This should be a very interesting documentary. I wonder how hard the church has fought to try and kill this film?
http://www.disarmingfilms.com/trailer_large.mov
Is this a documentary?
Either way, I am not sure how people are going to react to it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
http://www.disarmingfilms.com/trailer_large.mov
Is this a documentary?
Either way, I am not sure how people are going to react to it. [/quote]
Documentary.
Looks interesting, although I’m sure like all documentaries, for the truth they do have, they back it up with an equal amount of sludge.
As far as the abuse itself, most people don’t realize that abuse is just as prevalent in other professions, religions, etc. Does that make it right? Not at all. I think it is important to realize though that often times money is the driving factor in what makes it seem so localized on the Catholic church. When you sue the local baptist church pastor, you are looking at a couple hundred thou.
When you sue the Catholic church - you sue the WHOLE diocese. Thats big bucks.
It’s about time.
Its peices of shit like this that you want to throw in shackles and make them walk in front of half the town when your arresting them, and the hit their head on the side of the patrol car when you are putting them in the back seat. And if things work out just right, maybe they can get shot trying to escape.
I really wish that the college I am going to now wasn’t so heavily populated by catholics, they have priests give seminars a couple times a month.
I hope like hell that they start looking heavily into accusations of priest sex abuse. Child molesters do not fair well in prison, regardless of wether they are priests or not.
I really wish that the college I am going to now wasn’t so heavily populated by catholics, they have priests give seminars a couple times a month.
This is a mature statement devoid of any prejudice. How old are you? All Catholics are bad and are Catholic priests are child molesters??? I can’t believe you made it to college like this. You should be ashamed of yourself and your biggoted ways.
There have been instances of the Church of the Bretheren as well as other Protestant religios leaders sexually abuing people locally.
It is never as big a story as it is when a Catholic priest does it.
This problem is not unique to the Catholic Church.
It can happen anywhere that adults are put in charge of children. Which is pretty much everywhere.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
There have been instances of the Church of the Bretheren as well as other Protestant religios leaders sexually abuing people locally.
It is never as big a story as it is when a Catholic priest does it.
This problem is not unique to the Catholic Church.
It can happen anywhere that adults are put in charge of children. Which is pretty much everywhere.[/quote]
There is no question about that but do realize how big the catholic church is.
[quote]dead_lifter5000 wrote:
I really wish that the college I am going to now wasn’t so heavily populated by catholics, they have priests give seminars a couple times a month.
This is a mature statement devoid of any prejudice. How old are you? All Catholics are bad and are Catholic priests are child molesters??? I can’t believe you made it to college like this. You should be ashamed of yourself and your biggoted ways.
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You don’t understand my point. The college I go to isn’t considered a college for a specific religion, however, it seems like only catholics are allowed to speak. I am all for religions speaking, as long as the protestants, the jews, the muslims and the buddhists are all gaven an equal chance to perpetuate their views.
Actually, sorry about my first post. I am just very very very grumpy today, and I shouldn’t be taking it out on my fellow t-people.
Its obviously not just the Catholic church or priests as a profession - i would think that those who want to molest children try to get themselves a job which gets them easy access to kids and also a measure of power - social worker,teacher, preacher. A very sad affairwhich needs to be fully exposed. It was ignored here in Ireland for many years with priests simply being moved to another parish once allegations were made.
It’s got “activist documentary” written all over it, complete with the “attempt to deliver a letter” crap. Which isn’t to say that the priest-abuse scandal isn’t a legitimate and extremely serious problem, although its seems mostly to be in the past. All of the individuals involved should be punished in one way or another. I wouldn’t mind an actual honest documentary, but this seems like a hit piece a la Michael Moore/Morgan Spurlock.
As others have noted, sexual abuse isn’t limited to the Catholic Church. A lot of the coverage is driven by litigation and the litigation is driven by money. The Church is large and has assets so is a convenient target for litigation. Joe-bob’s independent Baptist Church is not a deep pocket target.
There’s a lot of sexual abuse related to teachers, for example, that goes unreported (although not unpunished). Except when it’s an attractive female teacher sleeping with male students – because that’s news(i.e. entertainment). Basically, people who want to abuse children often find professions where they can be around children unsupervised (e.g. teacher, psychologist, religious figure).
There’s a lot of history and baggage that goes into it, but the Catholic scandal has a lot to do with (1) the post-Vatican II church, (2) and the increased percentage of gays in the clergy thereafter. There actually were very few true pedophiles (people attracted to pre-pubescent children). Mostly the abusers were “ephebophile” gay men attracted to youthful (post-pubescent) males. Very few of these cases involved women or girls.
The reason a lot of coverage is given to child molestation/rape by Catholic priests is for 2 reasons:
1.) Because it’s SO opposite to what priests are supposed to represent, in terms of being representatives of God on earth and preachers of God’s word, and supposedly leading by example. Raping or molesting a child violates that on SO many fronts it’s just ludicrous, even far beyond when it happens with teachers, engineers, bus drivers, politicians, etc.
2.) Because it’s become SUCH a pandemic in the Catholic church worldwide. The problem has been most pursued and most “outed” in the U.S., but there have since been tons of similar cases discovered in South America, Europe, etc.
Additionally, there was an INSTITUTIONAL policy of coverup in many cases, with cardinals playing shell games with priests, merely moving them from their current diocese to a different one when they “slipped up” and fucked a kid, and NEVER reporting these incidents (FELONIES, no less) to law enforcement. Even the previous Pope (John Paul), instead of somehow punishing or excommunicating John Egan, the Boston cardinal who covered up this shit for SO many years, merely had him “reassigned” to a cozy position in Rome.
It’s fucking horrid. This is certainly not to say that all priests are molesters. Not by a long shot. But BOY does that institution have a problem.