I get sick of hearing that Yoko broke up the Beatles. It’s like blaming your friends new girlfriend for the fact you never see him anymore.
Yoko didn’t make JL do anything he didn’t want. He was a grown man, an adult and could make his own decisions.
[quote]GCF wrote:
I get sick of hearing that Yoko broke up the Beatles. It’s like blaming your friends new girlfriend for the fact you never see him anymore.
Yoko didn’t make JL do anything he didn’t want. He was a grown man, an adult and could make his own decisions. [/quote]
Is it not still your friend’s new girlfriend’s fault? If she dislikes you and manages to pick away at a life-long camaraderie with a childhood friend just because she wants the easy way out of not dealing with you face to face on the issue, is she not a terrible person forcing an equally terrible hand?
I agree that Yoko didn’t make Lennon do anything he didn’t want, the issue is in her moulding what he did and did not want to suit herself and her misguided sense of importance relative to the situation.
She was a piece of arse. A walking, talking, vagina. That was all she was and in the face of influence that was all she deserved to be. She was with John largely because of who he was, and mostly solely because she was in the right decade doing the right things around the right people. John’s embrace of the counter-culture opened the doors for Yoko to slither her way in. Maybe she enjoyed the company at first but Paul did not lose sight of what he was, of who John was, and of what The Beatles were.
Her ego and her sense that she should be someone if just for a ring on John’s finger and a frilly white dress is asinine. She was overshadowed, and she wanted more. She was relentless in her ambition to get that faux recognition she believed she deserved, and the band that grew from humble beginnings to the calling card of a nation was left broken and tattered in her wake.
He made a decision, but it would be wrong to assume it was inherently his.
To get this back on track.
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[quote]GCF wrote:
I get sick of hearing that Yoko broke up the Beatles. It’s like blaming your friends new girlfriend for the fact you never see him anymore.
Yoko didn’t make JL do anything he didn’t want. He was a grown man, an adult and could make his own decisions. [/quote]
I think you’re confusing “fault” and “cause”.
It is more accurate then to say that Yoko Ono was the cause of the Beatle’s demise.
[quote]Nards wrote:
It is more accurate then to say that Yoko Ono was the cause of the Beatle’s demise.[/quote]
In fairness the subject interests me little and I’m no expert. However I am a human being and in my experience pinning this stuff on one person is far too simplistic.
It’s entirely plausible to me that JL was looking for something different and he found it and went with it. Had Yoko not been on the scene then it may have been someone else everyone is saying broke up the Beatles. Bands break up all the time for all kinds of reasons.
Yoko didn’t have magical powers and JL was a consenting adult - why don’t people say that he broke up the beatles?
My analogy of the relationship. When a married man walks out on his family for a new woman is she the ‘cause’ of the breakup? A factor maybe but I can guarantee he wasn’t happy in his relationship, he was bored, the new woman made him feel manly, homelife with the kids was too hard, he was flattered, he liked showing off the younger woman to his friends, his wife was a nagging bitch, it’s exciting etc etc… She didn’t break up the marriage, if it wasn’t her it may have been someone else in 6 months…
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[quote]GCF wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
It is more accurate then to say that Yoko Ono was the cause of the Beatle’s demise.[/quote]
In fairness the subject interests me little and I’m no expert. However I am a human being and in my experience pinning this stuff on one person is far too simplistic.
It’s entirely plausible to me that JL was looking for something different and he found it and went with it. Had Yoko not been on the scene then it may have been someone else everyone is saying broke up the Beatles. Bands break up all the time for all kinds of reasons.
Yoko didn’t have magical powers and JL was a consenting adult - why don’t people say that he broke up the beatles?
My analogy of the relationship. When a married man walks out on his family for a new woman is she the ‘cause’ of the breakup? A factor maybe but I can guarantee he wasn’t happy in his relationship, he was bored, the new woman made him feel manly, homelife with the kids was too hard, he was flattered, he liked showing off the younger woman to his friends, his wife was a nagging bitch, it’s exciting etc etc… She didn’t break up the marriage, if it wasn’t her it may have been someone else in 6 months… [/quote]
It was of course both of them, but Yoko is very easy to hate because of her pretentious attempts at art.
I never really liked John Lennon much and I think he was a big phony.
[quote]Nards wrote:
[quote]GCF wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
It is more accurate then to say that Yoko Ono was the cause of the Beatle’s demise.[/quote]
In fairness the subject interests me little and I’m no expert. However I am a human being and in my experience pinning this stuff on one person is far too simplistic.
It’s entirely plausible to me that JL was looking for something different and he found it and went with it. Had Yoko not been on the scene then it may have been someone else everyone is saying broke up the Beatles. Bands break up all the time for all kinds of reasons.
Yoko didn’t have magical powers and JL was a consenting adult - why don’t people say that he broke up the beatles?
My analogy of the relationship. When a married man walks out on his family for a new woman is she the ‘cause’ of the breakup? A factor maybe but I can guarantee he wasn’t happy in his relationship, he was bored, the new woman made him feel manly, homelife with the kids was too hard, he was flattered, he liked showing off the younger woman to his friends, his wife was a nagging bitch, it’s exciting etc etc… She didn’t break up the marriage, if it wasn’t her it may have been someone else in 6 months… [/quote]
It was of course both of them, but Yoko is very easy to hate because of her pretentious attempts at art.
I never really liked John Lennon much and I think he was a big phony.
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[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Still better than Yoko.
[quote]Nards wrote:
[quote]GCF wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
It is more accurate then to say that Yoko Ono was the cause of the Beatle’s demise.[/quote]
In fairness the subject interests me little and I’m no expert. However I am a human being and in my experience pinning this stuff on one person is far too simplistic.
It’s entirely plausible to me that JL was looking for something different and he found it and went with it. Had Yoko not been on the scene then it may have been someone else everyone is saying broke up the Beatles. Bands break up all the time for all kinds of reasons.
Yoko didn’t have magical powers and JL was a consenting adult - why don’t people say that he broke up the beatles?
My analogy of the relationship. When a married man walks out on his family for a new woman is she the ‘cause’ of the breakup? A factor maybe but I can guarantee he wasn’t happy in his relationship, he was bored, the new woman made him feel manly, homelife with the kids was too hard, he was flattered, he liked showing off the younger woman to his friends, his wife was a nagging bitch, it’s exciting etc etc… She didn’t break up the marriage, if it wasn’t her it may have been someone else in 6 months… [/quote]
It was of course both of them, but Yoko is very easy to hate because of her pretentious attempts at art.
I never really liked John Lennon much and I think he was a big phony.
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Help me out here Nards and others. I went to the Sydney Bienale Art Exhibition 4-5 years ago. Awesome. I genuinely loved it. Some great contemporary art exhibits. However in there was a ‘piece’ by Yoko.
It was a rotary style telephone on a plain plinth. The arty part was that apparently at anytime she may ring it from her home in the US and if you were standing near it you could answer it and talk to her.
I really hoped it rang while I was there but alas not. However I have spent years wondering what brilliant thing I could’ve said.
Wrong number.
Sorry I’m too busy looking at some actual art to talk
Fuck you.
YOu broke up the beatles!
Hello Yoko? Oh No it isn’t…
Who?
Pretty lame. There must be some kick ass one liner. have at it.
I’d play that recording of her screaming.
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[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
“My anus just bleeding all over Chavez’ chest” Hahah
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
“My anus just bleeding all over Chavez’ chest” Hahah[/quote]
I cried like a newborn child watching this.
