[quote]paulieserafini wrote:
lol, so did you ever cut naturally or whatnot?
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I used albuterol but never fully recovered my six pack[/quote]
ever wonder how much better you’d be at this if you could do things like cut and grow naturally before ever touching a drug?[/quote]
LOL I have seen a lot of your posts on this site and have come to the conclusion that you are a needy, judgmental cunt with self esteem issues. Why you at all think you should be giving advice is beyond me.[/quote]
ha, damn, I didn’t think I was all that bad or made people really feel that way.
I don’t come here to make enemies
I kinda like you.
From my experience you’re a very helpful dude.
sorry you feel that way my dude.[/quote]
LOL!
If you had a sliver of self-esteem you would at least have told him to fuck off…
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Lol, you seriously could not be more wrong. People with high self esteem don’t give a shit what others think, and don’t let someone else’s opinion of them cause a knee jerk reaction to tell them to fuck off.
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Bingo. NorCal is 100% off on this. It shows remarkable self esteem by Paul that he didn’t lash out, cuz he knows he is better than VTBalla said and doesn’t feel the need to try and prove it to anyone.
Also I’m a bit perplexed by VTBalla’s hatin. W/e from what I’ve seen Paulie’s awesome. Also I think his avatar alone is proof that he’s “qualified” to hand out bodybuilding advice based on his own experiences.
[quote]zraw wrote:
In a “sport” where one results doesnt affect anyone else sometimes I wonder why one is judged over using roids to reach their goals (that could be attainable natty) earlier and more easily
Yes im serious here
I may even make a thread to discuss this in debt
Whats the problem if someone doesnt wanna work “as hard” as someone else to get to a lean 185lbs? And doesnt want it to take as much time as it would natty?
Dont throw the health aspect at me here, everyone is free to choose they take care (or not) of their body
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I think the hate comes when those kids try and give advice.
If it took someone chemical assistance to reach 185lbs, they should probably not insist they know anything about training.
Nobody is going to judge someone who keeps their mouth shut.
This kid came in, said he fucked himself up using steroids, and then proceeded to shit on everyone who tried to help him. That’s why he receives so much flak.
Nobody is judging anybody, we just don’t like when fools parade as kings in our kingdom.
Wouldn’t it piss you off ZRAW if this kid took the same approach as he did here, to a real-life conversation with you?
[quote]zraw wrote:
In a “sport” where one results doesnt affect anyone else sometimes I wonder why one is judged over using roids to reach their goals (that could be attainable natty) earlier and more easily
Yes im serious here
I may even make a thread to discuss this in debt
Whats the problem if someone doesnt wanna work “as hard” as someone else to get to a lean 185lbs? And doesnt want it to take as much time as it would natty?
Dont throw the health aspect at me here, everyone is free to choose they take care (or not) of their body
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I think the hate comes when those kids try and give advice.
If it took someone chemical assistance to reach 185lbs, they should probably not insist they know anything about training.
Nobody is going to judge someone who keeps their mouth shut.
This kid came in, said he fucked himself up using steroids, and then proceeded to shit on everyone who tried to help him. That’s why he receives so much flak.
Nobody is judging anybody, we just don’t like when fools parade as kings in our kingdom.
Wouldn’t it piss you off ZRAW if this kid took the same approach as he did here, to a real-life conversation with you?[/quote]
One don’t get your panties in a bunch, two where did I act or say I was an expert? I just said I knew that sides and possible repercussions of using too young and I said idgaf.
[quote]zraw wrote:
In a “sport” where one results doesnt affect anyone else sometimes I wonder why one is judged over using roids to reach their goals (that could be attainable natty) earlier and more easily
Yes im serious here
I may even make a thread to discuss this in debt
Whats the problem if someone doesnt wanna work “as hard” as someone else to get to a lean 185lbs? And doesnt want it to take as much time as it would natty?
Dont throw the health aspect at me here, everyone is free to choose they take care (or not) of their body
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What do you think of the health aspects of pinning? I just want your genuine opinion since I respect your physique so much and I am not at all against going the unnatural route.
Also, Paulie, you have been one of my favorite posters on this site for a while and always seemed to have quality posts. Not sure where the hate is coming from.
In regards to the original post keep your cals about 500-750 below maintenance so you dont catabolize too much. High protein all the time, creatine and aminos help preserve too. Low carb diet always works well, high fat high protein most days, when you start to drag have a refeed (not a cheat!) day with mostly carbs, protein, and no fat, so the insulin will put the sugars where they wanna be without dragging any fat along with it.
Clenbuterol, albuterol, or ephedrine are fine but dont form a habit, be careful what other stims you use alongside(caffeine, B vitas, guarana, etc) and always mind your heart rate, what you may find easy now wont be in a few years especially if you happen to smoke cigarrettes or do anything else consistent with people that tend towards the party spectrum
Don’t ever expect any sympathy for drug related issues from almost anyone. Its amazing how indignant people become as if what you do is offensive and/or cheapens their success. In any case in regards to the other thread someone linked, do more research on what you put in yourself. PCT is more important than the gear itself in terms of protecting you and anything you may actually get on it. Timing is important, learn the half-lives. Learn what things are being suppressed by what you introduce and understand how to get em to come back online, you should pretty much be a chemist/biologist.
PS Anyone who needs validation of their worth or presence on a forum is lame. stop moistening this website