Week 1-10 Test E 500mg e/w
Week 1-10 Trenbolone 150mg e/w
Week 9-13 Turanabol 40mg e/d
Week 1-13 Adex .5mg eod
Week 14-15 Clomid 100mg e/d
Week 16 Clomid 50mg e/d
Week 16-17 40mg nolva e/d
This will be my third cycle, going for a good clean bulk. You guys think my pct is too agressive? Any comments/suggestions always welcome. Thanks in advance
Dezz
[quote]Dezz wrote:
Week 1-10 Test E 500mg e/w
Week 1-10 Trenbolone 150mg e/w
Week 9-13 Turanabol 40mg e/d
Week 1-13 Adex .5mg eod
Week 14-15 Clomid 100mg e/d
Week 16 Clomid 50mg e/d
Week 16-17 40mg nolva e/d
This will be my third cycle, going for a good clean bulk. You guys think my pct is too agressive? Any comments/suggestions always welcome. Thanks in advance
Dezz[/quote]
looks well laid out. some would choose to run the adex a little longer, but that is splitting hairs.
also, i nominate you for some TC points, lets say 5. i don’t know what they are, i don’t know how to get them or what they are good for, but nonetheless 5.
[quote]Dezz wrote:
Week 1-10 Test E 500mg e/w
Week 1-10 Trenbolone 150mg e/w
Week 9-13 Turanabol 40mg e/d
Week 1-13 Adex .5mg eod
Week 14-15 Clomid 100mg e/d
Week 16 Clomid 50mg e/d
Week 16-17 40mg nolva e/d
This will be my third cycle, going for a good clean bulk. You guys think my pct is too agressive? Any comments/suggestions always welcome. Thanks in advance
Dezz[/quote]
Looks pretty good to me except you might increase the tren to 300 - 350mg/week. I assume that is tren E.
What is your injection frequency?
tren dose needs to be upped as RJ said. The rest looks decent.
Ive decided to give tren ace a try instead and will be upping the dosage as suggested. 75mg eod, weeks 1-10
This would equal about 300mg e/w and 225 every alternating week. thanks for the assistance fellas. any other input is welcome
Dezz
[quote]Dezz wrote:
Week 1-10 Test E 500mg e/w
Week 1-10 Trenbolone 150mg e/w
Week 9-13 Turanabol 40mg e/d
Week 1-13 Adex .5mg eod
Week 14-15 Clomid 100mg e/d
Week 16 Clomid 50mg e/d
Week 16-17 40mg nolva e/d
This will be my third cycle, going for a good clean bulk. You guys think my pct is too agressive? Any comments/suggestions always welcome. Thanks in advance
Dezz[/quote]
sorry to hijack, do you guys think this cycle would be too aggressive for a first timer? i have been building my knowledge base on gear up over the last couple of years. there is a ton to absorb when your on your own. anywho, i feel the time is steadily approaching for me to get started. i do happen to live 30 minutes from tj and was thinking about just supplying myself, then there is that whole international smuggling aspect of it. also, cost is something that i’m totally in the dark about. how much would a cycle like the above setup run, and would it be much cheaper if i go to mexico? sorry again for the hijack 
I would not mix esters. If you are going to use Test E - use Tren E.
Just my opinion.
How often will you be injecting the tren?
well, one could say that tren is a little pushing it, but he probably wants to experiment, has his whole thing lined up nice and conservative otherwise. he may need to back off his tbol a bit, but that is something that can be changed by how he feels on it. in the end it seems well laid out and he has an exit plan. if he finds the tren a bit much it can be discontinued. since the acetate ester is being used, the half-life is short for quick clearance and is left with a test/tbol cycle, still most excellent!
as for what something might run someone, it depends, do you purchase some underdosed vet crap or human grade pharmaceutical, do you get a fair price or do you leave a kidney. hard to say. the best way to compare prices is to do some searches on brands and you will probably find an online pharmacy price. consider this to be roughly market, street you can get jacked up to twice that - more if you are a real newb, and of course some people will brew their own to save in bulk. it kind of runs the gamut not unlike any activity humans do.
[quote]mazilla wrote:
sorry to hijack, do you guys think this cycle would be too aggressive for a first timer? i have been building my knowledge base on gear up over the last couple of years. there is a ton to absorb when your on your own. anywho, i feel the time is steadily approaching for me to get started. i do happen to live 30 minutes from tj and was thinking about just supplying myself, then there is that whole international smuggling aspect of it. also, cost is something that i’m totally in the dark about. how much would a cycle like the above setup run, and would it be much cheaper if i go to mexico? sorry again for the hijack
[/quote]
I don’t know about TJ prices. I don’t even know what a decent price is for buying gear. I have homebrewed all of my stuff from day one, and would not do it any other way. But that is just my opinion.
As for starting with a 2-3 drug stack - I think that is a little aggressive. I did it, but I learned the hard way that I should have listened. GO figure - me a stubborn ass…
Anyhow - for a first cycle - nothing can really beat a test only cycle. 500mg Test E/week.
Once you have experience with one compound and know what to expect - add one.
Just my 2 cents.
not being a bitch RJ, but if you haven’t caught it yet, read his post again, 75 eod for the tren, so long as he shoots the test twice per week, he should be fine, e3d better slightly, depends on how pin cushiony one feels.
[quote]ubl0 wrote:
not being a bitch RJ, but if you haven’t caught it yet, read his post again, 75 eod for the tren, so long as he shoots the test twice per week, he should be fine, e3d better slightly, depends on how pin cushiony one feels.[/quote]
Well shit - I totally missed that.
If you are going to have to shoot eod anyhow - it won’t hurt to just inject the Test E Eod as well. Mixing eod and 2X/week, or E3D injections is a bitch.
whadaya think about
test E 500mg every per week for 8 weeks(maybe 12?)
pct
nolva 40 mg ed 2 weeks, 20 mg ed 2 weeks
i’ve seen mix reaction in regard to the nolva only, but as many have said it’s fine as have said it’s bad. anybody able to clear that up for me? should pct be started in the last couple of weeks, or does the test need to clear out first? if i’m not mistaken test e has a shorter half life than than prop? thanks
[quote]rainjack wrote:
ubl0 wrote:
not being a bitch RJ, but if you haven’t caught it yet, read his post again, 75 eod for the tren, so long as he shoots the test twice per week, he should be fine, e3d better slightly, depends on how pin cushiony one feels.
Well shit - I totally missed that.
If you are going to have to shoot eod anyhow - it won’t hurt to just inject the Test E Eod as well. Mixing eod and 2X/week, or E3D injections is a bitch. [/quote]
no sweat on takin over the thread, i appreciate all the extra input from the fellas.
ok lets see what i got here
Week 1- 10 500mg Test E/W
Week 1- 5 225-300 Tren Ace E/W
Mon 250mg+Test 75mg Tren
Wed 75mg Tren
Fri 250mg+Test 75mg Tren
Sun 75mg Tren
Tue 250mg Test+75mg Tren
Thu 75mg Tren
Sat 250mg Test+75mg Tren
Repeat in this fashion for the the first 4-5 weeks as kickstart. (Possibly all 10 based upon my reaction to tren)
Then Weeks 5-10 will simple be Test pinned twice a week with the 40mg Tbol starting week 9-13.
All pct and anti e’s as originally planned.
Hows it look?
Thanks again guys-
Dezz
you’ve done your homework well dezz, it looks good. as RJ pointed out, you might want to do the test eod also instead of e4d, but that is your judgement call.
[quote]mazilla wrote:
whadaya think about
test E 500mg every per week for 8 weeks(maybe 12?)
pct
nolva 40 mg ed 2 weeks, 20 mg ed 2 weeks
i’ve seen mix reaction in regard to the nolva only, but as many have said it’s fine as have said it’s bad. anybody able to clear that up for me? should pct be started in the last couple of weeks, or does the test need to clear out first? if i’m not mistaken test e has a shorter half life than than prop? thanks
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i think you should consider an AI during the cycle. the nolva only usually is fine, you may want to try Alpha Male and a double serving of ZMA starting soon after the last inject as part of your overall pct.
test enanthate has a half life of around 5-6d vs about half that for the prop.
more important than the test clearing is making sure estrogen levels have not risen as this will prevent recovery more than elevated test levels. at that dose (500mg/week) you are looking at reaching a blood level that is about twice the high end of the normal range (perhaps up to 3 times), so long as estrogen is kept near the lower end of the physiological range, recovery is uaually quite simple in such cases (assuming you are in working order before you start).
has anybody had any experience with the products in the satchets? do u just simply stick the pin into the bag? im looking into these primarily because i have had problems with broken viles through shipping.
If I were doing stealth-like products, I would filter them into a vial after they arrive.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
I would not mix esters. If you are going to use Test E - use Tren E.
Just my opinion.
How often will you be injecting the tren? [/quote]
Very good advice.
I agree with not mixing the esthers however if you’re going to stick with the test e I’d shoot the tren acetate everyday. Tren A just messes with my mood too much if I only pin it every other day. I’d just do a small amount of test every other day in the syringe with the tren. I’d also front load the test if your not going to switch to prop. Otherwise looks good. Like the above poster I like Alpha Male for pct with nolva.