than yours was (is).
We’re stronger than you, we’re smarter than you, we’re more efficient than you, we’re more creative than you, we’re more informed about the world than you, we’re in more relationships than you, we’re more expressive than you and to your point, we understand more about different cultures and appreciate those differences.
Oh, and we’re not afraid to learn about other people.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also…this is America in the year 2012. How many “ALL BLACK” or “ALL WHITE” people are there here? Some of you seem to use CULTURAL ISSUES as race issues.
That would make it a racist point of view.
I personally have nothing in common with some rapist or murder in another city just because we share a similar skin color…so why has this discussion focused on why black people are doing wrong…as if their skin color made them do it and not their culture/environment?[/quote]
Help me out with something here please. What does this part mean?
Also - on this part…
That’s definitely not what Tirib is saying - if that’s what you’re thinking. Actually, it seems to me that conservativedog is the only one that makes sense to point this toward.
I think Tirib miscommunicated back a bit earlier, and that naturally rubbed you the wrong way. He started that piece with this tho
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
A known racist who I denounced myself was here a couple years ago and made what I took as the outrageous statement that black on white rape was 15,000 to NONE to white on black. [/quote]
…In other words, he already understood what you told him here
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
but I’ll grant you that I have a hard time buying there are NO white on black rapes at all.[/quote]
The thing is, it shouldn’t be a “hard time buying it”. It should jump out as BULLSHIT the moment you see it. Racists use stats like that to further their motives, not to report truth.
[/quote]
If you remember, his stance isn’t about race at all directly. Only insofar as “you all” have been targeted - and were an easier target due to historical reasons. Targeted how? He seems to be saying by gov’t programs (…yeah “liberal” ones…) that give incentives to break up the family. To some degree, the gov’t becomes daddy. Then eventually the kids become feral beasts (he didn’t specify - but I imagine this would take multiple generations), but they get into a trap of deepening dependency where they vote for more and more free stuff. Which works pretty well for those certain politicians. Pretty evil plans - anyways, he’s trying to fight all that with his Christian ways. That’s his angle, if I’ve understood. In conclusion - this has nothing to do with black vs. white, he truly considers himself to be on “your side”
And he rubbed you the wrong way when he more or less said “ok compare 15 thousand to 1 thousand then”
And you naturally think
But again, that’s not his angle. His angle there was to show that “you all” have been targeted. And hit, bulls eye. He doesn’t like that
He would say IT IS their culture/environment. An unnatural one. More specific to him, an anti-Christian environment. That’s what he wants to change
Let me know if / where I’m wrong in my understanding, Tirib
PWI sucks.
[quote]squating_bear wrote:<<< If you remember, his stance isn’t about race at all directly. Only insofar as “you all” have been targeted - and were an easier target due to historical reasons. Targeted how? He seems to be saying by gov’t programs (…yeah “liberal” ones…) that give incentives to break up the family. To some degree, the gov’t becomes daddy. Then eventually the kids become feral beasts (he didn’t specify - but I imagine this would take multiple generations), but they get into a trap of deepening dependency where they vote for more and more free stuff. Which works pretty well for those certain politicians. Pretty evil plans - anyways, he’s trying to fight all that with his Christian ways. That’s his angle, if I’ve understood. In conclusion - this has nothing to do with black vs. white, he truly considers himself to be on “your side”[/quote]Not bad dude. My slippery friend here is perty dern close. I’m not sure I’d say that the design from the outset was to break up families, but that’s how it worked out and once it was the case and they saw the even higher level of dependency, bringing with it even higher need and the power to make themselves indispensable to people who would have to vote for them forever now, they sure ain’t done much to encourage the faithful black family and thereby lessen people’s need for their handouts. The socialist nannies need people to need them. Self sufficient families are the opposite of that. The only other thing I’d say is that it took hold in less than one generation, not over several. However aside from those minor clarifications? You nailed it pretty hard.
Here Doc I’ll let ya in on what’s not really a secret any more. We lost our house and everything in it. Just about. Living in an attic.(long story) We qualify for every marxist program there is. I WILL NOT TAKE IT. Not one thin dime. I will see us starve first, because I know me and I am no better than any of the leeches now living off of other people’s industry. Those pied pipers in DC will not make me one of their nursing dependent zombies. EVER. God will and is providing. Daily bread. Oh how they try too. I slapped that government baby bottle right outta their hands. Get that crap away from me. It’s soul sucking poison.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
PWI sucks.[/quote]
Then why are you here?[/quote]
He just wants to tell us how much “stronger, smarter, more efficient, more creative, more informed about the world, more expressive and more understanding of different cultures” than we are. Nothing further to add. It all speaks for itself.
EDIT: I’m sure he lifts more than push, knows more about Japanese culture than you and Cortes and has a better understanding of the world than anyone else here. Why would he stick around with that wealth of knowledge and humility?
[quote]squating_bear wrote:
Help me out with something here please. What does this part mean?[/quote]
That there are many people with multicultural backgrounds regardless of what they LOOK like. What else would it mean?
[quote]
That’s definitely not what Tirib is saying - if that’s what you’re thinking. Actually, it seems to me that conservativedog is the only one that makes sense to point this toward.[/quote]
I’m sorry, what? Tirib is the one who brought up the crime stats of the blacks in his community. I simply asked why their race mattered. You haven’t answered that yet.
[quote]
If you remember, his stance isn’t about race at all directly. Only insofar as “you all” have been targeted - and were an easier target due to historical reasons. Targeted how? He seems to be saying by gov’t programs (…yeah “liberal” ones…) that give incentives to break up the family. To some degree, the gov’t becomes daddy. Then eventually the kids become feral beasts (he didn’t specify - but I imagine this would take multiple generations), but they get into a trap of deepening dependency where they vote for more and more free stuff. Which works pretty well for those certain politicians. Pretty evil plans - anyways, he’s trying to fight all that with his Christian ways. That’s his angle, if I’ve understood. In conclusion - this has nothing to do with black vs. white, he truly considers himself to be on “your side”[/quote]
WTF? Didn’t Tirib jump in the thread and ask why I was posting? When did he address any points I made directly?
Would YOU mind going back and answering some of those many questions I asked?
I’ll let him continue Doc, though he usually isn’t around til late. He’s doin a pretty fine Job. Here’s a clue until then. It ISN’T at all about race to me, but it IS about race to the blood sucking nanny state liberals. THEY, continue to feed on slavery and racism.
LOL!! Really. I dunno. How people cannot see this is just beyond me.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]squating_bear wrote:
Help me out with something here please. What does this part mean?[/quote]
That there are many people with multicultural backgrounds regardless of what they LOOK like. What else would it mean?[/quote]
I thought that it either meant that, or maybe “black and white” vs. different shades of grey.
“all or nothing” vs. “varying degrees”
Or something else entirely - I wasn’t sure. That post of yours didn’t flow in my mind as they often do - so I figured I was probably missing something
[quote][quote]
That’s definitely not what Tirib is saying - if that’s what you’re thinking. Actually, it seems to me that conservativedog is the only one that makes sense to point this toward.[/quote]
I’m sorry, what? Tirib is the one who brought up the crime stats of the blacks in his community. I simply asked why their race mattered. You haven’t answered that yet.[/quote]
I missed where he brought up actual stats from his community first of all. I also missed where he blamed it on race - and that seemed to be what you were implying.
Why race mattered is that it’s the topic of his posts. That “you all” have been targeted
I did answer that, but its cool
[quote][quote]
If you remember, his stance isn’t about race at all directly. Only insofar as “you all” have been targeted - and were an easier target due to historical reasons. Targeted how? He seems to be saying by gov’t programs (…yeah “liberal” ones…) that give incentives to break up the family. To some degree, the gov’t becomes daddy. Then eventually the kids become feral beasts (he didn’t specify - but I imagine this would take multiple generations), but they get into a trap of deepening dependency where they vote for more and more free stuff. Which works pretty well for those certain politicians. Pretty evil plans - anyways, he’s trying to fight all that with his Christian ways. That’s his angle, if I’ve understood. In conclusion - this has nothing to do with black vs. white, he truly considers himself to be on “your side”[/quote]
WTF? Didn’t Tirib jump in the thread and ask why I was posting? When did he address any points I made directly?[/quote]
If I remember, he asked why you cared about Black History Month “so much”
(not his exact words - mine)
And he also specifically said that you might have a good reason or two that he wasn’t aware of.
I am not sure what points you are making directly. You guys have not been communicating very effectively. I have dealt with him before, and at least to some extent I “get” him and know where he’s coming from even when he isn’t saying it most clearly. I cannot read you the same way I read him - so questions are in order between me and you if we are gonna make sense here
I only remember one that I might be able to answer. You asked why people single out Black History Month and not the other months for other races. I think it’s supposed to be a ‘catch all’ where the other months are included without saying. Black History Month has more weight than the rest so it makes some sense
But it also seems a bit flawed. If someone’s really doing it right, then “you all” shouldn’t be getting your survival instincts triggered at all. A better way might be to speak out against racial division directly - I’m pretty sure that’s how the non racist “anti Black History Month” types see it.
Yep. Racial division. I am guessing you probably see an opportunity for racial unity. I see both - it is both
That’s my thoughts on one of your questions. I think I only remembered it because the basic answer was quick and easy (for me - from my perspective). I’ll see what I can do if you will ask me more - but nah, I’m not going back to hunt them down
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
The thing is you have racism so long as there isn’t solidarity about race…
What I mean when I speak of solidarity really relates back to humor. A person can have fun with their own race or another persons race so long as they are laughing with the stereotype, not at the stereotype.
If in one breath I’m able to laugh at a Dave Chappelle skit because it brings solidarity. BTW
But seriously, I see stuff on this forum like saying latino’s vote a certain way because they are low income, when really it’s just code talk for the old stereotype of latino’s being lazy.
Think about it, think about how Chappelle uses race for humor and solidarity where others use race to draw distinctions. BTW I think white people’s ethnic food of choice are expensive sandwitches. Dave Chappelle - Division in Our Foods and Grape Drink - YouTube
Cheers you honky suckas!
Raise your hand if you prefer grape flavoring on your surge! Mmm that shit is purple!