Pinning Monday/thursday 0.5mg/125mg each time to my delts. I only have now Testmix, Prop/Cyp/Ena wich is made in GSO oil. These have been my first 2 injections to delts by far and i dont know if i do it right. First left delt injection i got a little lump under delt, so i think it leaked out a little bit, but the lump is gone now. First right hand delt injection was on monday, i did got a little Pip after and hurts little bit to my right shoulder. No redness or anything… Is all this because I am using this testmix where is Prop and Virgin muscle ?. i have never used prop, only Cyp when i was blasting 1.5 years ago. I am using 25g 1" inch needle and push it all the way in, I am not in muscular shape right now, just average joe with weight 70 kg.
Actually, i did pin for a test purpose on my left delt like year ago 1ml/250mg and it went somehow badly, left shoulder was like there has put synthol and was red.
Reason i did choose to pin my delts, was because when i was blasting and did only glute injections, i scared out when it was bleeding badly few times at the end of my cycle 1.5 years ago, but it wasn’t red or any lump.
There’s so much weirdness in this post. But, I’ll answer the questions at hand.
1.pip is not unusual, at any injection site. I’ve only really done quads, glutes and delts regularly, and I’ve gotten it in each location. Sometimes you’ll get a little lump too… it happens. I’d only worry about it if a) it gets red, b) it’s clearly infected, or c) if the lump doesn’t go away in a day or 2. It’s always possible that you could be allergic to a particular oil, when you change sources/products. Something to keep in mind.
3. A little leaking happens pretty often. Especially when you pin delts. I don’t know why this is the case, but it’s definitely normal.
4.‘bleeding badly’ is not normal… depending on what you mean by that. Usually I’ll get no blood or very minimal blood when I pin glutes. But every now and then, I’m guessing because I’ve nicked a vein or something, I’ll have a fair bit of blood squirt out when I remove the needle. As long as you’re not getting like a lot of blood every time you pin, you’re probably fine.
Ok so i will sum it up a little bit. Had bloodtests and test taken, and my test was in the very low end at the margin, 10,2 nmol/l. So i decided to start my own admistered Trt with a little bit more than a normal trt dosage, 250mg/week split in 2 doses. I take all the precautions like listed above. I am looking for only benefits like → increase in sex drive,mood and well being. I have had lack of these like a year now.
So the actual thing i am only worried about is the injection. No blood has come out in those 2 delt injections so far. Just like “double checking” for my mind peace, that is it normal for virging muscle and prop to cause a little pip. The glute did bruise out some blood over my leg few times when i removed the needle, but the ass was fine, i just freaked out the leak that was big and applied pressure back then (1.5 years ago).
Just for the wellbeing and trt purpose. No sex drive, no interest for “anything” all crap that comes with low testosterone. And it was low once again, 10.2 nmol/l
Given that you’ve self-injected multiple times with some issues, maybe you should find a TRT clinic and have them do it for you…? You are on the lower end of the spectrum and most TRT clinics seem to not mind giving you meds to push you up to the higher end of the spectrum.
You’ve also been told a couple times that you don’t need to aspirate, but it seems you continue to do so anyways. Why keep asking for advice but not listen to it? (you don’t have to answer)
I recommend having it done in a clinical setting, learning what they do, then repeating it yourself.
Then why are you doing this on your own, and not through a doctor? Do you know if you have primary or secondary hypogonadism? Have you had a full blood panel done to assess other hormones, and see if there are other causes to your problems?
I don’t understand why ANYONE would go the route you’re going, if the purpose is better general health.
Problem is, doctors have told me the very same since 16y and now i am 29. “theres nothing wrong with your testosterone, beard is growing” yeah… nothing wrong when i am at the low end of the margin. And yes, i have taken the full blood panel, everything is “perfect”. The aspiration part, even tough most dont aspirate or “you wont need to” aspirate in delt, it still little confuses me little.
Have taken multiple times in my life all kind of bloodworks and full blood panel, just like 1 week ago. There is nothing wrong in them. If i have been in low test since i had it first taken when i was 16y, and now i administer it on my own to get it up, why you dont understand ? feels absolutely shit to sit on 10 nmol/l. When i did blast 500mg/week 3 months, i felt better than in my whole life, and bloodworks even got better, wich was wierd. Only thing i didnt take back then was ferritine, and it was dropped down to 16. Thanks for someone that suggested me to go take the ferritine.
What country are you in? If US, there are “doctors”, and then there are “TRT Clinics”. Doctors will tell you ‘no’, and TRT Clinics will take your money - then give you the test (within reason).
I’m 28 and at the low end of the margin as well. My Dr. told me “no”. I have many of the same symptoms you have, but still, I have not decided upon myself to jump through TRT because for many it is a lifelong comittment. The way you are doing this will likely force your hand to staying with TRT forever, or suffering worse symptoms of hypogonadism without your ‘fix’.
I really dont agree with your methods here, they are short-sighted.
In Finland. Here you just get bipolar meds and all others. You get way more easily 8mg klonopin a day or an Oxycontin precription than an testosterone. “testosterone is so bad!”. Actually my plan is to stay on “trt” for the rest of my life. Actually here is only one pivate clinic doctor who specialize these things and is good on them, but it so far away and would cost tons of money, wich i dont have. I will NEVER get trt in my country from public healthcare, doctors are too afraid to give it, even when the problem clearly is lack of testosterone and all blood things have been taken.
So you intend to stay on TRT for the rest of your life, but have no reliable Pharma grade test, and don’t have a ton of money?
Not judging on the money aspect, I just don’t think it makes sense to dedicate yourself to something you have no reliable access to - and don’t have a ton of money if things go sideways (which can certainly happen with TRT).
The good thing in my country is, that health care is realy good and Free. If things get bad or anything, you will get help immidietly, so that is not something i worry. Actually, the only thing like i said i worry about, is the injection part. That somehow i will manage to dump the 125mg to my delt in artery or something.
From those pics and not only those pictures (on that site you posted about injecting) it realy looks like pinning more of the front delt than directly straight in from site. Actually i have done that mistake too. I did not pay enought attention, and ended up putting it almost in front delt and hit nerve, BOOM that shit hurt badly. Thats why i never just jab it in quick, i go slowly.
If all you’re actually worried about is where you can safely pin, you should have made that more clear. You’re giving us all these details that don’t actually matter or have anything to do with your real concerns.
There are actually very few pinning locations that are legitimately dangerous. People don’t get sick or have issues because they pinned in the wrong place, they have issues because of contaminated steroids, bacteria, infections, allergic reactions, etc. None of this has anything to do with WHERE you pin. I know people who have pinned their biceps, triceps, delts (all 3 delt heads), calves, glutes (side and rear), any quad head, abs and lats. Location is not your problem. Now, pain threshold is another thing. Some of these locations can come with a lot of pip. But pip is not actually dangerous in and of itself. It just sucks, haha.
The only locations I personally use are quads, glutes and delts. I’ve done front and side delts, multiple glute locations, and multiple quad heads. Never had an issue outside of some pain. I’ve found glutes to be reliably the least painful, followed by delts, and then quads. Honestly, you’re just going to have to get over the pain. It’s minimal, and you’re an adult. Deal with it.
Thanks alot. I made my post and information a little bit wrong. I take care of hygienic. Swap with alcohol pads and everything, to be as safe away from bacteria or infection i can. About those locations, some of my friends tend to pin anywhere, also those wierd locations. I am actually surprised that they have not have any health problems, because they are coughing and get redness very often, and they be like “oh its not a big problem, you just cough sometimes littlebit” and they dont care about the redness. Saw my friends ass yesturday, it was red like lobster. I did never massage my glute afterwards and had no problems, but i just pinned again on my left delt, but now i massaged it like 2 minutes after injection. No blood came out. I am sure it is little sore tomorrow again, maybe it goes away like in month, when the muscle gets use to it ? and part of reason i think is because of propionate.
i dont think you know what blasting is…
blasting means using a bit more steroids for shorter period of time to gain muscle and strenght… since you are 70kgs, you have never ever blasted.
And i think you are one of those who cruise with atleast 500mg of test. I did 500mg 4 months 1.5 years ago, then i did stop. It was just for a curiousity to see how i respond to Testosterone, and my body did respond damn well. Also didnt need any Ai’s, estrogen did barely even rise. But this has nothing to do with this topic.
That’s great, but you’re not making the steroids yourself, correct? And you don’t have access to where they are made, correct? Don’t be so foolish to think that the ‘hygiene’ is completely in your hands. Cleaning the area before you pin is obviously smart, but the real risk is contaminated steroids themselves, as they are not pharma grade.
Anyway. It sounds like you’re really not ‘getting it’. So I’m done here.