Dealing with People Who...

Quick question to the OP. How do you know that the info you are getting about these guys talking shit is legit? Ever think that the guy you cornered might have told you a lie or exagerated to get you out of his face?

[quote]Oleena wrote:
You have to learn to care more about yourself.

You seriously care more about these shit-heads getting what they deserve than you getting what you deserve (which is an education and a life with other people who care more)? How the fuck is that justice?

You’re being the worst kind of martyr.

And yes, that was a waste, I just needed to say it.[/quote]

I do care about myself more, and thats why when it has ventured on threats I am going to fuck someone up. Nobody will threaten me for an unjustified reason based on their own little convoluted world. I respect myself enough to not take that kind of shit. And yes, people say “they will get what is coming to them, its karma” or some kind of bullshit. I am the guy that is going to give them what they deserve…a wheelchair.

-Zep

[quote]ColumboSteel wrote:
Quick question to the OP. How do you know that the info you are getting about these guys talking shit is legit? Ever think that the guy you cornered might have told you a lie or exagerated to get you out of his face?[/quote]

Today it came from the horses mouth, so to speak.

-Zep

[quote]Zeppelin0731 wrote:

[quote]ColumboSteel wrote:
Quick question to the OP. How do you know that the info you are getting about these guys talking shit is legit? Ever think that the guy you cornered might have told you a lie or exagerated to get you out of his face?[/quote]

Today it came from the horses mouth, so to speak.

-Zep[/quote]

Take it from another angry motherfucker you’ve got to harness your anger and use it for success or it will eat you alive.

These type of assholes your dealing with, you’re going to have to deal with them in different situations the rest of your life. Trust me, I deal with them on a daily basis.

Like BG said, you’ve got to cut loose negative pseudo friends, acquittances, and people that stand in your way to achieve your goals.

What are these people saying that pisses your off so badly?

White trash corn pone, sisterfucker etc?

[quote]Zeppelin0731 wrote:
Ok, I may seem like an angry person, but that is because quitting, excuses, ingratitude, disrespect, arrogance, disloyalty, superficiality, selfishness, hopelessness, wasted talents, and perfectionists piss me off. There is so much of it in the world. I wont block it out as I believe that awareness is greater than ignorance. So if you were wondering why I get so pissed, that is why. I believe that to tolerate it is to say that it is ok, so I let people know in the simplest and most direct way I can when I disagree, and what is going to happen to them if they dont knock it off. I dont care if I get my ass beat, or if I come off like a jerk. I cant sleep at night if I dont stand up for what I think is right. These posts are proof of that.

Thanks again for the input everyone.

-Zep[/quote]

So, you get angry a lot.

And you believe your anger means something in the grand scheme of things.

Fascinating.

Wow. Isn’t this dude in college and just now figuring out that people talk shit?

Bro, I don’t give a fuck who you are, everyone you’ve ever come in to normal contact with has probably talked shit about it. It’s just the little bitch-gossipy judgmental culture we live in.

And you’re really THAT concerned with what they think? Grow a pair.

You may think that the alpha thing to do is to go all beast mode in their asses. Well, no, that’s the immature and irrational thing to do. Turn the other way and don’t pay them one HINT of respect or attention, because they don’t deserve it.

It’s really not much more complicated than that.

[quote]SSC wrote:
Wow. Isn’t this dude in college and just now figuring out that people talk shit?

Bro, I don’t give a fuck who you are, everyone you’ve ever come in to normal contact with has probably talked shit about it. It’s just the little bitch-gossipy judgmental culture we live in.

And you’re really THAT concerned with what they think? Grow a pair.

You may think that the alpha thing to do is to go all beast mode in their asses. Well, no, that’s the immature and irrational thing to do. Turn the other way and don’t pay them one HINT of respect or attention, because they don’t deserve it.

It’s really not much more complicated than that.[/quote]

Agreed.

I was going to pipe in and support many of the various posters throughout this thread that have it figured out, but then realised it’s pointless. I remember when I was 17 and full of anger and thought the world owed me respect, I never would’ve listened to a bunch of strangers tell me otherwise.

People need to experience life and learn this shit for themselves. You can truly only learn from your own mistakes.

Dude, the world is full of passive-aggressive, backstabbing little pussycakes! Imagine, if every time you encountered one these little idiots you really did ‘crack some skulls’?

Your life isn’t to be a very good one if you can’t see beyond the: I must exact retribution for every little injustice I suffer, mindset.

Find healthier outlets for your anger & learn to pity such people.

[quote]Zeppelin0731 wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:
You have to learn to care more about yourself.

You seriously care more about these shit-heads getting what they deserve than you getting what you deserve (which is an education and a life with other people who care more)? How the fuck is that justice?

You’re being the worst kind of martyr.

And yes, that was a waste, I just needed to say it.[/quote]

I do care about myself more, and thats why when it has ventured on threats I am going to fuck someone up. Nobody will threaten me for an unjustified reason based on their own little convoluted world. I respect myself enough to not take that kind of shit. And yes, people say “they will get what is coming to them, its karma” or some kind of bullshit. I am the guy that is going to give them what they deserve…a wheelchair.

-Zep[/quote]

There are many out there who will try to manipulate your anger. If they can get you to be angry and do something to fuck up your life, they win. Disengagement is actually the only way you can win.

Think about it like a chess game. You can’t take them out with your king and still win. That’s what I mean by a lack of self-respect.

Honestly, it sounds like you’re choosing to fuck up your life by hanging out with a bunch of drama-creating idiots. Just know that you made that choice. They didn’t force you to.

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin0731 wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:
You have to learn to care more about yourself.

You seriously care more about these shit-heads getting what they deserve than you getting what you deserve (which is an education and a life with other people who care more)? How the fuck is that justice?

You’re being the worst kind of martyr.

And yes, that was a waste, I just needed to say it.[/quote]

I do care about myself more, and thats why when it has ventured on threats I am going to fuck someone up. Nobody will threaten me for an unjustified reason based on their own little convoluted world. I respect myself enough to not take that kind of shit. And yes, people say “they will get what is coming to them, its karma” or some kind of bullshit. I am the guy that is going to give them what they deserve…a wheelchair.

-Zep[/quote]

Honestly, it sounds like you’re choosing to fuck up your life by hanging out with a bunch of drama-creating idiots. Just know that you made that choice. They didn’t force you to.[/quote]

And most of these drama queens do not even have breasticles!

OP, you are a troubled young man. I hope you can grow up and find a sense of self worth sooner rather than later. These things you’ve said you are going to do will get you nowhere. Seriously, if you were my kid in college, I’d have driven to campus and kicked your ass for acting like this. There’s a lot more to life. Go out and live some of it.

Cut the cancer out of your life and move on to better things. No reason to let people drag you down man. No reason to do something dumb and be the one who looks like a angry fool.

[quote]Zeppelin0731 wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:
You have to learn to care more about yourself.

You seriously care more about these shit-heads getting what they deserve than you getting what you deserve (which is an education and a life with other people who care more)? How the fuck is that justice?

You’re being the worst kind of martyr.

And yes, that was a waste, I just needed to say it.[/quote]

I do care about myself more, and thats why when it has ventured on threats I am going to fuck someone up. Nobody will threaten me for an unjustified reason based on their own little convoluted world. I respect myself enough to not take that kind of shit. And yes, people say “they will get what is coming to them, its karma” or some kind of bullshit. I am the guy that is going to give them what they deserve…a wheelchair.

-Zep[/quote]

You know what? You’re going to think I’m a dick, and so be it, but I’m going to call you on this bullshit.

First, raging on the internet is bullshit. You didn’t come here to ask for advice, you came here to “vent” and get some attention for your anger, which you have in abundance. I know all about anger, it was the monkey on my back forever.

Next, I think it’s you that lives a sheltered life too. Who comes to the internet complaining about someone that isn’t even here? And talking about fucking them up? They aren’t even here dude!

You’re sheltered, because you apparently cannot distinguish between a real threat and shit talk. Where I’m from, you’d never come out of your house, or you’d be a victim, or you’d be dead, or in jail. The only real threat is when someone puts their hands on you or, makes a specific threat that you know they are willing and able to execute. In either case, I’d recommend you treat both with extreme prejudice - which means getting to work on that rather than typing and “raging” here.

However, I suspect your problems fall under “shit talk” and your feelings are hurt, which is understandable. Move on. Find new friends. And adopt some better standards for who you call friend in the future. If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t be so fucking angry. You care. You’re obviously hurt. Okay, that’s fair. But just move along, gracefully.

There is no “threat” here.

There are two kind of dogs that are instructive to your personal situation. There is the dog that stands on the other side of the fence, and he barks, snarls and growls at every perceived “threat”. By the time the day is over, and enough people have walked down the sidewalk, this fucking dog is a tired frustrated dog. And then there is the other dog (the one that should worry you), who stands on his side of the fence watching you, calmly, just in case you decide to climb over his fence. As long as you don’t climb over his fence, he’s only peripherally aware of you. He’s aware, but he’s not obsessed with you. If you come closer to his fence, you now have his attention. If you climb over his fence uninvited, he now has a piece of your leg.

These motherfuckers you’re bitching and moaning about are walking on the sidewalk. They’re the type that give you the finger on the highway as they’re exiting the highway.

Now, do you want to be some frothing, snarling, snapping, barking NERVOUS dog running back and forth along his fence line flipping out at every perceived threat, or do you want to be that calm motherfucker, master-of-his-yard, not really concerned about what’s outside his fence until it tries to come over uninvited?

Which one do you think you are?

And please, do not besmirch the positive message and success of Dave Tate by making a not-so-veiled association to your situation. Dave is a FOCUSED, drive business man. He has his eye on the fence, but he’s too busy building an addition to his dog house to be worried about everyone walking on the sidewalk making noise…until you cross the fence to fuck with his doghouse.

Learn the difference and be happier.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And please, do not besmirch the positive message and success of Dave Tate by making a not-so-veiled association to your situation. Dave is a FOCUSED, drive business man. He has his eye on the fence, but he’s too busy building an addition to his dog house to be worried about everyone walking on the sidewalk making noise…until you cross the fence to fuck with his doghouse.

Learn the difference and be happier. [/quote]

Just popped in and read your last 2 BG. Well stated.

I basically live by the rule that I focus on what I can control, and I don’t let anybody rent space in my head without putting down a security deposit.

In other words, you cannot control how other people act or what they say and you have a choice and control over what thoughts occupy your head.

Focus on what you can control. Don’t let meaningless people rent space in your head.

Consider it a lesson and move on.

It’s a shame the OP is more concerned about dealing with people he knows who don’t give a rats ass about him and are treating him like shit instead of listening to the advice of a bunch of people who don’t know him, and never will, yet truly care about his well being and future.

[quote]apwsearch wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And please, do not besmirch the positive message and success of Dave Tate by making a not-so-veiled association to your situation. Dave is a FOCUSED, drive business man. He has his eye on the fence, but he’s too busy building an addition to his dog house to be worried about everyone walking on the sidewalk making noise…until you cross the fence to fuck with his doghouse.

Learn the difference and be happier. [/quote]

Just popped in and read your last 2 BG. Well stated.

I basically live by the rule that I focus on what I can control, and I don’t let anybody rent space in my head without putting down a security deposit.

In other words, you cannot control how other people act or what they say and you have a choice and control over what thoughts occupy your head.

Focus on what you can control. Don’t let meaningless people rent space in your head.

Consider it a lesson and move on.[/quote]

You guys are like the long-winded, ghetto version of Reinhold Niebuhr.

“God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.”

[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
You guys are like the long-winded, ghetto version of Reinhold Niebuhr.

“God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.”[/quote]

Ghetto? I would confidentally state I could buy and sell your silly ass for a nickel and my accountant wouldn’t even comment on it.

I could make a video of me fucking your significant other, mail it to you, and you would state it’s the most beautiful video you ever watched. You would be ashamed of yourself.

Run along now, Junior. Mommy says your fishsticks are done.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And please, do not besmirch the positive message and success of Dave Tate by making a not-so-veiled association to your situation. Dave is a FOCUSED, drive business man. He has his eye on the fence, but he’s too busy building an addition to his dog house to be worried about everyone walking on the sidewalk making noise…until you cross the fence to fuck with his doghouse.

Learn the difference and be happier. [/quote]

I find the video to make a lot of sense. I admire Dave Tate. He is the man in my book. I was posting it because its a valid outlook on peoples values and living with your own moral compass, rather than by what others would have you do. Honestly, I think Dave Tate talks more truth than anyone else on this site.

To the poster who said that I think my anger has a pull on the overall situation, or something to that effect…No I am not that delusional, sorry to disappoint you.

I also took care of the problem last night. I did what someone else here suggested. I found the guy who was responsible for talking the majority of the shit and who made a threat via text message last night, and I told him that he was a pussy for not saying it to my face. He just stood there silently looking at the floor. I told him that talking shit is for pussies, like him, and that if he ever had a problem and wanted to go toe to settle it for good, then he knows how to find me, but until that day Im gonna look at him like the bitch he is. Not much else was said, and he eventually just walked away. It felt good.

Im gonna cut all this shit out. I feel like, as you said, it takes a lot out of me to keep up the high strung bullshit all the time. I still feel like I need an outlet, lifting is wonderful, but doesnt completely get it out of my system. I guess it is something that Im gonna have to figure out.

You hit the nail on the head when you said that this was a vent. I did it so that I had an outlet for my anger, so I could explain my situation and get it out before I made a poor decision. I also enjoy getting opinions on the situation, as I find that in my anger I overlook a lot of opinions.

You are correct, the scariest dog is the one that doesnt bark. I actually really enjoyed the analogy. Metaphors are some of my favorite ways to learn and explain things.

The wierd thing is that I really am pretty selective of friends already, it seems this one kinds slipped through the cracks because of certain circumstances (not knowing anyone at college). I learned a lot of good shit in this one. For instance, friends of friends are not your friends, and generally shit about who is actually a friend, and who is essentially a parasite for lack of a better word.

You live, you learn. Such is life. Im just pissed at myself, as I stated earlier, for letting it get to this point without realizing it.

-Zep

Holy shit. This whole thread was about a text message.