Covid lockdown retrospective

Damn technology ruined snow days.

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You would think, right?

But his homework looked like this:

Ela- go sled riding.

Math- measure the time and distance from top of big hill to bottom. Use sled as ruler.

Gym- Run around in the snow.

Sci- check temperature outside by running around for at least one hour.

The teachers are hip to the system. :+1:

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The implication I apparently misread in the conversation above with @jshaving was that this should be the case, and that’s what I was replying to.

JShaving corrected my understanding of his comment, however, for conversation sake it’s not the first time I’ve heard it. Many people seem to think businesses are endless supplies of money, just sitting on hordes of freely available resources to the detriment of society for no good reason.

Cue Castoli’s entire insurance thread (not tagging him), granted there are some special caveats there. But as retarded as Castoli is in thinking in general, he’s not alone in his thoughts.

At will is the name of the game, so we agree. What was not at will, however, was being shut down and forced to make the decisions you’re mentioning, which is absolute horse shit. Maybe a tangent for another topic altogether but government should never have that much power.

How much power should the government be limited in time of an emergency? And who decides if the criteria of an emergency and when that threshold is met?

Currently, we are seeing government power at work in and around Los Angeles. Obviously, the danger of an uncontrolled wildfire has much clearer lines than a virus. All men are consumed by fire and a virus only affects a percentage of the population.

If somebody wants to open up their business in the middle of a massive fire, and somebody else wants to be their patron, I don’t believe govt should be allowed to stop them.

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Then they call the fire department to rescue them.

The answer should be, the government has as much power as necessary to deal with a particular issue.

How that answer plays out in reality is, what’s necessary depends on who benefits.

Was it necessary to invade Iraq? Well yeah, if you were going to profit off of it.

In my experience during massive hurricanes on the gulf coast, emergency services flat out tell you if you don’t evacuate then you’re on your own. And I’m fine with that.

At will.

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And if they have kids? It’s easy to say at will but it’s another to tell emergency workers to just stand by while a family gets wiped out. There is paper, then there is reality.

I don’t think you read what I typed.

Ugh! Not just math skills, even things like speaking/language suffered. It’s good to hear that you were able to work with the therapist.

It’s also nice to hear another home school success story. Like a relief that with some effort it can be more effective that regular school.

Mom really wants to home school our daughter, I just worry about messing her up.

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I get what you’re saying. Of course an emergency worker can refuse to help when people have been told to not expect it. But again, is that how things will play out? Also, should a parent have the right to ignore warnings and put their kids at extreme risk? Legally, they cannot. Whether you or I like it, there is a large number of morons out there and the government has to protect them from themselves. The government has to protect us from them.

It is how it plays out, during hurricanes. Lots of volunteers usually show up, at will. Which is key.

We live in a risky world. While I don’t personally agree with the notion, I would err on the side of personal and parental choice over govt oversight here. 100%.

Unfortunately the govt does have too much power to dictate decisions in personal lives.

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As someone who tried to teach during lockdowns, remote learning and teaching are in general less effective than in person. The kids who did well were the kids who did well in person and had parents who were heavily involved. The kids who did poorly were typically the ones who did poorly in person as well. What remote learning brought to light was just how little kids are learning. Remote learning made a bad problem worse. Things weren’t going great prior to Covid.

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I think we generally agree on the situation but may differ on how to deal with it. Personally, I would prefer things to be how you see them but because of my work experience, I see a lot of addicts, criminals, idiots, mentally ill, uneducated, mentally handicapped, etc. Society has to somehow work with these people existing within it. Consider yourself fortunate for living somewhere that can give people more freedom than they might have somewhere else because you don’t have to worry as much about the worst members of society.

I believe in the 2nd Amendment and live somewhere that is very restrictive with regards to gun ownership. Someone wants to gift me an AR 15 but you can’t even keep one inside your home legally. With that said, if it were easy to purchase guns here, it would be the wild west in the cities and it would probably spill over to the suburbs. I don’t know if I have a point other than the good people always pay for the bad people. It’s as if the last thing people can be trusted with is freedom.

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It’s definitely viable. Finding a way to keep socializing possible is crucial. Team sports and such.

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One area where we disagree is believing that society must work with and especially care for these people via govt.

Not to be confused with private charity, at will.

Punish the criminals. Don’t penalize society at large.

Shit is going to happen. This is life.

Yup. Just experienced this.

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I live in a conservative state that was one of the most outspoken about not shutting down. I got laid off from 3 jobs when COVID hit, and all schools and many business closed. Conservatives didn’t really react much differently than ā€œlibtards,ā€ other than later putting up more of a fight against vaccines.

If we jail them, we are caring for them. If we do nothing, they harm society even more, and we look like a third world nation.

Yes, but criminal implies victim. Would you prefer to be the victim of a crime and have the criminal punished (which relies on the government) or not be a victim in the first place? I get what you’re saying but it’s not that simple.