Hello All,
New user, information and reads have been very insightful! Just as a little background, I’m a 29 year old, father of one and happily married. Looking to get into the “pharma” world you will.
I would like to get on testosterone as a starter but my understanding is you shouldn’t “cycle” T and it should be a life long investment. Opinions on this? Advice? Much appreciated.
More info would be better here.
Why do you want to take test?
What are your goals?
What does current physique loo like?
What does diet/training look like?
Any bloodwork to share?
Apologies, yes, currently cutting due to recent “fatty liver” dx. Looking to help with overall weight movement, preventing muscle wasting during cuts, and age hypo prevention. History of powerlifting, blood work (plan to get self checked, out of pocket) before starting anything. Current physique 187lbs at 19% body fat. Goals is mass assistant with primarily natural build, meaning no stacking. 12% BF is the plan, lowest I’ve been is 13% so I kind of have an idea of how to drop to that it’s just sustaining mass at that level.
Would it in my situation be worth it? Thank you!
Lower your body fat percentage first something like Retatrutide(peptide) will help you significantly to avoid food noise, lose weight, and also maintain muscle. 1 shot at 1mg a week works well and then you slowly increase the dosage every 2-4 weeks until your at a dosage that works for you. Next before you start TRT get blood work to see your testosterone baselines and have your liver, pancreas, and kidneys functions checked just for reference for the future. Once your ready to hop on get some TEST E which would be ideal. Pin every other day at 150mg a week. Stay on this for two months retest blood work to see where you are at and how well your body responds. Remember to ultimately donate blood and watch out for estrogen increase itchy nips, bloating, mood swings.
Steroids are for building muscle. As far as muscle loss your nowhere near lean enough to be worried.
Get hormone profile checked to see where you are naturally.
At 29 years of age, I highly doubt you have low testosterone, but you may. If you were looking to start TRT because you feel you have low testosterone symptoms that I recommend making your appointment and getting your labs done through Defy medical. Worst case scenario they don’t put you onto testosterone, but at least you have a baseline and the doctors can assess any of your out of range bio markers.
Now, if you want to use steroids, that’s a completely different topic. It’s much easier and more effective to use steroids if you run a TRT baseline between cycles. However, it doesn’t sound like you have the knowledge to do so on your own so again I would recommend starting with Defy first. You can run a solo cycle of testosterone in the moderate dose, but much of what you gained will be lost during your PCT which is an acronym for post cycle therapy.
I should add that I hate the thought of cycling and PCT. I wanna say that from experience because it was horrible when I did it when I was much younger. You go from an anabolic state to a catabolic state very quickly. It messes with your mind as well. I’m definitely against a one and done cycle as typically it’s fruitless.
This helps a lot, perspective is huge! Understanding the risk versus reward from people who have done it, do I want to grind to natural potential, absolutely, do I know test as being the building block beyond natural, yes. Simply asking could it be used to push me beyond my natural limit by cycling? Seems like not the way to go.
Steroids are definitely something I don’t know about, I know a few of my hospital friends who have dabbled, but as for guidance, there is none nor does there seem to be a motivation for them. Im never going on stage.
Thank you 
Total agreement, especially on not pct’ing. PCT was thought to be a “healthy” thing to do and that may actually have been the case back in the days when we had no access to bloodwork, less understanding of how to mitigate sides on cycle with nutrition, supplementation and preventive meds, etc.
What really happens is you make your health worse while trying to recover your HPTA, just stay on trt levels and bridge.
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