This is my planned cycle and i have all so far
AAS:
Weeks 1-4: SD 20/30/30/30
Weeks 8-14: Havoc 20/30/40/40/40/40
Weeks 1-12: Test E 500mg/week Monday Thursday pins
PCT:
Weeks 14-20: torem 120/90/60/30/30/30
Weeks 14-20: Nolva 20/20/20/10/10/10
Ancillaries:
Weeks 1-12: Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
my main question is i have been wanting to run Weeks 2-12: HCG 250iu E4D, but have been unable to source some. so i want to know who has run with or without HCG and how much differance in recovery and shutdown did you find. i am close to where my goal body is so i am hoping to do 1 and only 1 cycle is the forceable future and hold the gains naturally. so i am leaning towards waiting out a source.
just wanted some outside opinion thanks
I personally wouldn’t cycle without it, but lots of people do and recovery just fine. If you are concerned about testicle size on cycle than 50mg of clomid eod is the way the old timers did it before hCG became available.
Also, your PCT looks kinda weird. Why not just do the usual 4 weeks of Nolva at 40/40/20/20 and clomid at 50/50/50/50?
And I know you probably really do believe you’ll only do one cycle, but you won’t. That’s what I thought too but once you’ve been on once. you’ll definitely go back.
Torem instead of clomid mainly due to i have 2 bottles of torem on hand atm so chose to go with that instead, should i change to clomid.
a nolva PCT of 40/40/20/20 will be fine
you should still try and get some hCG
Im always amazed at how easily people seem to score the “meat and potato” compouds of their cycles, even the ones that have no approved FDA use such as Tren, etc…but are somehow unable to come up with the “veggies” like hcg, AI, and SERM, which all have approved medical uses and are readily available everywhere…
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Im always amazed at how easily people seem to score the “meat and potato” compouds of their cycles, even the ones that have no approved FDA use such as Tren, etc…but are somehow unable to come up with the “veggies” like hcg, AI, and SERM, which all have approved medical uses and are readily available everywhere…
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yeahI reckon it’s because they’re not worth that much, so nobody tries to push them on the noobs. I hear about guys getting offered gear in gyms all the time, but no one ever sidles up to them and says “Hey bro, wanna buy some clomid?”
The guy I get my gear off actually does it deliberately, then when the noobs phone him up in a panic looking for AIs because they’ve grown tits or whatever he can charge them triple what he would normally do. He says it’s because he’s “literally got them by the baws”.
Your “guy” sounds like a real shitbag
yup, he’s a shitbag all right.
cheap gear though