The dark line is the circulating blood levels of my last cycle (See the Lean Mass Stack thread for details).
The lighter (alright, pink) line is my next cycle. I really tweaked dosages and played with the esters to ensure a nice, even, sustained level of circulating androgens throughout the cycle. Hopefully this will provide even better results and steady growth throughout the cycle. Notice also that levels drop faster post cycle to facilate quicker recovery.
I’ll post the actual stack later.
Oh, and in case you can’t read the graph the X axis shows “weeks,” and the Y axis shows the mgs of active, circulating, AAS.
horse- I don’t understand your way of posting the cycle, partly because I am retarded and caveman-like, second because it is a new way. Its the d-bol shit I don’t understand, BUT you said 25 mgs a day…that sounds perfect to me for the D-bol addition.
I would just drop the fuckin anavar. Why you ask? well it is usually used to maintain weight but increase strength. You are clearly gaining weight with teh other 3 aas. Also why waste money on something so expensive, with so little return. I can see it in your last “conservative cycle” but not with D-bol and Test bro.
My suggestion, just from researh, since your TEST levels will be supressed and if you really want a 4th drug in there…add tren. Just my 2 cc’s. I just don’t see anavar fitting in this cycle. just eq/test/d-bol would be fuckin sweet I think…but if you want strength, no edema, quality mass…fuck anavar…Go tren…
Yeah, weeks 3 and 4 are right, I’ll probably just take the Dbol on the days I work out.
The Anavar is in there for the collagen synthesis aspect more than anything (see AAS & Tendon Health thread for more info). Yeah, I’ve got EQ, but I guess I’m pretty paranoid about getting pec tears and joint injuries.
Besides, I like Anavar, Anavar is my friend.
I’m in this for the long run and the best way to run long is to not accumulate injuries along the way.
If too many orals are a concern and you’re going to drop dbol that low in weeks 3&4 why not skip it all together, give your liver a 2 week break. Maybe bump up something else a lil bit.
just looks too lite to me. maybe i am just old school that way. i am a believer in heavy doses, heavy weights, and big gains. even for a cutting cycle some of those weekly dosages are extremely low. like this is my first cycle low. i am from the school of thought that consistent dosing creates consistent chemical levels which generates consistent performance. looks like reinventing the wheel to me.
Anything is too low for you Drago1! Cripe, if I doubled the dosage you’d still give me crap - LOL!
We both know doubling the dose doesn’t double the gains. We just approach cycles differently and that’s fine with me. I respect your advice and opinion.
you have a point. i favor heavier dosages. but, seriously bro. 50mgs of dbol for a week? 300mgs of test enan and eq for an entire week? i just dont see the logic in dosages that low. it will take 3 cycles like that to do what i do in one. and is it really better to expose your body to lower doses of steroids but need longer exposure time then it is to run higher doses for less exposure time?
I think the dosages a person responds to, is to a large degree, an individual thing. I seem to respond well to lower doses. Once I’ve run my first 100 cycles like you have I may need to up the dose, but for now, I can get the gains I want off ~800mg/wk so why go up?
My other point would be the fact I continually reiterate about the doses of old pros and the doses laid out in W. (Bill) Phillips Anabolic Reference Guide or whatever it’s called. Those cycles and the results (of real people)are all in there.
I know, the low Dbol dose seems pretty silly, but I just wanted to see how flat a curve I could get. Maybe I’ll just take a break from it that week or up it - won’t know 'til I get there.
well good luck bro. keep us posted. for the record i am not even close to 100 cycles, thank god. and as for the dosages that the old pro’s used. i have read alot of that as well and find most of it highly suspect. i mean it is only human nature to want to say that all of the things we do is all by ourselves or with as little help as possible. rather then say, yeah i needed a truckload of juice to look like this. but of course i am only stating opinion and none of us can ever really conclude anything. as far as dosages i agree to a point. you may have the genetics of a greek god and mine maybe more like a slug. i dont know. my point is only that reguardless of genetics, nobody will get the body of arnold on the dosages of a newbie running his first cycle.
