Covid in Australia

Yes… Moreso greens. Labour now has an anti Isreal slant, greens tends to harbour anti Isreali/pro Palestinian policies that can easily be inferred as being anti Semitic.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/greens-leader-adam-bandt-called-to-drop-julian-burnside-over-antisemitic-tweet/news-story/3c0a71ce9202f3c72dbaf553e5f8324a

Greens don’t officially support BDS, but many members within the party do. Look up the BDS movement and tell me it isn’t a movement with the sole intention to delegitimise and criticise Isreal whilst simultaneously advocating for political violence.

I’d think the majority who support this movement in particular probably harbour a degree of anti-Semitic rhetoric.

If one is to use the far left lens of race to view all sociocultural conflicts. Isreal = bad because they’re white and middle class. Palestinians are good because they’re brown and poor.

Except… Isreali’s are also brown, sorry to break that stupid narrative. Ethiopian Jews are black… Which leaves me to think the problem they have is the Jews, not the flawed concept of looking at everything through a racial lense so everything they look at has that same tint regardless of whether the issue at hand has anything to do with racial inequality.

You’re a submarine!

Oooooooooo, shots fired!!!

#unreal24278isbored

That is not exactly how they think. Israel = bad because they are winners and Palestinians = good because they are victims (the losers).

Think about the Spanish conquistadors vs the Aztecs (also an empire). The Aztecs are the good guys because they lost. The narrative has to always be good vs evil. It can’t be that two empires built on violence and conquest came into contact and one lost and one won, that’s life in the empire game. It’s why the wokesters, because they lack education in spite of having college degrees, don’t talk about how there were other indigenous peoples who allied themselves with the Spanish because they weren’t fond of the Aztecs. Maybe it was all of the human sacrifice and slavery. But losing to the Spanish makes all of that bad stuff disappear.

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Well, yeah…but the Spanish were also white. I’d say you and @unreal24278 are both basically correct.

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I believe they see that the winners are always white and the losers are so-called POCs, whether true or not (it isn’t), and base their opinion on white people on that. Actual history doesn’t mean anything. So in America, white people get called, among other things, colonizers, even though most white Americans are probably descended from immigrants, some of whom weren’t even considered white when they arrived here. And they arrived here after slavery was over. But it’s so much simpler to make things black and white or, to be exact, non-white and white.

I read the link but only found a brief mention, with no details or specifics. Any links with the actual interview?

Newsflash from the Communist Republic formerly known as Queensland. Question the official narrative, they seize your legally owned, registered firearms, because you are now no longer a fit and proper person to own them, despite breaking no law.

QLD Police come to confiscate this activists firearms. (bitchute.com)

You know the peoples revolution is anti-vax? This pandemic isn’t a set-up either… it’s very real… but they still have a point there and here regarding the gun laws. The pandemic legislature is out of proportion to the risk, the gun laws here are draconian and at this point downright oppressive (imo)… but the people’s revolution is also associated with (in my opinion) headspinningly idiotic anti vax narrative.

@idaho would probably be intrigued to see this… welcome to Australia: autocratic, totalitarian police state! Albeit a democratic one as you can vote other autocratic governments into power

btw @Beyond_Beyond you’re aware bit chute is known for hosing far right conspiracy videos, hate speech etc. It hosts other content too, but it has a reputation for being associated with this kind of content, try linking another source if you want to prove a point to people.

I buy what you’re getting at, other won’t due to the “guilty by association” narrative.

Like just from looking quickly I see the website has a TON of anti-vax material, covid misinformation, conspiracy videos and the likes.

This is true.

I’ve also long suspected its because Israel is viewed as an extension of America/the West.

Just another reason why so may socialists/anti-capitalist/anti west types hate the state.

But I do think nestled in-between some of their genetic code are few sequences of nucleotide base pairs that code for genes that when expressed manifest as ant-semitic temperament. I mean the hatred is just so long standing and pervasive.

There is garbage on there just as much as there is garbage on youtube.

But you don’t stop watching youtube do you? Use your head and come to your own conclusions. Which I know you do.

Because for better or worse. Unlike youtube. There is no censorship to my knowledge. Or limited censorship at that.

I’m sure you will get anti vaxers, every area . This guy maybe? I can’t recall him being specifically against vaccinations.
What do you call an anti vaxer… A)someone who is against all vaccinations, B) Someone who is against taking a particular vaccine, that is yet unproven to be safe and effective? Its not like the polio, MMR, or any common, proven and established vaccine, with decades of evidence of almost total effectiveness. Is the covid vaccine even actually a vaccine?

I mean you can believe what you want either way. Apparently the covid vaccines don’t stop you from getting covid, it doesn’t stop you from passing it on to others, you still need to wear a mask and social distance… Yet its supposed to be the only thing that will save us all from a disease no more deadly than the common cold. You must get it because BB tells you to. Don’t question!

Yes, Its exactly the same as Youtube was before the Masters started to censor free speech.
Hate speech is just plain old censorship unless its a direct call to incite violence. The overwhelming majority isn’t.
Free speech allows the individual to make up their own mind on an issue, rather than being forced into what to believe. If an idea has no currency, then its consigned to being useless on its lack of merits. What does anyone have to fear from the truth…nothing, unless you are trying to hide it to manipulate.the population.

It also has most of the people that are allowed to post on Youtube as well. Misinformation… if someone has enough basic intelligence to assess an argument on its merits they can work out themselves if its actually is misinformation, dogma, or logical.
I understand not all people are capable, or even want to be bothered, that’s their choice or lot in life, but its not mine.

Covid vaccines have finished phase I,II and III clinical trials. We also have postmarketing reports pertaining to the prevalence of SAE’s, we know the mechanisms by which ultra rare side effects that occur associated with these vaccines stem from.

AZ is a chimpanzee adenovirus-vectored vaccine. Astrazenica took a virus that infects chimpanzees (but not humans) and modified to carry a portion of the Covid-19 spike protein. Upon delivery it triggers an immune response against the protein, thus producing antibodies and memory cells that can recognise and neutralise coronavirus

Adenovirus vectored vaccines prior to covid vaccines hadn’t been approved for human use but have been/are in development for other viruses like HIV/ebola and whatnot. It’s hardly “new technology”.

With Pfizer/Moderna the mechanism of action differs. Unlike contemporary vaccines, the shot is NOT a weakened version of a virus that causes the body to create antibodies. The shot is mRNA, RNA that instructs the body to create antibodies against covid-19… And no, Pfizer/Moderna doesn’t alter pre-existing data. The claims of the shot altering DNA to predispose one to cancer and whatnot is bullshit

It’s good to think critically and question things, but if you’re going to question something make sure you’re fully up to date with the source material you question as to not become enveloped within a false/non factual narrative.

The end result elicited with covid vaccines is literally the same thing other vaccines do… Create antibodies…

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Most Australian’s are not capable of this. Most
Australian’s can’t even think for themselves. They complacently adhere to the status quo and attack anyone who deviates from it by harbouring an alternative opinion. We’ve become increasingly intolerant towards alternate viewpoints… Remember back in the day when it was okay to be pro gun or anti gun… Or somewhere in between?

Go to a university now and say “I think law abiding, mentally stable (not me lol #cripplingdepressionthatextremelockdownsdonthelp) citizens should be allowed to own rifles in their own home…” You’re obviously a Nazi for thinking that! Welcome to Australia 2021 :slight_smile:

I don’t watch a lot of YouTube. Most of it is garbage nowdays.

There are still a few good/amusing channels. TiKtOk is where it’s at

She should get her lipids checked… Sarms DESTROY lipids

You should check this girls profile out, can’t tell if she’s just really impatient and naive (hence using SARMS after only working out for a couple of months) or if she’s self aware and trying to irritate people.

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Why would anyone be irritated? It’s not like you have to live with her and you don’t have to watch her videos. Who really gives a shit if she gets hit by a truck or eaten by a polar bear. She may as well not even exist as far as her relevance in anyone’s life.

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That would depend on the size and quantity of the polar bears. 100 swan-sized ones. I’m in.

Victoria lockdown extended… NSW lockdown likely to be extended. Gladys is facing immense backlash for trying to loosen restrictions before they hit zero cases… Because 8 weeks of lockdown hasn’t worked, another 20 ought to work right?

Parts of QLD in lockdown

Saw media narratives this morning stating elimination post vaccination is what we should be aiming for… Looks like NZ is also aiming for elimination

80% quota for removing outbound travel restrictions for vaccinated tourists has now been changed to "travel to safe countries’'…

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Maybe the open air prison rhetoric isn’t so far off.

What makes a country safe? Will tourists / immigrants be allowed into the country?

This isn’t even on the roadmap. To my knowledge there is no plan for this within the near future

The definition of “safe” will probably be something absurd like less than 5 covid cases per million inhabitants or something

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Here is some food for thought. I looked at the numbers today.

80 % vaxxed rate in australia = 40 million doses given.

Currently have given 14.2 million doses.

Leaves 26.3 million doses left to give to reach 80 %.

In last 24 hours they have given 90 k doses. Provided they can maintain that rate and there are no issues with supply it will take 288 days to reach that goal.

Actually in the last 24 hours they have given 255 k doses
https://twitter.com/healthgovau/status/1425328636857659394/photo/1

They’re doing it much faster than I thought they were. NSW in particular… if current trends maintain their trajectory NSW will have 60% given 1 dose in 17 days, 80% given one dose in 44 days. Glady’s strategy is to mass vaccinate ASAP… she’s getting a lot of backlash for going against the grain of the Covid Zero narrative… But if she actually manages to say… get 90% of the population to take one shot by late September then NSW might actually be one of the first states to exit constant lockdowns, they’ll have cases but there’s the possibility hospitalisations and deaths would be nil to nine akin to Iceland. In which case, there would probably be a HUGE backlash against premiers like Mark McGowan, Daniel Andrews etc.

Something along the lines of “NSW is free, you’re still locking us down over single digit case numbers”. Tremendous political pressure would develop for various premiers to change their narratives. At the same time flip flopping stances would likely lead to voter distrust. I still think Daniel Andrews, Mark McGowan will be voted back in, but it’ll be far more of a nailbiter for Vic relative to the recent landslides.

My worry is we meet the vaccination quota and this amounts

With that being said, apparently Melbourne had more protests today. If Vic stay’s shut I imagine these protests will increase in size and scale, civil unrest may eventually develop etc.

It is SAID that we might reach 300,000 to 400,000 does per day come October

Worst case scenario, we end up like NZ who today came out and said they’re aiming for long term elimination, in which case I pack my bags, leave come early next year and never come back. Best case scenario, we end up like Iceland, fully open and highly vaccinated with nearly no deaths/hospitalisations… In which case I still pack my bags next year, leave for a bit and then decide whether I wish to come back. I have a means of access to citizenship within another country that isn’t Isreal.

It looks like I’ll be voting conservative this election (@twojarslave you can be happy)… The labor left (two factions of the labour, labour right and labour left) seems to be advocating for long term elimination. Our mainstream right wing parties may advocate for authoritarian, punitive policies… but our left wing major party isn’t any better and they wish to keep Australia shut, enforcing the protectionist, isolationist narrative currently omnipresent within Aus

Not voting for Scotty, but not voting for Albanese. Liberal democrats will probs be my first choice, followed by (sigh) Scott Morrison. I don’t like him, he’s TERRBILE for climate action, he’s been footing mass surveillance bills thorough parliament. On the other hand, he probably won’t destroy the economy and Albanese despite being better for the environment he’d be no less authoritarian regarding his presidential tactics

My best hope is for various minor parties (reason party etc) to acquire enough of a foothold within state and federal governments as to pressure labour/liberal to ditch the nanny state, autocratic hysteria… which probably won’t happen, hence my plan to continually save up and leave

Historically we have been very good with vaccinations. Before covid more than 75% of those 65+ would generally take the flu shot. I also took it every year (still caught the flu once and got suuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppppeeeeeeeeer sick though).

I wonder what percentage of Australians will refuse any vaccination?

I’m thinking it could be close to 30%. Maybe even closer to 40%?

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