Okay basically this is in the first stage of preparation but im a little lost on what to do with a few things that ill get into after i propose the cycle.
Weeks 1-14 Sustanon 500mg/week
Thats what i know as of now as a staple now what im concerned with is the Dianabol and Trenbolone ill be using.
I want to do each for 6 weeks and dont know if i should run it like this:
Weeks 1-6 30 mg Dianabol ED
Weeks 8-14 300 Mg/week Trenbolone
Or no gap at all and starting the Trenbolone right after the Dianabol until the 12th week or should i switch what im thinking and do the Trenbolone first and the Dianabol second with the same situation of having the gap or not.
And of course i will have:
.25 mg Arimidex EOD
PCT with Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
I will also have HCG for mid cycle and at the end of the cycle 250 IU EOD for 2 weeks each time.
A few questions:
Is there a need to taper off of the Sustanon?
Should I use a higher dose of Arimidex?
Remember guys this is just a rough draft which is why im seeking advice from the vets.
Thank you
Is this your first second or third cycle?
14 weeks is a bit longer than most first or second cycles.
What’s the rest of you like? Meaning height, weight, training experience, training goals, etc.
Without any answers to these questions and speaking as someone who is NOT a fan of Sust I’d maybe steer you towards a higher weekly dose of the Sust for a shorter weekly duration. So instead of 500wk for 14 something like 700wk for 10 shooting from the hip.
There is a tremendous synergy between dbol, tren and test when used concurrently. Again this kinda depends on your training/physique goals. But if you ran your test high enough for only 10 weeks I’d steer you towards starting tren around week 3 or so if you only have a six week supply and then you could run your dbol anytime after that. Some guys like to kick start with dbol. I prefer to hit it when you have all your other compounds in full effect.
Is there a need to taper off the Sust? Well if you’re using the Nolva method for four weeks as PCT not so much. Besides its incredibly hard to taper off with a multi-ester product like Sust. I would not do it [of course I would not run Sust at all but thats maybe not an option for you.
Should you dose A-dex higher? For better or worse you dont know till you try. 700mg of Test a week requires some AI, using dbol does as well. How much is an individual thing. Just adjust as needed .25mg EOD is a fair enough starting point
[quote]saps wrote:
Is this your first second or third cycle?
14 weeks is a bit longer than most first or second cycles.
What’s the rest of you like? Meaning height, weight, training experience, training goals, etc.
Without any answers to these questions and speaking as someone who is NOT a fan of Sust I’d maybe steer you towards a higher weekly dose of the Sust for a shorter weekly duration. So instead of 500wk for 14 something like 700wk for 10 shooting from the hip.
There is a tremendous synergy between dbol, tren and test when used concurrently. Again this kinda depends on your training/physique goals. But if you ran your test high enough for only 10 weeks I’d steer you towards starting tren around week 3 or so if you only have a six week supply and then you could run your dbol anytime after that. Some guys like to kick start with dbol. I prefer to hit it when you have all your other compounds in full effect.
Is there a need to taper off the Sust? Well if you’re using the Nolva method for four weeks as PCT not so much. Besides its incredibly hard to taper off with a multi-ester product like Sust. I would not do it [of course I would not run Sust at all but thats maybe not an option for you.
Should you dose A-dex higher? For better or worse you dont know till you try. 700mg of Test a week requires some AI, using dbol does as well. How much is an individual thing. Just adjust as needed .25mg EOD is a fair enough starting point[/quote]
Second cycle, 5’9, 210, 6 years training, compete eventually.
My first cycle was a Test Cyp/Deca cycle. Got a bunch of help here and got awesome results and came off beautifully.
Second cycle, 5’9, 210, 6 years training, compete eventually.
My first cycle was a Test Cyp/Deca cycle. Got a bunch of help here and got awesome results and came off beautifully.
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Ok then my advice still stands pretty much as is. The notion of taking all your dbol at once is a bit more of a PL thing than a BB thing but its quite effective. I’ll let you figure out your own dbol protocol. But yeah run a bit higher dose and just less total weeks
Second cycle, 5’9, 210, 6 years training, compete eventually.
My first cycle was a Test Cyp/Deca cycle. Got a bunch of help here and got awesome results and came off beautifully.
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Ok then my advice still stands pretty much as is. The notion of taking all your dbol at once is a bit more of a PL thing than a BB thing but its quite effective. I’ll let you figure out your own dbol protocol. But yeah run a bit higher dose and just less total weeks[/quote]
dont mean to hijack, but what would be better to do for a BB standpoint with the dbol? would u split it up 2-3 weeks beginning and another 2-3 weeks at end of cycle?
[quote]meatandfish101 wrote:
dont mean to hijack, but what would be better to do for a BB standpoint with the dbol? would u split it up 2-3 weeks beginning and another 2-3 weeks at end of cycle?[/quote]
Most BB use dbol throughout the day rather than a single mega dose before training. Although slowly some BB’s are coming my/our way