And that is all I have been saying. The profits are small in comparison to vaccines. Even Indonesia has entered as a market shareholder due to the lack of patent and its easy production. Sure even they wont sell for free. But from someone that was not a shareholder in the vaccine production, to a market shareholder to 200 milion people potentially. So you are you still saying there are no financial insentives for blocking ivermectin?
How has Ivermectin been blocked when the bloody Indonesian government has decided to produce BOTH the vaccine AND Ivermectin?
And here’s the kicker:
The fact that the Indonesian government has decided to mass produce it is making me seriously doubt the efficacy of it.
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The research and the positive news have been blocked. The majority of us probably heard about ivermectin after the podcast of Joe Rogan. It also spiked interest and now we have poor countries producing it. It is actually a great news. You may doubt ita efficacy I am happy for the potential of thousands of indonesian lives saved due to ivermectin.
Oh please. This has been circulating around Asia before that Rogan podcast. There was already a 300% increase in ivermectin raw material prices being sold to India by China lol.
You think these countries aren’t capable of conducting research? China has finally realized their vaccines are shit especially against the Delta variant and they’re now scrambling to find some way to justify including the mRNA ones in their vaccination roleout, which they will have to initially purchase from Western distributors.
Do you think they wouldn’t have been researching ivermectin before resorting to this?
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Here’s something you probably don’t know about Indonesia. Their government has long been known to be one of, if not the most, fucking CORRUPT AND STUPID ones S.E Asia.
Which is why anyone you ask around here would rather do business with China. Because the CCP is fucking CORRUPT. But they’re not STUPID.
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lol
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sinovac is still relatively effective with regards to reducing rates of severe illness/hospitalisations. But comparative to other vaccines, even non mRNA vaccines like astrazenica it isn’t as good at preventing one from catching the virus.
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And after all the fucking money and effort spent on internal propaganda against the other vaccines too.
Plus all the political goodwill from the UAE to Indonesia.
It’s fucking hilarious.
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Except that’s not what you’ve been saying. You have said that there is NO PROFIT POTENTIAL. This is a very different thing. This is not just semantics or word choice.
None in the US. Especially as ITS ALREADY BEING SOLD.
You are absolutely, positively, categorically WRONG about this.
There are over 70 clinical trials registered RIGHT NOW for ivermectin as it relates to covid.
There are many papers in both pubmed and the pre-print servers on the same topic.
NOBODY has been blocking research on this. The problem is that you don’t understand that the news isn’t as rosy as you want to believe. It makes it easier for you to have a villain.
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Welcome to 20/21. No one looking for solutions, only for villains.
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Yeah, but we do have plenty of those lol
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Yeah I already pointed out that the drug was in numerous media outlets. It wasn’t covered up at all dude. What was done was doubt was cast on it due to lack of studies done.
It’s really not that hard to get.
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It is also reasonable for people to doubt it’s efficacy. Which doesn’t mean I’m not keeping an open mind and waiting for more studies. Obviously it would be awesome to have one more treatment available, especially an extremely effective one at it’s current price.
If it actually can prevent infection with a dosage that doesn’t cause any severe side effects, you bet I’d go buy it for unvaccinated relatives straight away.
However, do most people without pets even know what ivermectin is? It is from a class of drugs used as pesticides and anti-acarid medications.
I have used it before on my cats along with selamectin, moxidectin and was recommended something with eprinomectin just a couple of months ago. Other than ivermectin, the rest are used in spot on topical treatments, with selamectin currently believed to be the safest and most effective.
Ivermectin is available as a veterinary drug both as an oral solution, which I was warned before many cause organ damage in cats, and as a topical ear medication for ear mites.
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And these villains have to be ever more powerful, more intelligent, more nefarious. The systems we live in are now complicated far beyond any single person’s expertise, yet each week there are ever more additions to the labyrinth of machinations. It’s exhausting beyond words.
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What is the Nipah virus and how is it different from COVID, explained (usatoday.com)
I thought to put word out here that there is another virus outbreak that has a much higher fatality rate than Covid-19.
We may have lucked out because it was contained early. Still, a person could have been exposed to it for over a week before developing symptoms, so it hangs ominously over us in case they haven’t isolated all possible people exposed.
(this thread came up first in a search, no interest in starting anything new)
This guy is an expert, and everything I heard him say from Day One was pretty damn spot on. I was wondering why he “disappeared”…, it was the Skynet algorithms!
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As early as April 2020, we knew that COVID primarily killed the elderly and infirm and these policies would harm the young. Didn’t take a rocket scientist to do some napkin math and realize that lost life expectancy from shutdowns and economic restrictions would exceed lost life expectancy from COVID. Doing absolutely nothing would have led to dramatically better outcomes for Americans and the country. oh well!
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Sounds a lot like life itself…
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Hello @phiroc @Marcj22. I figured to address you here because I didn’t want to derail the thread about dead bodybuilders.
I begrudgingly took the covid vaccine because it was mandatory for my employment. I am “fully vaccinated,” as they say. As you have shown in your linked articles, I have noticed an increase in suspicious deaths and health disorders that might be caused by the vaccine. Even just the other day I read an article about a recent significant increase in autism in children in New York City. Though the article didn’t mention vaccines of any sort, it made me wonder.
Because of this, in the past year, I have become skeptical of vaccines generally. From my understanding, and as mentioned in the other thread, the spike proteins have effects throughout the body and permanently alters it. I have felt fine since getting the vaccine. So have family members, co-workers and friends. So I am torn on the matter.
I have several questions on the matter that have crossed my mind. If the covid vaccine is actually dangerous (I think it carries more risk than others), are some more susceptible than others? Am I and others at risk for future consequences despite being alright now? If I have a third child, will he or she be affected? How come it’s not negatively affecting me?