Ive came to the conclusion that i am going to give the “Miracle stack” a try…Im goina be doing 300mg of deca a week for weeks 1-10 and run 50mg dbol a day for 6 weeks…Should i run the dbol the 1st 6 weeks or last 6 weeks…I always thought 1st to give the stack a jump start but in “Anabolics2000” it has it for the last 6 weeks…I think they have it the last 6 weeks because deca is fast acting. But i didnt think it was as fast as deca…
Sound ok?..i also have some clomids
Your deca dossage is too low. Also consider adding some tren, and nolvadex to counteract the dbol aromatizing.
Agreed. Double up your Deca dosage for sure, about 600mg per week atleast. 50mg of Dbol per day is gonna call for some Nolvadex too. Start off with 10mg of Nolva per day and go from there.
Will do…Ill up the deca dosage and add some nolvadex…I cant get tren for a good price so i cant use that but i will use nolvadex and up my deca dosage
Thank Alot guys i apreciate it
Do, a search on this forum about Deca. It’s not reccomened. How old are you anyways.
you cant get tren for a good price??? you must not have tried very hard.
10 weeks of deca, and to make matters worse, with no test. not good. either add a test blend at 500mgs/wk or drop the deca and add eq.
Yeah im not a big fan of deca either.
If you just gotta take it i’d double the dose and throw in some test prop to keep all the negative deca sides at bay.
Hell i’d run the prop about 3 weeks longer than the deca so you wont get that horrid deca crash when ya come off.
Your post cycle recovery should be very aggresive as well.
Hell as far as the tren goes you can mix up about 40cc’s for around 80 bucks.
PM me for details.
i also have a 50mg/50ml jar of equipoise…i could throw that in there too…but i would still need some test so i dont become a limpo
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I have no problem with Deca. I believe just like every steroid, it has its uses and its sides. 10 weeks is a bit long of a cycle though, keep in mind that the decanate ester can stay in your system for as long as a month so a 10 week cycle can be actually a 14 week cycle. I also never run deca as my “main” steroid or should I put it this way: I never build a cycle around deca. It however is a good steroid to run in smaller dosages in the background. I have found that deca works well with test, with winstrol and dbol and tren, You can counteract the “deca dick” by using either Hcg, test or even winstrol seems to help. One thing to watch for is that the antiinflamitory affects of deca can bite you in the ass. You can injure yourself by training too heavy and you will not know it until you come off the deca and experience the inflamitory rebound. -All of a sudden every joint in your body will hurt (believe me It happened to me my first time and was not pretty!). That’s another reason why I keep the doses down (myself personally)
A good cycle would be this:
75 tren ed
200 deca per week
75 winstrol per day
15 dbol per day
(good lean mass)
heres another
75 tren eod
400 deca per week
25 dbol per day
(Great strength gains and lean mass - some bloat)
and another:
600 test enantate per week
400 deca per week
25 dbol per day (optional)
(or any other variation)
(bulking type cycle)
The first two cycles are my more favorite ones
I have also run a maintainance cycle of 100 test 100 deca per week which I found to work for that purpose.
I wouldn’t recommend adding equipoise. it has a super long half-life and can seriously raise hematocrit levels. All I remember is after my last eq cycles I had some pretty good splitting headaches, and my head felt like I was going to stroke/ explode every time I had to cough or sneeze. If you are already doing deca and dbol the only steroids I would add to the mix would be either test, tren, or winstrol (see my first two example cycles) P-22
P22, Thanx alot that Info Helped me alot…yea, i already got the deca 300 and dbol and clomids and nolvadex…so i will get a jar of test and add that into the mix…I dont know if i wanan use tren cause i have herd its harsh…But i know whenever u read an article on it they say its not that harsh its all just rumors, but i dont want to take a chance…If you feel there is no harm in it lemme know and ill consider it a little more.
Also P22 Were you saying you would recommend adding the EQ to teh cycle i have r one of the examples you gave me?..i do have a 50ml jar of eq i was going to use but it is so much like deca and so much like dbol i figured it wouldnt do nothing.If my info is wrong or just twisted lemme know…
Thanx alot again
I don’t think you need to add the Eq into the cycle, you can save it for your next cylce. Also 50mg/ml is a lot of oil to inject -combined with its very long half life which means you have to get a pretty serious frontload in to have any reasonable effects. Pic either the equipoise or the deca, not both.
As far as Trenbolone goes, There are many on this form who have used it and love it. I guess I could say I am one of them. It manifest very little side effects. The only one I notice is dark concentrated urine,if I haven’t had enough water to drink.
Some of the potetial sides are:
hair loss in those with male pattern balding - propecia
progesteronic gyno which is very uncommon and can be controled by either using bromocryptine or chaste berry (vitex)
Cramping - can be controled with a little potasium supplementation
The Fina cough - caused by allergens in the sollution, I have found this may be lessened by using insulin pins so as to not inject as deep, and also inject slower.
the good effects of trenbolone are lean hard mass and strength/ power gains with very little to no water retention.