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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Why would he have to be a HUSBAND to be a contributing loving father who takes care of his kids?

Yes, I sure as hell do deny that you have to be a HUSBAND to pull that off.[/quote]

Okay, let’s talk absentee fathers - husband or not. Surely you’re not saying that a father who leaves his wife/girlfriend to raise a kid by herself is okay? Surely you’re not claiming there is not an epidemic of such families in the black community? Note, this will be my last attempt.[/quote]

Where is the stat for that?

Of black single moms, how often is it the case the father is absent vs the parents simply aren’t married or are in an alternate arrangement?

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Nearly 2 in 3 (64%) African American children live in father-absent homes.

“Father absence “decimates” black community in U.S.”

'Some 56 percent of black children lived in single-parent families in 2004, with most of those families headed by mothers…“Father absence in the African American communities, across America, has hit those communities with the force of 100 hurricane Katrinas,” said Phillip Jackson, executive director of the Chicago-based Black Star Project, which helps children in mainly minority schools.

“It is literally decimating our communities and we have no adequate response to it.”’

CNN - ‘We all know about the crisis of absentee fathers especially in black households in America. It’s a problem the President has spoken about often…’

That is, all except the raj.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Why would he have to be a HUSBAND to be a contributing loving father who takes care of his kids?

Yes, I sure as hell do deny that you have to be a HUSBAND to pull that off.[/quote]

Okay, let’s talk absentee fathers - husband or not. Surely you’re not saying that a father who leaves his wife/girlfriend to raise a kid by herself is okay? Surely you’re not claiming there is not an epidemic of such families in the black community? Note, this will be my last attempt.[/quote]

“Some of you” need to learn the futility of discussing anything race-related with X. LOL.[/quote]

How true, as soon as you prove him wrong on a point he circles back to another point, or denies what he said. Those of us who have been around a long time understand how he operates.

He has his strong points like when he’s telling teens to eat more calories if they want to gain weight. But, when you get him too far off his finite field of expertise he’s pretty much empty.

But it is fun to chase him around on occasion and pin his ears back.

When you guys get tired of slapping him around I might jump in and take a turn or two.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
That doesn’t mean it was a “strong family”.
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Strong is not the best word, its more of traditional family vs non-traditional family. Regardless of their feelings toward each other just the fact they were “married” and living in the same house has to count for something.[/quote]

But see, that is the point. Tirib stated that he somehow KNEW that the black family of the 60’s was literally stronger. What is he basing that on…and why is it going on 3 pages of me asking and no one can answer that yet?

Not getting a divorce because you think you will suffer for it in hell does NOT mean you have a “strong family unit”…so what criteria are they using?[/quote]

How their kids turned out.

They did better, sorry.

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People can say whatever they want. Cite whatever they want and quote whatever they want in an utterly preposterous attempt to deny that black America has been and continues to be devastated by the atomic arsenal leveled at their families on every public level in the last 50 years of this nations history. Not the least of which are deadly poisonous social welfare programs fired at them by largely WHITE democrats with a smattering of sold out black political whores along for the ride. I SEE IT. Every single day.

I also see, every single day (literally), intact black Christian families, without their hand out crying about injustice. Overcoming every challenge themselves together. Many of these are former street people Doc. Before you go off on some tangent about privilege. Also as a result of this paradigm wherein we see each other as creatures of God first, they embrace me absolutely as family. I mean absolutely. It would positively flip you out if you ever came with me to my church. We love each other and they trust me implicitly. I have access to every area of that church including keys to where tens of thousands of dollars of computer and media equipment is kept and operated being that I’m their IT guy.

I don’t care who tells you otherwise Doc. You’ve been sold a billa goods. That doesn’t make you an idiot, but it does make you wrong. Look in the mirror and practice saying it. “I… was… wrong”. You can choke it out. Or maybe you can’t. Either way you simply are. I don’t know what else to tell ya. One more quick thing. Why am I concentrating on you in his thread? Because you are a living breathing object lesson on how otherwise intelligent people can be manipulated into blindly campaigning for their own destruction if enough resources are effectively marshaled toward that end. Race is actually incidental. Just in case you still care. I remain your friend. That hasn’t changed as far as I’m concerned. (Ok that was 2 more quick things)

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
People can say whatever they want. Cite whatever they want and quote whatever they want in an utterly preposterous attempt to deny that black America has been and continues to be devastated by the atomic arsenal leveled at their families on every public level in the last 50 years of this nations history. Not the least of which are deadly poisonous social welfare programs fired at them by largely WHITE democrats with a smattering of sold out black political whores along for the ride. I SEE IT. Every single day.

I also see, every single day (literally), intact black Christian families, without their hand out crying about injustice. Overcoming every challenge themselves together. Many of these are former street people Doc. Before you go off on some tangent about privilege. Also as a result of this paradigm wherein we see each other as creatures of God first, they embrace me absolutely as family. I mean absolutely. It would positively flip you out if you ever came with me to my church. We love each other and they trust me implicitly. I have access to every area of that church including keys to where tens of thousands of dollars of computer and media equipment is kept and operated being that I’m their IT guy.

I don’t care who tells you otherwise Doc. You’ve been sold a billa goods. That doesn’t make you an idiot, but it does make you wrong. Look in the mirror and practice saying it. “I… was… wrong”. You can choke it out. Or maybe you can’t. Either way you simply are. I don’t know what else to tell ya. One more quick thing. Why am I concentrating on you in his thread? Because you are a living breathing object lesson on how otherwise intelligent people can be manipulated into blindly campaigning for their own destruction if enough resources are effectively marshaled toward that end. Race is actually incidental. Just in case you still care. I remain your friend. That hasn’t changed as far as I’m concerned. (Ok that was 2 more quick things)[/quote]

Dude, you have some serious issues. I don’t know why you have this strange concept of me, but it is making you look a little insane.

“I have been sold a billa goods”? Because I disagree with you on the significance of Black History Month in the past in this country?

What are you talking about? Most of your rants don’t relate to anything I wrote here. Your assumptions of me only tell more about you.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Why would he have to be a HUSBAND to be a contributing loving father who takes care of his kids?

Yes, I sure as hell do deny that you have to be a HUSBAND to pull that off.[/quote]

Okay, let’s talk absentee fathers - husband or not. Surely you’re not saying that a father who leaves his wife/girlfriend to raise a kid by herself is okay? Surely you’re not claiming there is not an epidemic of such families in the black community? Note, this will be my last attempt.[/quote]

Where is the stat for that?

Of black single moms, how often is it the case the father is absent vs the parents simply aren’t married or are in an alternate arrangement?

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I am betting they will avoid responding to you. They seem more upset that I am responding at all.

Like I said, they seem to be making the statement that it is IMPOSSIBLE to raise kids in a loving caring environment where the father and mother both contribute but simply are not married.

I am not sure why they focus more on what race I am than this concept here.

I am not speaking at all about fathers leaving a family by themselves or a mother raising a kid on her own.

I am challenging your concept of the significance of marriage itself over the concept of the environment being more important than the marriage license.

Mind you, I am speaking of EDUCATED adults here in stable relationships. I have been saying this for pages now.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Why would he have to be a HUSBAND to be a contributing loving father who takes care of his kids?

Yes, I sure as hell do deny that you have to be a HUSBAND to pull that off.[/quote]

Okay, let’s talk absentee fathers - husband or not. Surely you’re not saying that a father who leaves his wife/girlfriend to raise a kid by herself is okay? Surely you’re not claiming there is not an epidemic of such families in the black community? Note, this will be my last attempt.[/quote]

Where is the stat for that?

Of black single moms, how often is it the case the father is absent vs the parents simply aren’t married or are in an alternate arrangement?

[/quote]

Nearly 2 in 3 (64%) African American children live in father-absent homes.

“Father absence “decimates” black community in U.S.”

'Some 56 percent of black children lived in single-parent families in 2004, with most of those families headed by mothers…“Father absence in the African American communities, across America, has hit those communities with the force of 100 hurricane Katrinas,” said Phillip Jackson, executive director of the Chicago-based Black Star Project, which helps children in mainly minority schools.

“It is literally decimating our communities and we have no adequate response to it.”’

CNN - ‘We all know about the crisis of absentee fathers especially in black households in America. It’s a problem the President has spoken about often…’

That is, all except the raj.[/quote]

Uh, yeah, the problem there would be I never wrote anything at all about “absentee father households”. I know I am writing in English…so what is making some of you see something different?

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:<<< where they don’t get married and there is nothing but love between them. >>>[/quote]Where do you see these. I have been around and I don’t think I’ve ever seen one. Also, I won’t bother to quote you saying the opposite of this a day or two ago because I don’t think it would do any good. People can look back and see if they want to.
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Uh, please do quote me. That would keep you on point instead of these tangents you keep going on where you judge every aspect of my character based on a topic on the internet.

It doesn’t matter if you have never seen one. I asked if you think this is impossible. You chose to go on tangents about Messiahs and leeches.

I am truly not understanding why you think the marriage itself is more important than the stability of the relationships. There are a lot of abusive marriages out there. Them being married doesn’t mean it happens less often.

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Question…how would some of you rate a family where the husband and wife are emotionally distant but mostly stay together for the kids, try to avoid arguing in front of them, and make sure the kids have what they need?

Do you see this scenario as BETTER than a family where the man and woman are not married, understand the relationship and respect each other, are emotionally close and also care for the kids?

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

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LOL. After an entire thread of literally telling me how I think and what I believe.

Let me know when you get back to actually responding to what was actually written.

I don’t think much of what you wrote here even related to any points I made.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

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I want an Irish History Month.

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I know you better than just what’s in this thread. You’ve told me and everybody else what you think and believe. I’m taking you at your word and assuming a bit of consistency for the rest. I said that early on. I couldn’t care less about ANY history month. Black or… whatever. It’s an idiotic though in many cases well intentioned concession to a mindset that only perpetuates the real issues of division while pretending to promote equality. I’m not really against it so much as I just don’t care. I don’t require a government mandate to recognize who anybody is or what they’ve done.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am challenging your concept of the significance of marriage itself over the concept of the environment being more important than the marriage license.
[/quote]
Then you’re still not really getting at the meat of there attempted points

An environment with more marriages is different than an environment without.

They seem to be saying they will expect crime statistics to follow marriage statistics. Or at least there is some sort of correlation. You are talking about something else - so then… maybe they have a point?

Them having a point here does not disprove everything you’ve said. And it has nothing to do with Black History Month.

…cool?

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[quote]squating_bear wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am challenging your concept of the significance of marriage itself over the concept of the environment being more important than the marriage license.
[/quote]
Then you’re still not really getting at the meat of there attempted points

An environment with more marriages is different than an environment without.

They seem to be saying they will expect crime statistics to follow marriage statistics. Or at least there is some sort of correlation. You are talking about something else - so then… maybe they have a point?

Them having a point here does not disprove everything you’ve said. And it has nothing to do with Black History Month.

…cool?[/quote]

None of this has anything to do with Black History Month, and Black History Month has nothing to do with the idiotic title and first post of this thread. Black History Month was just a stand-in so that some very backwards and anachronistic views about race and education in America could be expressed in an oblique way.

I vote to let this cesspool die the inglorious death it deserves rather than legitimize it with a reasonable discussion.

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]squating_bear wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am challenging your concept of the significance of marriage itself over the concept of the environment being more important than the marriage license.
[/quote]
Then you’re still not really getting at the meat of there attempted points

An environment with more marriages is different than an environment without.

They seem to be saying they will expect crime statistics to follow marriage statistics. Or at least there is some sort of correlation. You are talking about something else - so then… maybe they have a point?

Them having a point here does not disprove everything you’ve said. And it has nothing to do with Black History Month.

…cool?[/quote]

None of this has anything to do with Black History Month, and Black History Month has nothing to do with the idiotic title and first post of this thread. Black History Month was just a stand-in so that some very backwards and anachronistic views about race and education in America could be expressed in an oblique way.

I vote to let this cesspool die the inglorious death it deserves rather than legitimize it with a reasonable discussion.[/quote]
I hope X doesn’t agree with you, because it seemed to me that he DID want a reasonable discussion

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]squating_bear wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am challenging your concept of the significance of marriage itself over the concept of the environment being more important than the marriage license.
[/quote]
Then you’re still not really getting at the meat of there attempted points

An environment with more marriages is different than an environment without.

They seem to be saying they will expect crime statistics to follow marriage statistics. Or at least there is some sort of correlation. You are talking about something else - so then… maybe they have a point?

Them having a point here does not disprove everything you’ve said. And it has nothing to do with Black History Month.

…cool?[/quote]

None of this has anything to do with Black History Month, and Black History Month has nothing to do with the idiotic title and first post of this thread. Black History Month was just a stand-in so that some very backwards and anachronistic views about race and education in America could be expressed in an oblique way.

I vote to let this cesspool die the inglorious death it deserves rather than legitimize it with a reasonable discussion.[/quote]

Well maybe read the first post again and understand it’s better to be informed than just opinionated. I think I got my point across whether you agree with me or not.

It’s obvious you are closer to the politically correct view of the Democrats than I am so why attack this post and describe it as a cesspool? Backwards? Take the training wheels off your posts and stop trying impress us with your ability to spell anachronistic. Start your own thread.

I thought for a non weight lifting subject it drew good numbers. I also think a month from now professor x will still be talking to himself here.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

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I want an Irish History Month.

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You get an acute psychophrenia month. Say hi to God for me.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

I am betting they will avoid responding to you.

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Then you lose because I responded three hours before this post.

Stop lumping me in with the other white guys. I’m an individual.

You missed my post about absentee fathers whether married or not? However you quoted it.

Race, race, race. WTF? I’d have the same discussion with anyone raising such issues.

Like I said, let’s discuss absentee fathers. I also said, that was my last attempt.

Like an environment where the father leaves his wife/girlfriend to raise the kid/s on her own?

[quote]
Mind you, I am speaking of EDUCATED adults here in stable relationships. I have been saying this for pages now.[/quote]

The problem is, a HUGE proportion of black children have parents who AREN’T in stable relationships and the father doesn’t contribute to the upbringing of the child.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]squating_bear wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am challenging your concept of the significance of marriage itself over the concept of the environment being more important than the marriage license.
[/quote]
Then you’re still not really getting at the meat of there attempted points

An environment with more marriages is different than an environment without.

They seem to be saying they will expect crime statistics to follow marriage statistics. Or at least there is some sort of correlation. You are talking about something else - so then… maybe they have a point?

Them having a point here does not disprove everything you’ve said. And it has nothing to do with Black History Month.

…cool?[/quote]

None of this has anything to do with Black History Month, and Black History Month has nothing to do with the idiotic title and first post of this thread. Black History Month was just a stand-in so that some very backwards and anachronistic views about race and education in America could be expressed in an oblique way.

I vote to let this cesspool die the inglorious death it deserves rather than legitimize it with a reasonable discussion.[/quote]

Well maybe read the first post again and understand it’s better to be informed than just opinionated. I think I got my point across whether you agree with me or not.

It’s obvious you are closer to the politically correct view of the Democrats than I am so why attack this post and describe it as a cesspool? Backwards? Take the training wheels off your posts and stop trying impress us with your ability to spell anachronistic. Start your own thread.

I thought for a non weight lifting subject it drew good numbers. I also think a month from now professor x will still be talking to himself here. [/quote]

I dislike the politically correct crowd as much as anyone. I’m just calling this like I see it-something conservatives tend to admire.

From your first post: “As I write liberal educators already have in the works separate history courses to highlight African American…accomplishments.”

Let me see if I understand you correctly–you’re criticizing, for example, a college-level history course on the Civil Rights Movement?

If you are, then yes, my point stands–that’s a ridiculously naive, paranoid, stupid, and backwards point of view, and it very obviously comes from someone who knows literally nothing about higher education and the specialization of knowledge.