Covid in Australia

I don’t think the constitution can save us, either. It’s merely a speed bump that the left is happy to drive over. Biden extended the eviction moratorium, illegally. The SCOTUS ruled the mandate unconstitutional, Biden even mentioned that. But in an effort to be popular with the far left, he reinstituted it and said ‘sue me’. Well people are, but it takes time and money. Many governors had their covid edicts shot down in court. So the let the old one expire and just set new ones in place and said ‘sue me’. The judicial branch cannot act without a case. So until somebody does sue them, they get away with it.
The constitution doesn’t mean much if you just piss on it and ignore it.
And the longer they extend the eviction moratorium, the worse the forth comming crisis is going to be. There are many layers to that, but its just too long to get into fully.
The point is, the constitution isn’t going to mean much if they ignore it and do what they want. It costs money to fight and the people with the most money are on the government’s side. So we are falling like a meteor. Just like yall. We are about a year behind you is what I figure. I would like nothing better than to be wrong. I really, really hope I am wrong and people here fight back.

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Don’t really want to argue with you on this… but Biden isn’t far left… far, far from it

Far left is like… Certain factions within the greens party in Aus, the democratic socialist faction of labor (particularly the youth wing) here (mainstream Labour is centre left to centre right). Authoritarianism in Aus has been embraced by the left and right.

You can cherry pick a Biden mediated autocratic policy, but Joe Biden isn’t authoritarian… not by a long shot. An autocratic US president would be like… John Adams in the late 1700’s, he criminalised criticism of the POTUS, Woodrow Wilson… Andrew Jackson, in my opinion Donald Trump was also quite an authoritarian president, though his level of autocracy can’t compare to politicians within the US or the examples specified above

To be fair, you didn’t think they would do what they have already done… So whats to stop them. They building friggin covid gulags for covid violators for crying out loud. Sure they call them something pretty, but it’s a camp where they put people by force into them.
Just do me one favor, if someone from the government comes to you and tells you to get in a car, bus, plane, or train to take you somewhere, don’t get in. The nazi’s didn’t tell the jews that they were taking them to concentration camps, they told them they were taking them to get typhoid inoculations. That’s why people just got in. Well, we have the historical precedent, don’t go. Don’t get on board. Just don’t. You don’t know what they are capable of. Clearly a lot worse than you ever dreamed. These guys aren’t here to do you any favors and I promise you, they don’t give the slightest fuck about your health. Defy.
Yall need to organize and protest and fight. I know your one guy, but you are in a crisis, it’s time to act. They cannot arrest everybody.

… unfortunately it would appear they can arrest a sizeable portion
we’d need mass civil disobedience to spark change

People have been arrested over social media posts… and the public supports it

I’m not going to protest here, I’m going to leave. Not worth ruining my life over a country, a cultural paradigm that I hardly respect to begin with. Rather I have a plan to leave, I’m sticking to said plan and i’m going to get out. It could be much worse, I’m not in China, North Korea, the democratic republic of the Congo, turkemistan etc… but I certainly don’t want to be here either.

In fairness, you are dealing with your own problems so you probably haven’t been paying much attention to the U.S. Everything is in crisis here. We have food shortages, fuel shortages, rolling black and brown outs, we have racial segregation coming back in a big way. For instance, in that idiotic stimulus package, the ‘people’ got less than 20% of that money. And the farm package was for black and ‘brown’ farmers. White farmers were excluded, but race. Not a lie, look it up. The rest went for ‘equity’ programs, critical race, gender, and other woke programing. I could go on and on. He may fool you with his words, but his actions are very far left. The poor are getting poorer and the rich far far richer. Our government is run by Alphabet, facebook, twitter, Amazon and Apple. Full merger of corporation and state. Another example, the Biden admin has asked cell phone carriers to monitor personal text messages to block and flag “covid misinformation”. If that doesn’t sound like ‘1984’, Animal Farm, ‘Brave New World’, etc. I don’t know what does.

We are going through what is called ‘The great reset’. It’s actually a world wide phenomenon. With cooperation from governments like China and the U.S. oligarchs are trying to ‘rest’ the way economy works. “You will own nothing and you will be happy” The plan is to buy up all property and distribute according to ‘social credit’. What’s that mean? Think of the ‘Hunger Games’, the Capital vs. every where else. Don’t look at what they say, look at what they do. Again, there is much more to it than that. That’s why I am not encouraging you to come here. We are not far behind, look at what we do, not what we say.

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We censor Covid misinformation, going as far as to imprison or arrest those who spread information that is either factually incorrect or info the government doesn’t like, we don’t allot platforms for alternative viewpoints, we arrest protestors, we conduct drone surveillance, have hidden cameras inn the streets looking for people who aren’t wearing masks.

Sydney has police/millitary patrol, people are told not to speak to their neighbours, people in grocery stores etc. You can’t even exercise outside with people anymore and there are strict caps on time/radius by which you are allowed to exercise. Can’t travel more than 3 miles from home aside from 4 essential reasons… We have a curfew

This is just the beginning, there’s far more too it

And the public is on board with this

THIS is Orwellian, not what you’ve described.

Your citizens wanted it this way. The UK started becoming “woke” way back in the 70s. I’m using the term “woke” in regards to press freedom, homosexuality, anti-war, censorship etc. That was what “woke” was during that era.

Singapore is also a Commonwealth country. From every single China citizen I’ve spoken to who’s been there, their impression is that Singaporeans are more afraid of their government than China citizens are of the CCP.

Which country isn’t going through economic shit right now lol? Trump was trumpeting a V shaped recovery when anyone with half a brain knew it was OBVIOUSLY going to be a K shaped one. Even Biden, of all people, stated this. (I have very fucking severe gripes with Biden but I’m not dissing him while he’s president just like I didn’t diss Trump until after he lost the election.).

Shit, I even wrote a lengthy post about how wrong this was about a year ago and stated how I was increasingly involving more tech in my business in preparation for this while encouraging others in similar positions to do so. You all bought the bullshit when all this stuff happening now shouldn’t be surprising at all. I doubt it would be any different if Trump were still in office. This shit was all inevitable. Fuck, I’m still encouraging younger guys to pick up code whenever it’s relevant. Not enough people today have the required skills to create enough competition for these corporations. The best and brightest are already recruited by them with the promise of ridiculously high salaries and perks. Where I live, there aren’t enough people with such skills or at least proficient enough to apply these skills so companies have to import them from INDIA. I use mostly remote workers from Europe and have had my bloody sleep patterns all fucked up during some projects that require lots of communication because of the timezone differences.

And speaking of the CCP: They did NOT give their citizens ANY form of handouts during their lockdowns. ZERO. Instead, people were donating money to frontline workers from out of their own pockets due to a sense of civic responsibility, not because of any form of coercion.

Nice little five minute clip. I will just leave here.

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Daniel Andrews appears to be pulling out of opening up at 80%… Shocker

I hate this man with a fiery passion. He seriously deserves to be locked up at this point.

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Police in Sydney. Sydney Police Dictatorship - Sydney, Australia (bitchute.com)

Disturbing new federal legislation passed. Australian Identify & Disrupt Bill 2021 – While we were Distracted (bitchute.com)

I’ve been bitching about the identify and disrupt bill for months

So they censor Covid ‘misinformation’? And what is, and who determines it’s misinformation. Is providing data from the CDC or WHO misinformation? Our tech oligarchs here have censored people for quoting those organizations. And if quoting information from those who the oligarchs have said were reliable is ‘misinformation’ I can only imagine what the Aussie government decides it is. I really am sad to see the country go. When I visited, I truly loved the place. Heck, in Sydney we met up with a group of youth, who were our age, who didn’t know us at all and they welcomed us and just took it upon themselves to show us around and take us partying. They showed us the local hotspots and were awesome to us. Now it’s more like China than the U.S. or Britain. Like I said, when you find a place to go, fill me in. I may consider joining you. Here, I get the sense their going to finish the wall, but to keep us in, not keep others out.
I wasn’t describing Orwellian dystopia? Did you read those books?

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It depends… Let’s say you provide academic literature from a peer reviewed medical journal, but that data states curfews and 5km radiuses don’t make much of a difference. Post that and it might get taken down

No mainstream media platform would give you a voice to speak either. I hate Sky News, but they did call out some of the BS occuring which resulted from my knowledge in them getting dropped from various service providers.

Media censorship is actually legal here and has been for some time… But this was usually enacted to stifle extremist regimes from promoting recruitment content.

No… Isis shouldn’t be able to own social media accounts promoting extremist content in attempt to recruit people.

But now the laws have been taken out of context, used to enforce a narrative that has transformed Aus into a bio police state. Last year I spoke with you regarding the case of draconian nanny statitis Aus had. A form of near soft autocracy if you will.

That’s nothing compared to how fast we’ve downhill over the past year. It appears premier’s will keep going if the population doesn’t showcase much resistance. As a matter of fact the population seems to support this… If the federal PM Stops finding jobkeeper, the lazy Australians can no longer receive financial compensation I assume the tide will turn

Unfortunately due to Scotty’s low approval rating I can’t see him having the guts to do this.

The public has been fed a stream of hyperbolic drivel and biased narratives to instill complacency within an already subservient, obedient population.

The CDC isn’t “lying to you” btw. The academic literature available the second vaccines came out was indicative herd immunity might not be possible. As soon as delta came around all published literature inferred vaccines were 50-70% effective at preventing symptomatic infection, 90-95% effective at reducing the chance of hospitalisation and death

I use CDC statistics to drive my point home quite frequently both online and in person. One of the most common fallacies I’m fed is “this is delta, it mows down young people”. To which I respond by providing CDC/state data from the US, epidemiological data from the UK pertaining to the hospitalisation rate in kids (generally between 0.2-0.8%), the death rate is generally around 0.001%…

There’s also academic literature showcasing the true incidence of PROPER long covid in children is between 0-2% when followed up.

We have had zero teenagers die in Aus from covid… Not even sure if we’ve had a single kid in ICU here from covid.

The only variable people here seem to gauge is covid deaths. We’ve had slightly over one thousand deaths from covid, the median age being 86… Let me put this in perspective. Flu + pneumonia (particularly the latter) kills around 4000 Australians per year… Cancer kills 50,000, alcohol 6,000, tobacco 25,000… around 4,000 Aussies die weekly. Yet martial law is in place…

Now we have 350 kids/teenagers showing up to emergency departments per week following suicide attempts or serious self harm… Psychiatric inpatient facilities are booked up for months in advance. Diagnostic procedures have been shut off and more … For the most part entirely preventable issues

I forget the exact metric but this year the level of preventable deaths imposed by these lockdowns has far exceeded the 1,000 covid deaths this country has seen… And those meeting premature deaths for the most part are far younger than the average covid patient who dies.

Had we let it rip, obviously the covid death toll would have been higher… But not quite so as of this exact moment… Letting it rip now would probably lead to around 10,000 deaths. Locking down til the end of the year… It’s around 20-30 preventable deaths per day, that’s not even accounting for the times wherein the entire country goes into lockdown . In total it’ll probably amount to around 7,000 preventable deaths, albeit within a far younger cohort.

I forgot the exact statistic available through preliminary data. From what I recall, the number of preventable deaths mediated by lockdowns

But the things I’ve had said to me for making these arguments, stating martial law is troublesome… Both in person and online

I’ll go from mildest to worst

I’ve been called smooth brain, boomer, moron, fuckwit, a pathetic excuse for a human being, a psychopath… I’ve been told to kill myself… Actually I’m not going to get into the bad comments… They’re just so disgusting.

This country is toxic from the inside out at this point.

Good post. The only outlet criticizing the ridiculous narco-tyranny coming out of Australia is Sky News, that I can see. Every other media site has both feet in and repeat the absolutely asinine propaganda being spit out by the neo-marxist government of yours. I do remember telling you last year, yall were on the way to tyranny. I realize you are young. I really do feel bad for your country, but we have our own problems because we are headed in the same direction.
While everybody was looking at Afghanistan, Biden signed executive order banning certain common calibers of ammunition. Gun control should not even be whispered about in the current environment but here we are.
And we can see by Australia’s example what happens when they disarm the populace. So right now, we have to be dogged determined to fight for that right, or the rest are gone. You all have my best wishes and for crying out loud, find some like minded people and fight back. Name calling and deathwishes are proof you are on to something and hitting a nerve. Stomp on that nerve.

I hear Easter Island is kind of nice. Maybe Aruba. If I have to leave, I want to go to a nice place…

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Problem is, sky News hosts a lot of BS too. They’re considered a joke here

If they let up on the biased nonesense they produce her stuck with the FACTS pertaining to mortality rates by demographics, epidemiological modelling, validity behind restrictions like curfews (no data too suggest etc) they could mediate quite an uproar

Sky News was actually punished for pushing misinformation pertaining to covid. Granted there was a bit of outdated info they were pushing, but otherwise they were getting dropped by various platforms for stating “this isn’t justified”

They’re an incredibly biased source… They shit all over the labour premiers and put liberal premier’s up on a pedestal. Then Gladys Berijiklian, arguably the most authoritarian premier in the country locked down HARD, brought in the millitary, curfews, 5-10,000$ fines for shit like not wearing a mask… They were silent

But in the weeks prior had specified “Australia needs five Gladys Berijiklian to manage this without undue restrictions!” Gladys is right wing… See what I’m getting at?

Conservative here isn’t akin to what it is in the USA. Both the left and right wing spectrums have autocratic elements and libertarian elements… It’s a fluid construct. However many Republicans when you take out abortion and whatnot advocate HEAVILY for the upheaval of civil liberties. In Australia both the left/right spectrums are typically fiercely autocratic in nature.

As a population we love having the government solve our problems for us. Very lazy, apathetic and subservient population that blindly abides by advice doled out by cherry picked experts. If I gave you my Reddit account (email me if interested) you can look at the arguments I have regarding coronavirus on various Australian threads. I’m almost universally hated… The abuse I sometimes cop is insane

This correlates over to the real world too. People are NOT nice about alternative viewpoints here. It wasn’t always this way, though over the past five years as we’ve headed towards autocratic rule… Particularly the last two years the population has become increasingly intolerant towards alternative viewpoints that situate outside of the norm.

The majority seem to believe protestors ought to be locked up, they support police violence against protestors… They say it’s not autocracy, rather it’s a global pandemic… How could we be so stupid and say this isn’t acceptable when bodies are dropping in the streets in virtually every country that isn’t Australia? Didn’t you know we are the envy of the world? The level of systemic indoctrination is ridiculous.

I can’t say exactly specify who I know, who thinks what… But no, this authoritarian, restrictive approach is no longer supported by quite a large majority of medical professionals. If the Australian population wishes to virtue signal and attack everyone who disagrees with the few experts cherry picked to produce a steady stream of fear porn… Perhaps they need to actually speak to epidemiologists, MD’s involved in fields that encompass vaccine innovations, infectious diseases etc. There’s a very broad spectrum regarding the ideology harboured, very few seem to be on board with martial law… Particularly the doctors who work with mental health (psychiatrists and whatnot) some seem particularly irritated as the level of depressed, suicidal and drug addicted kids have skyrocketed to unprecedented rates.

Why am I copping abuse? Because I voice an opinion that goes against what the government panders to here… Which is lock down until there is ZERO cases in the community… Martial law over a single case etc. There is preliminary data available showcasing the issues being induced. Economic dysregulation, mental illness skyrocketing (and you’ll notice online everyone is bitter, irritable and on edge), rates of drug addiction shooting up (literally #punny), people prematurely dying from cancer etc as diagnostic procedures are being held off even when very little to no covid is in the community etc.

Yes… I rant… Yes… I’m pissed off, but I have good right to be. I live in a society that doesn’t just accept this, they support it. We love pandering towards virtuosity, aUsTrALia iS bEtTer because we don’t let people die … except for suicide, cancer, type 2 diabetes, dementia, heart disease, drug addiction and more. Unbelievable as to just how much of a wanker so many appear to have become over this.

There’s no empathy, no thought as to what others might be going through, particularly kids who have no idea what it’s like to live away from/not be dependent on mommy and daddy as the average kid here doesn’t move out until they’re in their late 20s.

Australians used to have a reputation as… Well… Think Crocodile Dundee, Steeve Irwin. Now? We are going to have a reputation as “those pussies who accepted and advocated for the development of a police state”. Plenty of these (particularly kids) irritatingly woke individuals will be in for a shock when/if they’re ever allowed overseas again. Perhaps it’ll provide much needed perspective.

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It’s difficult, you need the qualifications/to meet the point criteria required to be granted citizenship.

You live in the US, even under Biden who you may perceive to be more autocratic relative to various other US presidential candidate (he isn’t … he probably can’t even describe what authoritarian means :joy:) the US grants far more civil liberties to the avg individual relative to the vast majority ofcl countries overseas. The only other countries that allow unlicensed (or very easy access) to firearm possession to my knowledge are Canada, Greenland, various lawless middle eastern countries and a few EU regions like Bulgaria

What more could you want? You aren’t going to find many places that grant more civil liberties relative to the USA. Some countries don’t lock people up for drug possession, generally policy like this is indicative a country respects individualstic rights pertaining to bodily autonomy…

Do you wish to move under economic rationale etc, perhaps you wish to invest in property within a region that is still developing yet appears to be on an upward trajectory?

I don’t know why you wish to leave, I don’t know how old you are, what qualifications you have, what profession you work in etc

Here’s the deal… Many countries grant entry pertaining to a point system. Where do you work, what level of education have you acquired, do you speak the countries native language etc. Stack up enough points and you’re in … Otherwise a work visa for a job can allow you to live for a number of years, after a certain point in SOME countries a permenant residency/citizenship can be applied for if cumulative residency passes a certain threshold.

The loophole in the EU/perhaps some other countries is to apply for a tourist visa… Stay in a given country for 90 days, go back… Re apply for said visa… Rince and repeat until you’ve been in said country for 3-5 years (or more/less) wherein you can apply for a permenant residency and eventually a citizenship.

Having ancestry within a certain country can sometimes grant you entry on an ancestryship visa or equivalent. If you’re Jewish, you can acquire an Isreali citizenship.

You can’t afford to be picky if you’re looking to get out… or maybe you can if you’ve got a lot of money. Send me an email if you’d like to know more about living to another country… As I’ve done it more than once lol

There’s another option… A sham marriage, though unless you’re trying to escape a warzone I find this unethical.

You speak of how the US is authoritarian… You’re aware Australians can’t even leave the country, and Australians overseas can’t come back in right? I know these dick measuring contests aren’t particularly healthy but… Leaving Aus, even if you travel to the only bubble country (now cancelled) NZ… If you go from Aus → NZ → overseas → back to NZ to quarantine → back to Aus to quarantine again the penalty is… Drum roll… Five years in prison and a 50,000$+ fine

And believe it or not there are countries way worse than Aus. We are like Singapore without the death penalty. But you’ve got countries like China, North Korea, Laos, democratic republic of the Congo etc… Far worse

Is it possible Aus ends up like China? Yes… very much so; population is far too obedient. Unless mass civil disobedience starts to become the norm I think it’s very possible for us to go down the route of total autocracy… actually we are already there with premiers suspending parliament and whatnot.

I don’t think we will get much worse relative to what we are now. The mass surveillance will continue to ramp up… Perhaps we end up in between Singapore and China in that akin to China you CAN get away with shit like say… Smoking pot if you’re careful about it which is a huge nono in Singapore, but the mass surveillance will become more and more intrusive, speaking out against the government will continue to result in penalization.

In Aus you aren’t going to disappear for criticising politicians in power unless you’re a whistleblower. You might cop a fine, you might go to jail, but our government won’t murder you.

I don’t want a twenty year prison sentence. I don’t respect what this country has become and I don’t respect the culture here either.

Would rather leave as opposed to taking on the impenetrable fortress that is the government here

Banning certain calibres of ammunition… Oh the travesty!!!

I know from Aussie trajectory this kind of shit is a slippery slope

But remember, we didn’t slowly phase guns out… One day politicians just decided to ban them and people were too apathetic to do anything about it. US culture differs, so disarming the population would be a very slow process of which I still don’t think would be able to occur without significant backlash.

In my state owning a sword, owning a switchblade, pepper spray… Carrying any kind of item in public meant to be used for self defence can result in a prison sentence. You guys are VERY far away from becoming Australia.

Australia has produced a lot of bad motherfuckers over the years. Where are they now?