Cursing in Movies and Children

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[quote]The Savage wrote:
Sen say believe it or not that would be pretty close to what childhood was like for me. My parents did not finish HS and were from the “poor” side of town, I wonder if you’re form the poor part swearing is some form of empowerment?.. Using the F bomb in between every other word was normal to me until when I was in 5th grade math class… TS (The Savage)

TS: … murmurs to himself… "I don’t f… get it?
Teach: Pardon me TS?
TS: now frustrated “I don’t fucking get it, what the fuck am I suppose to do again?”
Teach: “Go to the principal’s office young man, this moment!”
TS: “Shit! I didn’t anyfuckingthing!”
Teach: “That’s enough and I won’t tolerate anymore cursing, now move it!”

TS gets to the principal’s office waiting… Principal tells him to come in. Principal informs TS that he is going to call his father now and let him know what happened in class today.
TS: Says to under his breath to himself “I’d like to fucking know too.”

Principal contacts father and explains what TS said in class, turns red and then hangs up the phone. Principal then tells me to return to class and to never use the f word again as it makes me sound ignorant.

I discovered over the course of my school life what other words you shouldn’t say…

When I got home that day I asked my Dad what he said.

Principal:“Mr. TS I want to inform you that your son cursed in class today.”
Dad: “What do you mean? He cursed at the teacher?”
Principal: “Not exactly, he was having difficulty with a lesson and cursed.”
Dad: “Did the teacher find out what he was having problems with?”
Principal: “Well no, not yet because he is in my office now…”
Dad: Interrupts the conversation…“FUCK! You call me at work for some shit like this? So you’re telling me he still doesn’t fucking understand the lesson? Jesus Christ I have work to do here, fuck deal with it! Call me with some fucking emergency next time!”
Principal: â??Thank you I’ll speak with your son"

So growing up with dumbass parents I still realized that cursing is not “The” form of communication and I have to tell you sometimes when I’m at meetings and discussions get heated I have to literally think of what I want to say to remain professional. Fuck! My parents screwed me on this and yes when my kids were young they would swear around them all the time even if I asked them not too. My wife rarely swears her parents swore maybe once or twice since I’ve known them. My daughter doesn’t swear she finds it an ignorant form of communication, however my son will throw around the odd curse word however it is not a habit though.[/quote]

Do not worry about it. I was raised to not cuss around women and children. However otherwise, all bets off. I did the same thing when I was in school, and your dad makes more sense than you think. I do not know how many times my dad told my assistant principle to not call him again unless it was an emergency. Yeah, cussing doesn’t always seem the most genius way of speaking, but I have heard more people that are brilliant with a dirty mouth than I have with people pretending to be civilised do. Anybody can learn a vocabulary without cuss words, but someone who can cuss intelligently and use it correctly is much more impressive.

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[quote]Mr.Purple wrote:
Good on your dad for telling that principal to fuck off. lol

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QFT.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

Do not worry about it. I was raised to not cuss around women and children. However otherwise, all bets off. I did the same thing when I was in school, and your dad makes more sense than you think. I do not know how many times my dad told my assistant principle to not call him again unless it was an emergency. Yeah, cussing doesn’t always seem the most genius way of speaking, but I have heard more people that are brilliant with a dirty mouth than I have with people pretending to be civilised do. Anybody can learn a vocabulary without cuss words, but someone who can cuss intelligently and use it correctly is much more impressive.

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Fuck, yes.

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Cursing is trashy and I don’t want my kid to be trashy.

As far as cursing in movies, I realy don’t care. I would prefer not to hear completely vulgar language throughout a movie but hearing a couple curse words in a movie doesn’t bother me.

I’m personally not going to take my kid to R rated movies and probably not PG 13 movies for quite a while.

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Why should you care how other people choose to raise their children? I don’t have any kids, but I have a brother 11 years younger than me and I don’t curse in front of him. It’s crass and uncouth to swear aloud in public. Now these are all social constructions, but that’s another argument all together. And BTW, Black Label Society rocks my socks.

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[quote]Therizza wrote:
Why should you care how other people choose to raise their children? I don’t have any kids, but I have a brother 11 years younger than me and I don’t curse in front of him. It’s crass and uncouth to swear aloud in public. Now these are all social constructions, but that’s another argument all together. And BTW, Black Label Society rocks my socks.[/quote]

More power to parents that want to overprotect their kids from any and all badness in the world. But, I guarantee they’re going to hear these words in school or elsewhere. Just seems silly to me, to not let your kids watch a movie like The Goonies or Transformers because of some bad cussing. Now, something like Scarface? ok, maybe that is different.

Hell, my fiance’s parents wouldn’t let her watch The Simpsons growing up, come on man! There are so many references with the Simpsons that I have to explain, fuckin annoying I tell ya :wink:

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Therizza wrote:
Why should you care how other people choose to raise their children? I don’t have any kids, but I have a brother 11 years younger than me and I don’t curse in front of him. It’s crass and uncouth to swear aloud in public. Now these are all social constructions, but that’s another argument all together. And BTW, Black Label Society rocks my socks.

More power to parents that want to overprotect their kids from any and all badness in the world. But, I guarantee they’re going to hear these words in school or elsewhere. Just seems silly to me, to not let your kids watch a movie like The Goonies or Transformers because of some bad cussing. Now, something like Scarface? ok, maybe that is different.

Hell, my fiance’s parents wouldn’t let her watch The Simpsons growing up, come on man! There are so many references with the Simpsons that I have to explain, fuckin annoying I tell ya ;)[/quote]

I do believe the idea is that if parents let their kids watch these shows because they already know/hear the words from/at school, then they (the parents) are giving away a perception of what is acceptable in regard to the language, and perception is different than a parent simply saying something like “don’t swear”. Children are very perception oriented, they function by observation more than instruction.

Sort of like, if a kid is constantly being told by his parents not to eat crap food, but they (the parents) unabashedly expose him to a world with uninhibited crappy food consumption, no matter what the child is told, the perception of what is normal and acceptable is set at the default of ‘uninhibited’.

I know I could have just explained that better, but I’m on pain meds. Also, I wrote all of the above about 40 minutes ago, and then a storm blasted past the house and a funnel formed above the field about 150 yards from here, and it was absolutely awesome. Nature rocks.

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I think people that don’t have kids that post about how to raise kids or criticize how people raise kids is magnitudes more douchey and annoying than people who don’t train that post on a bodybuilding site.

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[quote]Squiggles wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
Therizza wrote:
Why should you care how other people choose to raise their children? I don’t have any kids, but I have a brother 11 years younger than me and I don’t curse in front of him. It’s crass and uncouth to swear aloud in public. Now these are all social constructions, but that’s another argument all together. And BTW, Black Label Society rocks my socks.

More power to parents that want to overprotect their kids from any and all badness in the world. But, I guarantee they’re going to hear these words in school or elsewhere. Just seems silly to me, to not let your kids watch a movie like The Goonies or Transformers because of some bad cussing. Now, something like Scarface? ok, maybe that is different.

Hell, my fiance’s parents wouldn’t let her watch The Simpsons growing up, come on man! There are so many references with the Simpsons that I have to explain, fuckin annoying I tell ya :wink:

I do believe the idea is that if parents let their kids watch these shows because they already know/hear the words from/at school, then they (the parents) are giving away a perception of what is acceptable in regard to the language, and perception is different than a parent simply saying something like “don’t swear”. Children are very perception oriented, they function by observation more than instruction.

Sort of like, if a kid is constantly being told by his parents not to eat crap food, but they (the parents) unabashedly expose him to a world with uninhibited crappy food consumption, no matter what the child is told, the perception of what is normal and acceptable is set at the default of ‘uninhibited’.

I know I could have just explained that better, but I’m on pain meds. Also, I wrote all of the above about 40 minutes ago, and then a storm blasted past the house and a funnel formed above the field about 150 yards from here, and it was absolutely awesome. Nature rocks. [/quote]

It’s called a tornado.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I think people that don’t have kids that post about how to raise kids or criticize how people raise kids is magnitudes more douchey and annoying than people who don’t train that post on a bodybuilding site.[/quote]

Word, up. I wasn’t exposed to curse words until I was deathly afraid of saying one.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Hell, my fiance’s parents wouldn’t let her watch The Simpsons growing up, come on man! There are so many references with the Simpsons that I have to explain, fuckin annoying I tell ya ;)[/quote]

The best part about The Simpsons is watching it as a kid and laughing at the funny cartoon people… then growing up, watching it all over again, and laughing harder because you “get” the real genius of the early/middle episodes.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I think people that don’t have kids that post about how to raise kids or criticize how people raise kids is magnitudes more douchey and annoying than people who don’t train that post on a bodybuilding site.[/quote]

fuck sake, lighten up guitar man

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How about watching some old Looney Toons and seeing all the blatant racism in that. I love it!

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[quote]Therizza wrote:
How about watching some old Looney Toons and seeing all the blatant racism in that. I love it![/quote]

Or watching Disney movies and looking forward to the scenes with the monkeys or crows cause you just know they’s getting ready to ‘black it up’ and we’s gwoan has us a good, soulful tune stead of that cracker ass shit the gay bear and poncey leopard been singing all thru the film.