Culturally Fat

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
How is this not obvious? Yeah, SOME people have serious insulin problems and therefore have a very hard time not being fat. The VAST MAJORITY of people, and I daresay the majority of obese people, DO NOT have that problem. It’s not coincidence that most fat people eat like crap, and lots of it. Friend of mine claims he can’t lose weight…claims he eats healthy…says he exercises hours per week, etc etc.

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Is that so?

Then please research the numbers when it comes to American insulin resistance and dianetes and get back to me.

I am very interested in the “overwhelming majority” part once you have actually looked at the numbers.

Hint: um, you are kind of wrong mate.

[quote]Swolegasm wrote:
http://chaosandpain.blogspot.ie/2012/06/your-fat-is-unequivocally-your-fault.html[/quote]

I am not even mad.

Instead I welcome this blatant demonstration of how obesity is seen in large parts of society and I am glad this poster you referenced could never get fat because of food allergies, hormones and other namby bamby stuff like this because his WILL IS STRONG, LIKE THOR THE GOD OF THUNDER.

Meanwhile, grownups will continue to search for real world solutions that work for real people.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
tons of people have insulin problems, and while they eat like crap, it’s the crap food that causes the insulin problem.

I’m not saying I buy this whole theory, but I tell ya, it makes some pretty good sense and is worth entertaining the idea. I at least think to blame this on the person is flawed. Again, there are some lazy people out there that eat like crap.

There are also a ton of people that exercise regularly, try to “eat healthy” and struggle to lose the weight.[/quote]

What don’t you buy? It’s well-documented that food choice affects insulin sensitivy as does excess body fat. Access body fat as a result of poor diet hurts the body’s insulin sensitivity, encourgaing more fat gain. A snowball effect.

[quote]jsbrook wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
tons of people have insulin problems, and while they eat like crap, it’s the crap food that causes the insulin problem.

I’m not saying I buy this whole theory, but I tell ya, it makes some pretty good sense and is worth entertaining the idea. I at least think to blame this on the person is flawed. Again, there are some lazy people out there that eat like crap.

There are also a ton of people that exercise regularly, try to “eat healthy” and struggle to lose the weight.[/quote]

What don’t you buy? It’s well-documented that food choice affects insulin sensitivy as does excess body fat. Access body fat as a result of poor diet hurts the body’s insulin sensitivity, encourgaing more fat gain. A snowball effect. [/quote]

Not in all people.

I seem to know a woman that is on an all carbs diet that is not able to gain weight.

It is next to impossible to sleep next to her because she radiates heat all night.

Of course, her ancestors had a solid 5000 year advantage over mine when it comes to the introduction of agriculture and it kind of shows.

Does everyone in Austria have genetics like Arnold or are there fat people there too?

Arnold’s gotten pretty fat in recent years.

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Does everyone in Austria have genetics like Arnold or are there fat people there too?[/quote]

Dunno.

I had one American comment that it has to be genetics because we were all built like trucks.

To the fat part, yes, but not like US fat.

If you compare our supermarkets to yours there might be a few hints in there why.

I liked it when Berardi pointed out that Europeans shops 2-3 TIMES A WEEK.

Duh, REAL FOOD SPOILS if you do not use it.

Yours will be dug up by future archaeologists and still be perfectly edible, if you want to call it that.

The symbol of 21 century America will be the Twinkie.

[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:
Arnold’s gotten pretty fat in recent years. [/quote]

I blame the Standard American Diet.

SAD, if you would care to abbreviate it.

and this by no means a knock, but take out the AAS and an aging man that doesn’t spend near the same amount of time lifting weights as he used too, you’ve got a recipe for changes in body comp.

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I like small white women.

All that bullemia kills their gag reflex. [/quote]

I’m going to hell for laughing at this.

America IS culturally fat. Fat is acceptable here. Period.

Is it “more acceptable” culturally for blacks? IDK, but there seems to be evidence for that.

Personally, moving back to America I am constantly shocked at not only the sheer numbers of obese people, but at the number of obese women. I don’t know if it is just an issue with who I’m “seeing” or “noticing” but women REALLY let themselves go these days. Over 40 it seems MANY women weigh more than their husbands!

People don’t mention it, don’t get on others for it, don’t care about it.

Personally, I got overweight this last year or two. My wife tells me about it EVERY DAY. Her message is a simple one: Yeah, we went through some stuff and you got a little big…that’s fine. STAYING big is NOT fine. We’re doing better now, honey, lose the extra weight. She is not American.

IMO we need to change our culture. I’m going to start by saying, “Boy you gained a lot of weight this year!” to more people and losing my own fat.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Does everyone in Austria have genetics like Arnold or are there fat people there too?[/quote]

Dunno.

I had one American comment that it has to be genetics because we were all built like trucks.

To the fat part, yes, but not like US fat.

If you compare our supermarkets to yours there might be a few hints in there why.

I liked it when Berardi pointed out that Europeans shops 2-3 TIMES A WEEK.

Duh, REAL FOOD SPOILS if you do not use it.

Yours will be dug up by future archaeologists and still be perfectly edible, if you want to call it that.

The symbol of 21 century America will be the Twinkie.

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So what you’re saying is that Europeans lack adequate refrigeration space then.[/quote]

Yes, our dabbling in socialism has left us deprived of refrigerators and cupboards.