Damn Christians are at it Again...

[quote]ZEB wrote:
TheBodyGuard

My stalker, still stalks I see. It’s funny in that awfully long, time wasting diatribe that you posted you described yourself almost to the letter. Of course you did forget to do two things. First, you forgot to deny your hideous posts. Of course you can’t you wrote them. You are what you are and it isn’t very good. Secondly, and most importantly you posted no proof of your outlandish accusation. Funny how that works.

You wrote the following:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
DOES ANYONE WANT ME TO COVER HIS FELONY PAST AND THE WAY HE FOUND RELIGION? JUST ASK.[/quote]

Now my friend Mak stated that he wanted to see proof of this accusation. And when you’ve used this specific lie in the past to try to sully my name I too have challenged you to step forward and prove such an outrageous lie. But for all of your bluster (and typing in capitals) you just can’t seem to do it.

Tell me liar, do you subscribe to the theory that a lie repeated often enough will eventually be accepted as the truth? Well, I don’t think that you’re that lucky, at least not around here. T Nation folk of every political persuasion take a dim view of people who throw around such heavy accusations without following it up with proof.

And being as dumb as you are you forgot one important thing no one can prove a lie. You cannot create something where there is nothing. The facts are the facts. Whereas I can link every person on this site to your “how to” porno seminar for 20 something’s. And the thread where you insisted on finding the best way to chloroform and duck tape someone (that one is just creepy - like you). And I can link them to several threads where you played the bully and profanely beat down various females who dared call you out for crossing the line. But all you have is a big fat lie. Strange little corner you’ve painted yourself into.

So now is the time to post back with all of your proof of my “felony past”. Or, you can come forward and tell us all what a desperate individual you are and that you concocted this lie in order to attempt to drag my reputation down to the level of your own. But you won’t do this as that would take character and that is one trait (of many positives) that you don’t have.

I must say that I’ve had plenty of heated debates on this forum. But never, not once have I ever had an opponent who stooped to the level of creating such an outrageous lie. If you had not already seared your conscience from top to bottom with your obvious questionable lifestyle concocting such a lie would probably bother you. But being a liar falls directly into your life’s pattern it seems, so I’m sure it won’t keep you up at night. Perhaps knowing that everyone thinks your a liar and a sleeze might bother you? No, you’re probably used to that in your off line life.

So, now I ask you once again (is this the 3rd time?)to post your proof of these things. Don’t post back rattling off a list of nonsense that you cut and paste from other sites. “Zeb uses ad hominem attacks…um its’ all a logical fallacy I tell you…boo hoo”. Skip all your usual bluster and theatrics, everyone sees through your nonsense anyway, (you’ve underestimated the people at PWI). Go right to the part where you post proof of my nasty past -LOL.

I assure you that those who are eager to read such things will be most unforgiving toward you when you are unable to offer them up. You are truly your own worst enemy (but you know that). You’ve dug yourself a hole with your accusation and I will truly enjoy watching you try to dig yourself out.

What side show will you bring next when you are unable to offer up proof?

I just can’t wait to see.

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You know when you “jumped the shark” convict? When someone like me, who absolutely despises you, looks at your first two sentences, skims past the paragraphs to your closing and is absolutely disinterested.

I know this: I am what I am - genuine. I’m transparent. I’m the same here as in real life. People love me, and there are people that don’t prefer me and people are rarely in the middle. And that is evident on this very forum.

You however…self-proclaimed keeper of all that is moral and just, waiving the flag of Christianity at every chance…and yet there is NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE FOR SUCH CHRIST-LIKE ASPIRATIONS. Not one. You can take my posts and dissect them all you want. Have at it. But you cannot change the fact that you do not exhibit any redeeming qualities at all - all your blustery pulpit pounding aside. There is NO evidence for your Christianity in this forum.

YOU ARE A TYPICAL CHRISTIAN CHARLATAN. GOOD AT JUDGMENT. GOOD AT PULPIT POUNDING. PISS POOR AT WALKING THE WALK.

I also know your kids didn’t turn out so well either. I can see right thru your soul convict. Did the removal of prayer in school doom them? Or was it their rigid father? You’re like John Lithgow in Footloose. Now dance puppet. Do a cut and paste reply and throw in some more insults.

He asked for proof of your repeated accusations that he is a convict.

Where is it?

Enquiring minds want to know.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
He asked for proof of your repeated accusations that he is a convict.

Where is it?

Enquiring minds want to know.[/quote]

You don’t want to know any such thing. You’re his support team of one. Must be lonely.

Why don’t you post evidence of his Christianity. Please feel free to cull from any post the man has made. Show me any evidence. Any.

And I know much more about your forum buddy that you can imagine. I have a whole damn dossier on it. You boys be careful what you ask for. I doubt it would make it past the moderators.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
He asked for proof of your repeated accusations that he is a convict.

Where is it?

Enquiring minds want to know.[/quote]

Actually, I want to know about both - the porn AND the conviction.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
He asked for proof of your repeated accusations that he is a convict.

Where is it?

Enquiring minds want to know.[/quote]

You don’t want to know any such thing. You’re his support team of one. Must be lonely.

Why don’t you post evidence of his Christianity. Please feel free to cull from any post the man has made. Show me any evidence. Any.

And I know much more about your forum buddy that you can imagine. I have a whole damn dossier on it. You boys be careful what you ask for. I doubt it would make it past the moderators. [/quote]

He asked for it. If you don’t want to back up your accusations then don’t accuse.

If you don’t have it, then you are a liar. If you do have it, it’s pretty creepy that you’d become so obsessed with an internet poster that you’d go do actual real life snooping into his personal affairs. No matter what Zeb’s past is, your character is on full display here.

TheBodyGuard,

Just as I said would happen, no proof, as there is none to offer. You’ve just said more about yourself than I ever could.

You are a very sick man.

One good thing that came out of this is that people got to see you as you are, speaking your native language LIES. And if anyone did have respect for you, which I doubt, they certainly do not now.

[quote]Cortes wrote:<<< He asked for it. If you don’t want to back up your accusations then don’t accuse.

If you don’t have it, then you are a liar. If you do have it, it’s pretty creepy that you’d become so obsessed with an internet poster that you’d go do actual real life snooping into his personal affairs. No matter what Zeb’s past is, your character is on full display here. >>>[/quote]I gotta go along with this

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]squat junky wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]squat junky wrote:
Now I want you go back and think really hard how the United States of America became the greatest nation in the world. Was it by promoting homosexuality? Or, was it by having a strong Judeo/Christain base?

Are you serious? Your country didn’t become the greatest country in the world by having a strong Judeo/Christian base, it became the greatest country in the world a) through slavery b) through having an enormous wealth of primary resources, combined with a giant ever-expanding labour force of hard working immigrants, and c) through staying out of both world wars for as long as possible, while making astronomical profits from exporting manufactured goods (and, for the record, I am not shitting on America for doing so; I wouldn’t have wanted to get dragged into that shit either).

Your country was founded largely by a cadre of enlightened atheists, diests, and agnostics who favoured the separation of church and state. You should keep their vision alive by keeping the two separate. God has no place inside schools. Teach your kids Christian values at home, take them to church, but don’t force your internally incoherent fairy tales of my kids at school. They’re there to learn, not to be indoctrinated.

Lastly, you Christians have to lighten-up on the gays. Some people are born homosexual; that’s just reality. Get over it.[/quote]

Speaking of naivete…[/quote]

Naivete? Please elaborate.[/quote]

Simple. You simply don’t know your American history. Not going to respond to each individual error as there are too many. I know that will probably perturb you but I simply won’t take the time, as I have many times before here on PWI when I prolifically posted, to address them.

Not a copout as you may very well allege but I just am committed to budgeting my time on this forum. My total post count will testify that I have not budgeted well in the past.

Start sending me a monthly salary and I will consider schooling you and others in this regard.

Don’t mean to sound arrogant but I just aint a-gonna spend as much time here as I have in the past.[/quote]

Ya know there was a time when you were one of the happiest, most enjoyable posters on this forum. I was gone for a while, came back and you seemed angry all the time. So I can understand your desire not to get back to that.

However, it really doesn’t add anything to call other posters naive, tell them they’re wrong, but refuse to back it up, for whatever reason.

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
He asked for proof of your repeated accusations that he is a convict.

Where is it?

Enquiring minds want to know.[/quote]

You don’t want to know any such thing. You’re his support team of one. Must be lonely.

Why don’t you post evidence of his Christianity. Please feel free to cull from any post the man has made. Show me any evidence. Any.

And I know much more about your forum buddy that you can imagine. I have a whole damn dossier on it. You boys be careful what you ask for. I doubt it would make it past the moderators. [/quote]

He asked for it. If you don’t want to back up your accusations then don’t accuse.

If you don’t have it, then you are a liar. If you do have it, it’s pretty creepy that you’d become so obsessed with an internet poster that you’d go do actual real life snooping into his personal affairs. No matter what Zeb’s past is, your character is on full display here.
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You mean “obsessed” like taking tongue-in-cheek posts like the home porn one and trotting those out and claiming I was “teaching 20 year olds to make home porn”? Or how about my admission in a SAMA cheating thread that I had cheated prior, and he claims that “I had cheated on my WIFE multiple times”? Do you want me to continue? How about his veiled claims that I bully “t-vixens” when in fact I am usually dismissive of one or two that EXPLOIT themselves on the forums with the same immodesty that he preaches against? I can go on all day about your friend. He’s a dirty lying cocksucker.

When you post proof of his Christianity, I shall post my proof.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:<<< He asked for it. If you don’t want to back up your accusations then don’t accuse.

If you don’t have it, then you are a liar. If you do have it, it’s pretty creepy that you’d become so obsessed with an internet poster that you’d go do actual real life snooping into his personal affairs. No matter what Zeb’s past is, your character is on full display here. >>>[/quote]I gotta go along with this
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You can go with it. And you’d be ignoring his outright lies and exaggerations in these very forums. I’ll lay the challenge to you; post proof of his Christianity.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
He asked for proof of your repeated accusations that he is a convict.

Where is it?

Enquiring minds want to know.[/quote]

You don’t want to know any such thing. You’re his support team of one. Must be lonely.

Why don’t you post evidence of his Christianity. Please feel free to cull from any post the man has made. Show me any evidence. Any.

And I know much more about your forum buddy that you can imagine. I have a whole damn dossier on it. You boys be careful what you ask for. I doubt it would make it past the moderators. [/quote]

He asked for it. If you don’t want to back up your accusations then don’t accuse.

If you don’t have it, then you are a liar. If you do have it, it’s pretty creepy that you’d become so obsessed with an internet poster that you’d go do actual real life snooping into his personal affairs. No matter what Zeb’s past is, your character is on full display here.
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You mean “obsessed” like taking tongue-in-cheek posts like the home porn one and trotting those out and claiming I was “teaching 20 year olds to make home porn”? Or how about my admission in a SAMA cheating thread that I had cheated prior, and he claims that “I had cheated on my WIFE multiple times”? Do you want me to continue? How about his veiled claims that I bully “t-vixens” when in fact I am usually dismissive of one or two that EXPLOIT themselves on the forums with the same immodesty that he preaches against? I can go on all day about your friend. He’s a dirty lying cocksucker.

When you post proof of his Christianity, I shall post my proof. [/quote]

Yeah, I thought so.

TheBodyGuard,

Sure we understand, you were just kidding when you posted your multi point “How to make home porn” thread (Sex & Male Animal 12-31-10). And you were kidding when all the 20 something’s on that thread asked you questions about home porn and you answered them diligently and quite seriously. And you were just kidding again when you posted “Chloroform Question” thread (Sex & Male Animal 4-13-11) . Which was filled with things like the best way to duck tape someone after you’ve chloroformed them. If memory serves you were worried that duck tape might not hold, or something to that effect. And I can’t imagine what else is out there that you were just “kidding” about. I guess it’s hard to admit that you’re just a really bad guy.

The following claim is just one more piece of filth to add to your disgraceful collection.

[quote]TheBodyGuard Wrote:
DOES ANYONE WANT ME TO COVER HIS FELONY PAST AND THE WAY HE FOUND RELIGION? JUST ASK.[/quote]

That does say “just ask” Right? Well several people including myself have asked, but you are unable to deliver as promised. All we get are more lies and bluster but nothing whatsoever to prove such a wild allegation. I know that this is the Internet and you can make stuff up. But you went too far with this one.

Now you’re in a bit of a fix. On the one hand you’re not man enough to apologize and actually admit you made it up. And on the other hand since it is an out and out lie you cannot back it up. So, what do you do?

-Try to change the subject, point fingers, and create your usual crap storm.

But I have a feeling that it’s not going to work for you this time around. All your going to do this time is lose that tiny bit of credibility that you may have with just a few. As I warned you long ago the posters on PWI are intelligent. And you would not be able to fool them for long.

Even with your lack of intelligence and integrity you must be bright enough to realize how bad you’re looking right now. And with every ensuing post you just dig yourself in a deeper hole.

So, post back soon.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:<<< He asked for it. If you don’t want to back up your accusations then don’t accuse.

If you don’t have it, then you are a liar. If you do have it, it’s pretty creepy that you’d become so obsessed with an internet poster that you’d go do actual real life snooping into his personal affairs. No matter what Zeb’s past is, your character is on full display here. >>>[/quote]I gotta go along with this
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You can go with it. And you’d be ignoring his outright lies and exaggerations in these very forums. I’ll lay the challenge to you; post proof of his Christianity. [/quote]Look man. There is no such thing as anybody’s “proof” of Christianity. People have a testimony which consists of what they say and do. They claim salvation by His blood (in a nutshell) and the fruit of their life should be that they are learning to live for Him and display His holiness and love to a dying world, esteeming their representation of Him above al else. Nobody’s spoken testimony matches their living testimony flawlessly.

What I go along with, and this isn’t just for you and him, is if you are going to accuse somebody then bring the evidence or shaddup. If you acctually do have some sort of “dossier” on sombody’s (anybody’s) offline life than that is far more disturbing than if Zeb says some things here and there that make me wince. Rereading some of my own posts also makes me wince. I have found you in our exchanges to be a generally worthwhile engagement. I’m pretty sure Zeb’s accusations about your pornographic perversions are true, but that’s not shocking in a life without Christ. My BC history is not pretty either.

It would be disappointing if you were to document your accusations. Would that prove to me he’s a godless heathen? Not necessarily. How he responded to the exposure of his sin and hypocrisy would be quite telling though. Christians sin and they can do it in grotesque spectacular fashion. What they can’t do is live in perpetual ongoing denial of and rebellion to the revealed will of God. You being what he says changes nothing for me. Him being what you say might. So where is it? Not that I really wanna see, but IF it’s true then a public flogging at the hands of someone like you just might be the tool God uses to bring his son into subjection and repentance. So once again. Show us or shaddup.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
BG, you dun gone too far with this Zeb deal. Shut it down, friend, shut it down.[/quote]

Agreed, I just unblocked BG to see what he said. Total bullshit, BG! I think you finally came off your rocker old man.

Accusing someone of false things that you have no proof of? I’m guessing it has something to do with using chloroform on yourself, but it is still uncalled for completely.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
TheBodyGuard,

Sure we understand, you were just kidding when you posted your multi point “How to make home porn” thread (Sex & Male Animal 12-31-10). And you were kidding when all the 20 something’s on that thread asked you questions about home porn and you answered them diligently and quite seriously. And you were just kidding again when you posted “Chloroform Question” thread (Sex & Male Animal 4-13-11) . Which was filled with things like the best way to duck tape someone after you’ve chloroformed them. If memory serves you were worried that duck tape might not hold, or something to that effect. And I can’t imagine what else is out there that you were just “kidding” about. I guess it’s hard to admit that you’re just a really bad guy.

The following claim is just one more piece of filth to add to your disgraceful collection.

[quote]TheBodyGuard Wrote:
DOES ANYONE WANT ME TO COVER HIS FELONY PAST AND THE WAY HE FOUND RELIGION? JUST ASK.[/quote]

That does say “just ask” Right? Well several people including myself have asked, but you are unable to deliver as promised. All we get are more lies and bluster but nothing whatsoever to prove such a wild allegation. I know that this is the Internet and you can make stuff up. But you went too far with this one.

Now you’re in a bit of a fix. On the one hand you’re not man enough to apologize and actually admit you made it up. And on the other hand since it is an out and out lie you cannot back it up. So, what do you do?

-Try to change the subject, point fingers, and create your usual crap storm.

But I have a feeling that it’s not going to work for you this time around. All your going to do this time is lose that tiny bit of credibility that you may have with just a few. As I warned you long ago the posters on PWI are intelligent. And you would not be able to fool them for long.

Even with your lack of intelligence and integrity you must be bright enough to realize how bad you’re looking right now. And with every ensuing post you just dig yourself in a deeper hole.

So, post back soon.[/quote]

Yeah, because a post on a public forum about chloroform, and all the replies that followed, are serious. You’re a dimwit so I’m not surprised at your summation. Idiot.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
BG, you dun gone too far with this Zeb deal. Shut it down, friend, shut it down.[/quote]

You’re right. I’m not wallowing in the mud with him anymore. I gave him a taste of his dishonest medicine and slander. No way to wrestle with a stinking filthy pig and not get muddy.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
BG, you dun gone too far with this Zeb deal. Shut it down, friend, shut it down.[/quote]

Agreed, I just unblocked BG to see what he said. Total bullshit, BG! I think you finally came off your rocker old man.

Accusing someone of false things that you have no proof of? I’m guessing it has something to do with using chloroform on yourself, but it is still uncalled for completely.[/quote]

Unblocked me? LOL dude for real, make sure you’re getting enough E-blockers on your cycle. LOL. Blocking. Wow.

When you become an unbiased pillar for truth, let me know. Meanwhile, that cowardly cocksucker as misrepresented that I cheated on my ex-wife, took the porn thread out of context (it is SAMA), is being utterly ridiculous with the humorous chloroform post, has mentioned my children, attacks everyone and anyone that doesn’t agree with him, and has lied and cherry picked so much, I can’t even remember all the shit. When you call him on that, wake me the fuck up Christian. Anyway, having to humor the likes of him over the internet, knowing good and damn well the little cocksucker would be a respectful little citizen in the real world, definitely brings the worst out in me. I’m done with him. As for you, you’re typically misguided, despite your proclamations of moral high ground. You’re only troubled when one of your fellow hypocrites is under attack, but blind when he’s doing the dirt.

So is this thread still about the OP? That was interesting…